RainblowDash
Gold Member
Seems like a negative for renewable energy if the wind turbines freeze up on you...
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All these rolling brown outs accross dah country...
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HoleinOne
Neo Member
Renewable energy is fine if the conditions are right for it, but if you want reliability nuclear is the way to go... France has successfully utilized it for decades.
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ArtemisClydeFrog
Banned
Like oil wells that can't produce during this type of weather? Like the power lines falling down from the -20 degree, 40+ mph winds and trees breaking off onto them?
Luckily we don't use wind turbines for everything!
Luckily we don't use wind turbines for everything!
nush
Gold Member
infinitys_7th
Member
Oil wells are just one step in oil and byproduct production, and they are spread across the world - a day of them being inoperable isn't going to do shit. If we had batteries on a large, likely impossible scale wind could work like oil wells, but we don't.
If power lines are a point of failure with immediate consequences, then having another immediate point of failure behind them just bottlenecks the process.
Arkam
Member
And your solar panels get an inch of ice, then a couple inches of snow for good measure. Hopefully events like this make a dent in millennials so they see the real world limitations of these technologies. Green/Renewable energy is great, but limited in application.
eddie4
Genuinely Generous
Elektro Demon
Banned
If you want stability and reliability then you go either fossil or nuclear.
Renewable is just not gonna work, especially in modern transmission systems where frequency plays a big role.
Renewable is just not gonna work, especially in modern transmission systems where frequency plays a big role.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
What brown out? 
Ovek
7Member7
It funny that the Texas blackout and rolling brown outs were caused by all the thermal power plants and in the case of gas plants shutdown on purpose so Ercot didn't loose money buying gas at inflated wholesale prices.
The other amusing thing about the whole green energy has failed shit is that the Ercot's "frozen" wind turbines were the only thing left generating energy and they are now quickly ramping solar to fill some of the gaps.
But sure build more thermal power plants that either poison our planet or generate waste that has to be buried for tens of thousands of years, without any disaster planning.
The other amusing thing about the whole green energy has failed shit is that the Ercot's "frozen" wind turbines were the only thing left generating energy and they are now quickly ramping solar to fill some of the gaps.
But sure build more thermal power plants that either poison our planet or generate waste that has to be buried for tens of thousands of years, without any disaster planning.
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Korranator
Member
Ask California how shutting down the old coal power plants is working for then during the summer.
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It funny that the Texas blackout and rolling brown outs were caused by all the thermal power plants and in the case of gas plants shutdown on purpose so Ercot didn't loose money buying gas at inflated wholesale prices.
The other amusing thing about the whole green energy has failed shit is that the Ercot's "frozen" wind turbines were the only thing left generating energy and they are now quickly ramping solar to fill some of the gaps.
But sure build more thermal power plants that either poison our planet or generate waste that has to be buried for tens of thousands of years, without any disaster planning.
"As of 6 p.m., approximately 43,000 MW of generation has been forced off the system during this extreme winter weather event. Of that, 26,500 MW is thermal and nearly 17,000 MW is wind and solar."
So wind and solar, while only accounting for 15% of grid, caused 40% of the total outage according to ERCOTs own data. I don't see how you can spin that as anything other than a total failure for renewables.
I_D
Member
I would love to see your sources regarding the causes of the brown-outs.
Even the tiniest of Google searches makes it pretty obvious that renewable energy has nothing to do with it.
FunkMiller
Banned
OP... this thread should be an excellent opportunity for you to learn that it’s important to research a subject matter properly before you comment on it. Will stop you looking like a bit of a fool!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-56085733
https://www.independent.co.uk/clima...rozen-wind-turbines-john-cornyn-b1803193.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/17/climate/texas-blackouts-disinformation.html
https://www.fastcompany.com/9060557...uts-proves-cable-pundits-have-learned-nothing
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-56085733
https://www.independent.co.uk/clima...rozen-wind-turbines-john-cornyn-b1803193.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/17/climate/texas-blackouts-disinformation.html
https://www.fastcompany.com/9060557...uts-proves-cable-pundits-have-learned-nothing