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[turnbuckle]

Mostly the value proposition. Also the fact that it's only an electric car below 45 miles an hour. Over that and it'a gasoline car that gets 33 mpg.

I'm not opposed to these cars (check my garage, my wife drives an Insight) but I do think the hoopla surround this car is overblown.

As is the hyperbolic criticisms. I mean, "piece of shit" is a bit extreme for a car that at worst has failed to be as fuel efficient as was hoped. At least, at worst for now...it obviously could end up being a turd after a few years on the road.

And hey, this is our company and I doubt they'll have a lot of problem generating demand at this high price point early on. What are you, some socialist who thinks tax payers should further subsidize this thing or something?

I hope so. Like I said, I'll bite when it makes sense. Give me a Tesla Pick-up and I am there!

I'm in the same boat. It doesn't make sense to buy this car now, but I'm hoping it does so well that EVs (both electric only and gas/electric combo) see more substantial investment from other manufacturers as well as the tech being integrated into regular models as an option. The quicker this happens the quicker the infrastructure will get implemented to make these cars more practical.

I'm gonna run my Accord to the ground and hope what's available by then makes the OG Volt look like a piece of shit.

 

[sc0la]

Mostly the value proposition. Also the fact that it's only an electric car below 45 miles an hour. Over that and it'a gasoline car that gets 33 mpg.

I'm not opposed to these cars (check my garage, my wife drives an Insight) but I do think the hoopla surround this car is overblown




I hope so. Like I said, I'll bite when it makes sense. Give me a Tesla Pick-up and I am there!

Tesla is working on an SUV after the model S allegedly. Its not a pick up though

 

[eznark]

As is the hyperbolic criticisms. I mean, "piece of shit" is a bit extreme for a car that at worst has failed to be as fuel efficient as was hoped. At least, at worst for now...it obviously could end up being a turd after a few years on the road.

And hey, this is our company and I doubt they'll have a lot of problem generating demand at this high price point early on. What are you, some socialist who thinks tax payers should further subsidize this thing or something?

While a ridiculously overpriced car for everyone, it is in fact a piece of shit for me. I drive hundreds of miles in some days and absolutely need a pick-up. Hence my over-strong statement.

 

[Anasui Kishibe]

ah, Motortrend is American. That's why

*whistles

 

[santouras]

mechanical gauges please. I hate this LCD rubbish

 

[ascii42]

ah, Motortrend is American. That's why

*whistles

Erm...Motortrend has never shown a bias towards American vehicles. Often it's quite the opposite really.

 

[FStop7]

The Dacia Sandero was ROBBED.

 

[David Incorporated Esq.]

I love NeoGAF threads about cars. They make me feel so smart.

I guess people don't remember how much Priuses were being sold for when they first came out. Hint: More than the Volt.

And people really need to drop it with this "Oh, cheap GM plastic interior, yuck yuck yuck." Yes, everyone knows they made shitty cars for a while, I know people at GM who will admit this, but talking about the cheap interiors only indicates that you haven't sat in one of their new cars. I was in a Volt the other day and it's actually very nice, and so is the Cruze (which is a car I cannot recommend enough).

What I'm trying to say is: GM NO LONGER MAKES CAVALIERS, SHUT UP ABOUT THEM ALREADY

Go drive a new Chevy, Cadillac or Buick, it will surprise you.

 

[ep85]

What I'm trying to say is: GM NO LONGER MAKES CAVALIERS, SHUT UP ABOUT THEM ALREADY

They replaced the Cavalier with an equally offending Cobalt.

The Cruze looks very interesting though.

 

[Router]

Oh America. You and your ugly as fuck cars.

Spoiler

ehhhh... It looks ok I guess

 

[David Incorporated Esq.]

They replaced the Cavalier with an equally offending Cobalt.

The Cruze looks very interesting though.

Yeah the Cobalt was no stunner, but with my people my age (I'm 26) everyone remembers driving a shitty cavalier as their first car so it's what I use. The Cruze is a very nice car, is getting some great reviews from the press and I would absolutely look at it over a Civic or Corolla.

Really I'm just tired of people harshing on GM for its past, its products have really come around and people need to experience them before they open their mouths and shoot out nonsense.

Oh America. You and your ugly as fuck cars.

Spoiler

ehhhh... It looks ok I guess

The car looks fantastic in person. The proportions are spot on, difficult for such a high beltline, and from every angle it looks wild enough to be exciting without being too absurd. It's a fresh design that I can't wait to see on the roads.

 

[tino]

Wasn't Motor Trend the magazine that gave 2002 Ford Thunderbird the coty? Do a search if you completely blank out on this pos.

Getting coty from Motor Trend is like getting 4/4 movie reviews from Rolling Stone magazine.:lol

 

[Trojita]

Wow I just noticed they put actual usb ports in the car standard. You no longer have to buy an iPod only system for syncing digital music to your audio player. By default it will also charge your device.

Every Chevrolet Volt will come standard with 30GB of audio data storage for digital music files. It also allows you to use the DVR-like timeshift functionality. This "Pause and Play" feature lets you stop a live radio broadcast and record up to 20 minutes that can be played at a later time.

Nice

 

[Az]

Not a fan of the interior. Car looks sleek though.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Not a fan of the interior. Car looks sleek though.

I'm also not a fan of the white center console. oh well.

 

[Circle T]

What were the other contenders from MT's COTY this year? I can't seem to find the list on their horrible, click-fest website.

*EDIT* - Nevermind, I found them. Not a very strong list of contenders to beat, if I'm being honest. But hey, good on 'em. I hope the Volt sells well, as it seems to be a very nice car.

 

[DUFFMCWALIN]

It just looks so cheap and plastic to me. Will there ever be a good looking hybrid that most people can afford?

 

[jamesinclair]

n/m

 

[speculawyer]

Except for the EPA sticker . . . the Volt is ready for shipment! Go GM!

Chevy Volts ready to ship, they just need official MPG stickers from the EPA

The first batch of production Chevy Volts are ready to ship, they're just waiting on the EPA to issue an official mileage label. General Motors global product chief Tom Stephens told Automotive News that the required sticker certifying the Volt's miles per gallon rating is expected "any day," and that's a requirement before the vehicles can head out the door. As we reported a few weeks ago, when the 2011 Fuel Economy guide was released by the EPA and DOE, the Volt just missed being included in the publication because, as the EPA stated, "no 2011 model year electric or plug-in hybrid electric vehicles have completed testing as of publication of this list." The Toyota Prius was again listed as the most fuel efficient available in the U.S., but we'll soon be able to see where the Volt stands in terms of official fuel economy.

The Volt, named Motor Trend magazine's 2011 Car of the Year, can run 25 to 50 miles on battery only and an additional 310 miles when assisted by the gasoline engine. GM is pushing through with its plans of producing 10,000 Volts through 2011 and 45,000 in 2012.

http://green.autoblog.com/2010/11/1...y-just-need-official-mpg-stickers/2#c31582436

I'm a shareholder . . . and so are you if you are a US tax-payer.

 

[ascii42]

I'm also not a fan of the white center console. oh well.

It can also be silver or black, I believe.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

It can also be silver or black, I believe.

oh, well it's good stuff then.

 

[jamesinclair]

Heres one way to eliminate "range anxiety"

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Heres one way to eliminate "range anxiety"

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there is no range anxiety with this car as long as you have gas.

 

[WordAssassin]

If this car cost less oh my God I would be all over it. One way they could do that for me that would be fucking peachy would be if they just got rid of the back seat. Make a Volt 2-seater / coupe and I will jizz in my pants.

 

[SmokyDave]

I actually think that's quite good looking for an electric car / hybrid. Not too big a fan of the grill area but it fits with the styling of the rest of their range so I understand why it looks like that.

 

[akachan ningen]

What a joke.

 

[GamePnoy74]

I prefer the look of the Volt's European cousin, the Opel Ampera.

 

[eznark]

Yeah the Cobalt was no stunner, but with my people my age (I'm 26) everyone remembers driving a shitty cavalier as their first car so it's what I use. The Cruze is a very nice car, is getting some great reviews from the press and I would absolutely look at it over a Civic or Corolla.

Really I'm just tired of people harshing on GM for its past, its products have really come around and people need to experience them before they open their mouths and shoot out nonsense.


The car looks fantastic in person. The proportions are spot on, difficult for such a high beltline, and from every angle it looks wild enough to be exciting without being too absurd. It's a fresh design that I can't wait to see on the roads.

I don't know what your title is at GM, but I respect what you're doing here.

Companies will always be saddled with their massive failures of the past. When you produce utter shit for decades I'm not going to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Plus, Chevy still makes a Malibu. They need to come out with a bad ass new Camaro. Burnish the image a little bit.

 

[jamesinclair]

there is no range anxiety with this car as long as you have gas.

But it is an issue for the Leaf.

I posted it in this thread because the photo op used a Volt, and it should be cheaper to charge at a station than use gas.

 

[ascii42]

I don't know what your title is at GM, but I respect what you're doing here.

Companies will always be saddled with their massive failures of the past. When you produce utter shit for decades I'm not going to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Plus, Chevy still makes a Malibu. They need to come out with a bad ass new Camaro. Burnish the image a little bit.

But the current Malibu is a great car, and they are coming out with a bad ass version of the Camaro, the Z28, which will have the same engine that goes into the CTS-V.

 

[Fatalah]

They're off to be delivered!

Kind of crazy, when I watched "Who Killed the Electric Car?" I never thought GM would have one again so soon!

 

[LosDaddie]

Looks great

 

[CharlieDigital]

Should be noted that it also made Car and Driver's 10 Best for 2011.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q4/2011_10best_cars-10best_cars/2011_chevrolet_volt_page_4

To put it simply, the Chevy Volt was far and away the biggest surprise to every editor at this year’s 10Best event. None of us imagined that nestling into the glass cockpit would bring the words “automotive bliss” and “electric vehicle” together in the same sentence. The smooth-riding Volt can’t shred tarmac like a VW GTI or infuse fun into the family-sedan segment like a Honda Accord or a Hyundai Sonata. Think of the Volt as smile-inducing Xanax for range anxiety—something all other EVs evoke. Canceling the range limitation from the EV equation doesn’t make it perfect, though. A tight back seat, limited cargo capacity, and a general lack of horsepower—though plenty of low-end grunt to merge onto the highway like you have somewhere to be—would normally eliminate a 3800-pound porker from contention. However, one would need to be driving straight through the Library of Congress to detect the ­switchover from EV mode to gas-electric hybrid operation. And maximizing the electric range by curtailing full-throttle or full-brake episodes brings its own kind of driver engagement. Best of all, its efficiency is unmatched, as long as interstate travel is omitted. One editor drove the Volt 101 miles in 18 hours (including a 10.5-hour charge) and only used one gallon of gas. That’s some seriously eye-opening arithmetic.