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http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2004/11/10_400.html

Best thing I've read in a long time.

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Staff Sergeant Jimmy Massey may be the most unlikely of the soldiers who have come out against the war. A Marine since 1992, he has been a recruiter, infantry instructor, and combat platoon leader. He went to Iraq primed to fight. “9/11 pissed me off,” he says. “I was ready to go kill a raghead.”

Jimmy Massey went to Iraq a gung-ho Marine, but returned shaken after killing civilians.

Shortly after Massey arrived in Iraq, his unit was ordered to man roadblocks. To stop cars, the Marines would raise their hands. If the drivers kept going, Massey says, “we would just light ’em up. I didn’t find out until later on, after talking to an Iraqi, that when you put your hand up in the air, it means ‘Hello.’” He estimates that his men killed 30 civilians in one 48-hour period.

One day, he recalls, “there was this red Kia Spectra. We told it to stop, and it didn’t. There were four occupants. We fatally wounded three of them. We started pulling out the bodies, but they were dying pretty fast. The guy that was driving was just frickin’ bawling, sitting on the highway. He looked at me and asked, ‘Why did you kill my brother? He wasn’t a terrorist. He didn’t do anything to you.’”

Massey searched the car. “It was completely clean. Nothing there. Meanwhile the driver just ran around saying, ‘Why? Why?’ That’s when I started to question.”

The doubts led to nightmares, depression, and a talk with his commanding officer. “I feel what we are doing here is wrong. We are committing genocide,” Massey told him. He was later diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and given a medical discharge.
 

ManaByte

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"My definition of a patriot is anyone who defends the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. "
 

AeroGod

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ManaByte said:
"My definition of a patriot is anyone who defends the Constitution against drivers of red Kia Spectras "

I wouldnt go about turning this into another Bash Bush thread, but its a dumb approach either way. I think the AMERICAN FUCKING MILITARY would have a better road block system then "if passes by without clearance empty 100 rounds into it..preferably the passanger cabin and not the wheels."
 

ManaByte

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AeroGod said:
I wouldnt go about turning this into another Bash Bush thread, but its a dumb approach either way. I think the AMERICAN FUCKING MILITARY would have a better road block system then "if passes by without clearance empty 100 rounds into it..preferably the passanger cabin and not the wheels."

After so many truck/car bombs, they can't take any chances.
 

Mandark

Small balls, big fun!
ManaByte said:
"My definition of a patriot is anyone who defends the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. "
Say, who are you voting for? You've made some very tentative noises that sound pro-Bush, but with all the bogus lawsuits you've threatened, you can't possibly support tort reform.
 

Brannon

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I've been taught to cross my arms in an "X" pattern with balled fists and shaking your head back and forth with a stone face; it seems to work as the universal sign for "HELL NO STOP NOW WE'RE CLOSED GO AWAY"

Holding your hand up almost always means "WHY HELO THAR BUTTSE...", especially if you're far away.

It would suck to be in that guy's shoes though. That much blood on your hands can't be very nice[/understatement].
 

NohWun

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ManaByte said:
"My definition of a patriot is anyone who defends the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. "

Obviously, this country has run out of patriots, given the way the Constitution has been raped these days.

I suppose I should be careful about what I say, given that the rapists can throw me in a secret prison and keep me there without charging me or letting me see a lawyer for as long as they want, or until someone rescues the Constitution again.
 

AeroGod

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ManaByte said:
After so many truck/car bombs, they can't take any chances.

True, but it isnt really and excuse for just shooting up a car. Our own state law enforcement has really effective ways to conduct road blocks that dont invlove using heavy weapons to decimate vehicles. You'd think, if they really cared, the US would have the same...if not even better. There are plenty of non-lethal ways to incapacitate humans and/or vehicles. This makes it just seem like they dont even acknowledge that. Im not a SUPER ANTI-BUSH person and I support the war and our toops, but this kinda stuff is kinda like "WTF?" for me.
 

NohWun

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DJ Brannon said:
I've been taught to cross my arms in an "X" pattern with balled fists and shaking your head back and forth with a stone face; it seems to work as the universal sign for "HELL NO STOP NOW WE'RE CLOSED GO AWAY"

Holding your hand up almost always means "WHY HELO THAR BUTTSE...", especially if you're far away.

How hard can it be to figure out how to make a sign with the word for "stop" in the local lingo?

(Or perhaps the sign should say "stop or f*cking die!")
 

Mau_Mau

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Boo fucking hoo. They thought we were waving, that didnt stop us from lighting them up. Oh, I'm sorry for the misunderstandin sir, we're really sensative killers - we have feelings too. F-ing liberal chomes.
 
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