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Any way to prevent toilet overflowing while using a plunger?

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demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
I've been in this apartment for a couple months and the toilet plumbing is crap, sometimes plugging and overflowing for no apparant reason. Now it's doing it again, but it's plugged with SHIT. Is there some way to prevent the toilet from overflowing, like turning off whatever mechanism that causes the bowl to fill up and overflow, while plunging? What the SHIT do I do? I don't want this SHIT on my bathroom floor.
 

ChrisReid

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Well, lots of toilets are designed so they'd only overflow under extreme circumstances. Sounds like yours isn't one of them. I really don't know much about plumbing.. but there should be a knob underneath and behind the toilet. Close that off. Then in the back of the toilet, when you lift off the heavy cover, it's fully of dingy water. Scoop all that out.. and there's no water left for the bowl to fill with when you plunge.
 

J2 Cool

Member
Worst feeling in the world is when the toilet's filling up and you're plungering your ass off in a futile attempt. Living in a hotel for a month was bliss. Best toilet's ever. They'd suck a baby down if I had to.. not that I would but i mean ..
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
Yeah, this toilet is really fucking crappy. So to speak.

Anyway, I'm plunging (not flushing tho) and it's kind of filling with with a water that has that shitty murkiness to it. Is that a bad sign, or what? Should I bother flushing?

Also, is plunging worhless if you're not flushing too?

Well, lots of toilets are designed so they'd only overflow under extreme circumstances. Sounds like yours isn't one of them. I really don't know much about plumbing.. but there should be a knob underneath and behind the toilet. Close that off. Then in the back of the toilet, when you lift off the heavy cover, it's fully of dingy water. Scoop all that out.. and there's no water left for the bowl to fill with when you plunge.
And you can still flush when it's like that, with no water?

Worst feeling in the world is when the toilet's filling up and you're plungering your ass off in a futile attempt.
Why did I picture that and laugh? especially in my situation. :(
 

Shinobi

Member
Best thing to do is to get a bucket, fill it up with hot water, and slowly pour that into the toilet. That way if it's still blocked, you control the output so excess water won't get onto the floor. Meanwhile the hot water will hopefully eat away at the crap that's jammed up.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
GAF, you magnificent bastard, you saved my ass once again.


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J2 Cool

Member
Shinobi said:
Best thing to do is to get a bucket, fill it up with hot water, and slowly pour that into the toilet. That way if it's still blocked, you control the output so excess water won't get onto the floor. Meanwhile the hot water will hopefully eat away at the crap that's jammed up.

that was literally brilliant
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
cybamerc said:
Move to Europe!
Where you can just shit into a bucket and dump it out the window onto unsuspecting pedestrians!


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:p
 

Vlad

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I grew up in a house with a similar problem, and thus learned all about how to avoid toilet water on the floor.

What you might want to try is getting somewhat familiar with the insides of the tank. The standard toilet design has a large floater (looks like a big rubber ball) on the end of a long rod. This part of the plumbing controls when the water flow stops. Once the water in the tank gets to a certain level, it pushes the floater and rod up, cutting off the water. The fastest way to avoid toilet water on your floor is by taking the lid off the tank and lifting the rod. We actually rigged up a little hook out of paperclips and a small chain that hooked onto the back of the tank and we could set the rod in there to keep it held up, because as soon as you let it go, the water's gonna start again. This method can be a LOT faster than fiddling around behind the toilet for the water cutoff valve, not to mention that if you're too slow turning the water off, you're likely to get a whole lot messier when the thing overflows.

Of course, the above method requires that you get really good at taking the lid off the tank, putting it on the sink or something, and lifting that rod, so get some practice in. Make sure that you don't keep a whole lot of stuff on the back of the toilet. You don't want to rush through everything and accidentally drop the toilet tank lid, as it's likely to just shatter if it hits the floor hard.

Once you've got the immediate problem solved, you've just got to plunge. If the plunger you're using is one of the regular red ones that just looks like a half-sphere, get a different one. I find that the ones that look like this:

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Work a whole lot better. I'm guessing that the little thing coming off the end really helps push water down the pipe or something.
 

sefskillz

shitting in the alley outside your window
Vlad said:
Work a whole lot better. I'm guessing that the little thing coming off the end really helps push water down the pipe or something.

It just helps make better suction. Get an auger! Nothing like twisting a rod up your toilet to push the shit on through.
 

belgurdo

Banned
Either get a different plunger (like the one above, or one that they sell in some places that is basically looks like a thin plastic vent), or flush the toilet and then plunger it while its filling (it aids in suction)
 

Cloudy

Banned
My toilet was clogged up earlier today and after trying for a while with the plunger, I was about to give up and call maintenance. But I remembered this thread for some reason and I tried the hot water theory posted above and OMG it worked immediately!


Thanks GA, you truly are a reservoir of information :D
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
Cloudy said:
My toilet was clogged up earlier today and after trying for a while with the plunger, I was about to give up and call maintenance. But I remembered this thread for some reason and I tried the hot water theory posted above and OMG it worked immediately!


Thanks GA, you truly are a reservoir of information :D
Indeed. GA is a latern on the dark and mysterious path that is life.
 

Makura

Member
Get a REAL toilet. I hate wimpy toilets. They should be able to flush a brick or a dead cat with little effort!
 

dem

Member
Theres a little knob on the pipe to stop it i think

I saw bob vila do it once... really.
 

Shinobi

Member
Makura said:
Get a REAL toilet. I hate wimpy toilets. They should be able to flush a brick or a dead cat with little effort!

:lol I remember being able to flush newspaper pages down the toilet in England when the rolls ran out. Meanwhile the toilets here get clogged from a couple of tissue squares. It's so sad.
 

sc0la

Unconfirmed Member
If you put some sort of mass in the tank, then less water will fill the toilet after every flush, thus when there is afat ass dump, or when you put the plunger in it won't overflow. WIN.
 
My toilet sucks. I'm looking forward to getting one of these bad boys in the near future:

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http://www.totousa.com/toto/productpage.asp?PID=717

The Toto UltraMax, one-piece with SoftClose seat and SanaGloss glazing. It is the ultimate toilet. Rated the top toilet by professional plumbers, for being able to suck down practically anything in a single flush, and super quiet to boot.
 

robochimp

Member
Look for the water turn off valve on a tube coming out of the wall and connecting to the toilet. If for some reason that isnt there. Take the cover off of the toilet tank and there will be a float(big plastic bulb) and the tank fills it floats to the top and seals off the flow of water. Just pull it up yourself and the water will stop flowing.
 
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