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[djjinx2]

Thought I would hop on Geforce Now as I haven't used the service since they removed all those games waaay back.

Got an ultimate day pass, tested on Shield TV via wired gigabit. Man it's so smooth, low latency too. Tested it on my mini pc in bedroom via mesh access point Lan port.

Played some Warzone and latency was 14-16ms (via Geforce app). 120fps all settings maxed @1440p (monitor is only 1440). Forza Motorsport new track looked amazing, alot better than Series X to me.

I'm considering getting BF6 and solely playing it via GFN. Just not sure of Pros and Cons VS Series X.

A pro is I can play in bedroom on the mini pc.

As per title, anyone else use the service???

 

[lastmessiah]

been an Ultimate subscriber for over a year now. I have a 5070 Ti but still use GFN for remote play and just whenever it is convenient. Fantastic service in my experience. I don't bother discussing it because you'll just be met with "cl0uD g@m1ng $ucKs" responses, but it's obvious this is only going to get better.

 

[TIGERCOOL]

I just got ultimate for a month to mess around with on my new laptop. it all works pretty well. looks good and very playable latency. that said, I was not aware of the playtime cap (100 hours for the month) and I immediately cancelled upon seeing that. I don't want to worry about leaving a game running or something. terrible business practice.

 

[Mahnmut]

I use it and I'm a believer. Since I've upgraded my internet connection to fiber and the 5080 update, it just made my i9 4070ti setup obsolete.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Can anyone explain on what legal grounds exactly Nvidia is obligated to have licensing deals in place for every single game you can play over their servers? I mean you've already bought the license for the game, why wouldn't you be allowed to play it on a remote machine?

 

[DarkStream]

Works extremely well for me. I used it in 2018 for the first time, it was already awesome then. Latency feels almost non-existant, image is sharp. I use it over WiFi, no issues.

I get it, cloud gaming usually sucks, but this one is the exception to the rule.

Back in 2018, you could run any Steam game on it, you simply had to "install" the game on their service. Sadly, they had to remove that.

 

[djjinx2]

I just got ultimate for a month to mess around with on my new laptop. it all works pretty well. looks good and very playable latency. that said, I was not aware of the playtime cap (100 hours for the month) and I immediately cancelled upon seeing that. I don't want to worry about leaving a game running or something. terrible business practice.

It disconnects you when idle so wouldn't waste much time at all afaik.
But limiting Ultimate is kind of shitty I guess. 100 hours is alot of play time on the other hand, I wish I had time to hit near that, I got rookie numbers these days

 

[Superkewl]

I've used it in the past and the service was great, but once I heard that they were introducing time limits on the "ultimate" service, I decided I will never go back.

 

[Baemono]

I tried to subscribe to ultimate several months ago and they were like "no sorry we're full"

 

[Dalbajobas]

I just got ultimate for a month to mess around with on my new laptop. it all works pretty well. looks good and very playable latency. that said, I was not aware of the playtime cap (100 hours for the month) and I immediately cancelled upon seeing that. I don't want to worry about leaving a game running or something. terrible business practice.

100 H is pretty low. When GTA6 comes out that's a week worth of play.

 

[Spyxos]

Is there a way too see which games are in the 5080 tier? Seems to very limited selection.

 

[GoldenEye98]

100 H is pretty low. When GTA6 comes out that's a week worth of play.

100hr a month is not low for the vast majority of people. I don't think I have ever hit that in my entire life.

 

[Spyxos]

I just got ultimate for a month to mess around with on my new laptop. it all works pretty well. looks good and very playable latency. that said, I was not aware of the playtime cap (100 hours for the month) and I immediately cancelled upon seeing that. I don't want to worry about leaving a game running or something. terrible business practice.

Huch that is defivitly new. What a shitty change.

 

[tr1p1ex]

Do most folks realize they are renting a gaming pc with these services and paying to power it, maintain it, house it and send the video signal to their ISP.

 

[teokrazia]

Is my 'high end PC' since 2020.

 

[GoldenEye98]

Do most folks realize they are renting a gaming pc with these services and paying to power it, maintain it, house it and send the video signal to their ISP.

Yes and it is vastly more cost efficient than running a local ~ 500W $2000+ PC.

 

[tr1p1ex]

Yes and it is vastly more cost efficient than running a local ~ 500W $2000+ PC.

No it's more expensive to run for reasons noted. On top of it they want to make a nice profit (after taxes) in addition to the greater expense.

Any savings for the customer would be derived from the sharing. And it's the sharing during peak times that counts.

 

[ReyBrujo]

Can anyone explain on what legal grounds exactly Nvidia is obligated to have licensing deals in place for every single game you can play over their servers? I mean you've already bought the license for the game, why wouldn't you be allowed to play it on a remote machine?

I guess it's something like "Your license is for private use, their license is for profit use".

 

[Three]

I've used it before but don't use it. Would much rather use my local 5090 over it.

 

[Three]

Can anyone explain on what legal grounds exactly Nvidia is obligated to have licensing deals in place for every single game you can play over their servers? I mean you've already bought the license for the game, why wouldn't you be allowed to play it on a remote machine?

It's under the license agreement which is pretty stupid but just the way it is:

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Streaming a game you already own is no different to playing it on local hardware. I can stream game within my own home, I can set up a PC on the other side of the world and stream the games I own from it, there is nothing in the EULAs to stop me doing so.


No, when a game is sold to you you are entering into an agreement for the license of said copy of the game. That agreement is outlined in the EULA, at that point they categorically cannot "do what they want with it".



Every time a piece of PC hardware is sold because a user wants to play a game on said piece of hardware its...

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[ReyBrujo]

No it's likely more expensive to run.

Initial investment is much higher, and if you build your computer just for one game and then stop playing until you find another game appealing, your setup might already be obsolete. Owning is better but the mass audience already opted for Netflix, once the technology is right they will vote for GFN.

 

[Xtib81]

The service is a letdown for me. I read so much praise about it. Yet, I tested it on my Samsung tv and even though I have a crazy good connection and sub 5ms ping, it doesn't feel smooth at all.
I tested it on my tablet too, it was slightly better but still flawed. Even the app itself isn't smooth. I have a hard time believing those who claim that it's like playing locally.

 

[MacReady13]

Good luck for anyone who uses it and enjoys it. I don't use it. I refuse to subscribe to anything, least of all gaming related.

 

[Quasicat]

I've seriously thought about it, but I don't have a lot of games that support it. If Sony would get on board, I would jump on it immediately.

 

[tr1p1ex]

Initial investment is much higher, and if you build your computer just for one game and then stop playing until you find another game appealing, your setup might already be obsolete. Owning is better but the mass audience already opted for Netflix, once the technology is right they will vote for GFN.

Well that's a different discussion. But yes, as with anything you rent, the attraction is no upfront payment.

But Netflix is $20/mo, actually has a mass audience unlike the audience for AAA games, and doesn't have to dedicate a $2k computer to 1 person for them to enjoy a show.


What my point gets at is ...people seem to want the world for free sort to speak. They want the $2k+ gaming pc computer available to them 24/7, maintained, housed, and powered by someone else and only want to pay $20/mo for it. Not sure that math works.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

Well that's a different discussion. But yes, as with anything you rent, the attraction is no upfront payment.

But Netflix is $20/mo, actually has a mass audience unlike the audience for AAA games, and doesn't have to dedicate a $2k computer to 1 person for them to enjoy a show.


What my point gets at is ...people seem to want the world for free sort to speak. They want the $2k+ gaming pc computer available to them 24/7, maintained, housed, and powered by someone else and only want to pay $20/mo for it. Not sure that math works.

Do the math. Build a a gaming PC every 5 years and you may very well come out cheaper than this "you will own nothing" crap.

 

[djjinx2]

Is there a way too see which games are in the 5080 tier? Seems to very limited selection.

Apex Legends

Assassin's Creed Shadows

Baldur's Gate III

Black Myth: Wukong

Borderlands 4

Clair Obscur: Expedition 33

Counter-Strike 2

Cronos: The New Dawn

Cyberpunk 2077

Doom: the Dark Ages

Dune: Awakening

Dying Light: The Beast

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered

Grounded 2

Hell Is Us

Indiana Jones and the Great Circle

Mafia: The Old Country

Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024

The Witcher 3

Overwatch 2

Titan Quest II

Warframe

Do most folks realize they are renting a gaming pc with these services and paying to power it, maintain it, house it and send the video signal to their ISP.

Of course, it works out at £16.66 a month for a 5080 capable RTX rig, seems cheap as chips when you see the cost of the GPU

I can play this on my Shield TV and in my room on my mini pc.

 

[Dorfdad]

Really love the service and the updates it's gotten year over year. Way more than any console had for sure! I've been a follower and become more of a purists for the service. Yes it has issues but those can all be overcome except them removing a game from service, which does suck but hasn't happened since they went 1.0 and some games backed out

Highly recommend it as either for someone who games 2-3 hours a day or someone who has an apple device or just wants to play from a laptop / iPad etc

 

[SScorpio]

FYI, through Sept 25th, if you purchase a year subscription to GeForce NOW Ultimate. You'll get a free Borderlands 4 copy. People on the Reddit are saying that got Steam keys, not Epic.

So if you wanted the game anyways, that's $200-$70. So just over $10/month.

 

[Minsc]

Yeah, I've always thought about this service, clearly it's not actually more expensive than owning a gaming PC which you keep up to date. I don't know how anyone could argue a service at $100-200 / year is more expensive than a multi-thousand dollar PC which needs upgrading every 4-5 years to stay competitive with the service's upgrades (free).

 

[RJMacready73]

I've used it before but don't use it. Would much rather use my local 5090 over it.

 

[RoboFu]

 

[vodka-bull]

I'll subscribe to it once physical is dead for consoles.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

It's under the license agreement which is pretty stupid but just the way it is:

I don't think I can follow. How can it be legal to stop me from using the software license I bought on a remote machine I'm renting? How does this work?

 

[Spyxos]

Yeah, I've always thought about this service, clearly it's not actually more expensive than owning a gaming PC which you keep up to date. I don't know how anyone could argue a service at $100-200 / year is more expensive than a multi-thousand dollar PC which needs upgrading every 4-5 years to stay competitive with the service's upgrades (free).

Unfortunately, it's not really comparable. Many many games are simply missing. Sure, a PC is more expensive, but with GeForce Now, you have to hope that the game you want to play is even available. Which, in my case, was rarely the case.

In addition, some games were simply down for several days and you just got an error message when you tried to start them. I haven't been able to start Bf 2042 for about a week. The last time I had Geforce Now subscription.

 

[Dr.D00p]

100hr usage caps in 2025, by a 4 Trillion Dollar printing press of a corporation?

...Fuck off, you cunts.

 

[Jesb]

It's great it's been a saving grace this gen that's allowed me to skip on consoles. But than they ruined it with a cap. For 12 months it costs $280 here. My subscription is ending in a few days and I'm considering that maybe it's time to cancel it. That $280 might be better served on a PS5 pro or S2.

 

[Three]

I don't think I can follow. How can it be legal to stop me from using the software license I bought on a remote machine I'm renting? How does this work?

Some licenses state "to install and use one (1) copy of the Game Software" and prohibits users from using the game in a "remote access arrangement" or ask for it to be "under your legitimate control" which with GFN it depends what they mean by that definition.

This hasn't been legally challenged in the gaming sphere much but the fact that the machine is rented privately to stream doesn't help either because ABC vs Aereo was a similar case in the media world that ABC won. It is considered illegal to "publicly perform" a copyrighted work. So the publisher can control which streaming platforms they release their work on and prevent private streams on rented hardware.

 

[Topher]

I tried it recently. I was curious if it could replace my gaming PC. Answer is a resounding "nope". The service is great. The lag is barely there but still noticeable. Problem is it doesn't have all my games and you can't have mods. Mods are huge for PC gaming. So GFN is a great option if you don't have a gaming PC and don't mind the restrictions, but for me......I'll stick to my gaming PC.

 

[tronied]

I have a ping of 6-7ms from the service and it could definitely replace my PC. The only issue I have with it is the limited game selection. Having the integration with Xbox Game Pass is also a big bonus, but again not every game is there. As such, for the newer games it's definitely my go-to, but don't think it can just replace your PC and have access to your game library.