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[EGM92]

Hey guys was wondering if someone can give me their computer experties.

I have an AMD 2200+ 1.8Ghz and my friend got a P4 2.8 and he bought a better fan/heatsink instead of the one that came in the package. So he gave it to me brand new. but I don't know if I can use it or not? can someone tell me if I can? it's huge compared to the one thats already in my PC.

I'd really appreciate the help.

Thanks,

EGM92

 

[ArcadeStickMonk]

It's for a different socket, you can't can't use it.

 

[EGM92]

so it's useless?

 

[ArcadeStickMonk]

to anyone without a socket 478, yes

unless your saavy to do some modding.

If your current cooler is doing the job, just leave it. I prolly has a good thermal pad and you'll not get as good contact with replacement thermal grease.

Plus, I bet that P4 cooler is a hella lot louder than your AMD cooler. The stock cooler on my P4 3.4 sounds like the TT Volcano 7+ that I threw in the damn woods.

 

[EGM92]

Modding isn't a problem... but what kind of mod are you talking about just to get it to fit on the motherboard and stay? my processor is running at 69degrees celcious which is way to hot it's heating up my room literally!. I'm away at college right now and DeadBroke! so If I can get this to work that would be awsome

 

[Diablos]

Dude, that's not going to work. And it is not worth the hassle if you seriously COULD mod it.

Just get this for $9
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-106-602&depa=0 - if you want peace & quiet
...or this for $13
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-124-002&depa=0 - if you don't mind some noise

 

[EGM92]

many problems... 1. I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO MONEY, NONE, ZERO, NADA! I'm not even able to eat till next week... rice and ketchup is a meal of champions!
2. New Egg isn't very fond of shipping outside of US boarders had bad experience when first buying my ATI 9800pro. (Talked to a rep to confirm my order and he confirmed everything was fine but they wouldn't ship it even though the rep said it was ok)
3. 9-13$USD is about 15-20$CAD refere to problem #1 lol

 

[Diablos]

many problems... 1. I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO MONEY, NONE, ZERO, NADA! I'm not even able to eat till next week... rice and ketchup is a meal of champions!
2. New Egg isn't very fond of shipping outside of US boarders had bad experience when first buying my ATI 9800pro. (Talked to a rep to confirm my order and he confirmed everything was fine but they wouldn't ship it even though the rep said it was ok)
3. 9-13$USD is about 15-20$CAD refere to problem #1 lol

1. Stop buying pot/drugs and/or wasting money on shit you don't need/girls.

2. Newegg rocks.

3. I see.

Well... the fact that you can't eat until next week is not a very good thing. Get some food in your stomach, then worry about a silly fan.

 

[EGM92]

lol I have an essay which is going to take me a good 50hrs to complete for my World Ethics/Economics class... I am eating.. but nothing that people would call sanitary.. lol boil some rice and add bottle of ketchup is all I have left, girlfriend in the dorm next to me gave me some beanut butter and toast but she's in the same situation as me.

I'm looking at my processor heat go from like 44degrees to like 75 and when it hits that high I just get random reboots, luckily MS word backups EVERYTHING so I didn't lose any of my work... so far.

My Mobo is a ECS L7VMM2 and it's so hot. is there anything I can do to cool it down without buying a mod? I have a fan pointing inside and I have my case open.

 

[ArcadeStickMonk]

My Mobo is a ECS L7VMM2 and it's so hot.

ECS sucks. Dear god I hate ECS. Well.... to be fair I've hated every mobo manufacturer after I've used their mobo. Gone through Soyo, ECS, and yes, even Intel this way.

I've got an Athlon 1.4 on an ECS sitting right behind me (mom shipped her PC to me to fix) and I know all about that heat. My solution was to mount a Volcan 7+\hairdryer on it, but I guess you have to wait on that.

For now, underclock your CPU while you are writing your paper, and turn the case on it's side. With the heat rising straight up and out, and the CPU UCed, you should be fine.

You know how to underclock right? It's a bios setting, prolly just changing two values from 133 to 100. This actually might be too drastic of a step, but if you keep crashing and you gotta use it, then I'd go UC.

 

[EGM92]

Went through my entire bios, and can't find any options to underclock all I found was like to run some osrt of memory cache or something like that at 100 or 133, I don't think it's my ram cause I'm running 512 DDR 2100 I seriously need something to cool it down. I got a patch the disable all unused services. And it increased this speed. I the setting in the bios from 133 to 100 and got 3 random reboots on the booting process which was really really weird. but it's running now with minimal crashes... but is there anyway to get speed preformance loading up internet explorer/Encarta for research takes so damn long!

 

[ArcadeStickMonk]

if it wasn't almost 1am, and a huge pain in the ass with the cables, I'd fire up my ECS and get the exact syntax for you. All I can say further is that on my BIOS, the selection in in the second column, towards the top. Inside, only two values can be changed. These values stay at 133 normally, but if I put them to 100, then my AMD underclocks to 1ghz. It could be completely different with yours, but chances are good that they are similar. You might try setting the defaults or tripping the CMOS, you'll know success if your CPU registers as lower during boot up.

I don't know about IE or Encarta (so 1993!) running slow, but my first instinct is that you have lots of shit running i the background. You said you had a "patch" that disabled services? I dunno about that patch but I highly doubt there is such a thing to turn off your AIM, Real, and Winmx shit for you. Clear out your system tray.

Hit ctrl-alt-delete and check the performance tab, there it will show you how much RAM is free and what the current CPU load is. If either of these values are taxing, and you're not doing anything with your PC, then something is running in the background sapping up resources. This is the most common cause of peoples PCs starting to run slow. Cleaning up with Adaware and Spybot are a good idea too.

I sure hope some of this helps, and I sure hope your paper isn't due tomorrow. Just get the PC to a usable state, no matter how ghetto it looks, and get your work done. After the pressure is off, look into reformatting your PC if you did indeed have tonsa shit running in the background. I'm the kinda user who will wipe my PC clean and start over the instant I feel my rig is "running dirty," and it sounds like yours is.

When you have a little money, get a AMD CPU cooler. I can reccomend the Thermaltake series as being very effective, and very loud. The Volcano 7+ kicked ass, but I got mad at it anyway. I put a 9 on my sister's AMD, and it does a good job. Often these and other brands of coolers have thermometers or limiters to control how fast the fan spins. I found a nice middle ground with the 9, but be prepared for a decibal increase. These shouldn't cost you much at all, but I think you mentioned problems with Newegg. Well, first thing's first.

 

[ArcadeStickMonk]

Wait, did you say you had a 9800Pro in there? Did you play Doom3? If so, then Doom probably broke it, like mine.

Three weeks ago, right as I started Doom3, my 9800 Pro started crashing more and more often until it was actually artifacting in windows. ONE solution was to download this thing
http://www28.brinkster.com/chrisww1942/
and underclock my 9800 Pro.

Another solution was to replace it with a 6800GT and post this picture

I don't like telling you that you need to replace everything in your case, but the 98 is another likely cause of high heat. And you really shouldn't take it as a fact that Doom3 broke yours, but you should underclock it a bit too, say take both setting down around 300 for a bit. Those speeds proved safe for me. But in the end it was too late for the 98