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[Lima]

That gold is ugly as shit.

The only one that looks decent is the silver one.

I'm actually digging the 5C colours more.

 

[Jarmel]

I didn't watch the event, but reading The Verge it said it couldn't be accessed by apps. So it doesn't seem like there will be one? A buddy joked: "Now when they steal your iPhone they'll cut off your finger too."

Are you fucking serious?

I'm fucking dying over here.

 

[massoluk]

The spec bump is nice. I really don't care about that touch id thing... Seem unnecessary.

 

[AstroNut325]

$700 off contract? Wow that is a lot.

Gotta keep those 40+% gross margins.

Edit:
I love the gold! Screw the haters!

 

[YuriLowell]

All phones cost around that much unsubsidized. Are you guys really that surprised?

Nexus 4 is 200 bucks off contract.

 

[Snkfanatic]

I will probably upgrade later this year or even possibly wait. No rush for me, my 4S is still holding on strong.

Only thing I really like is the new camera.

 

[AstroNut325]

Nexus 4 is 200 bucks off contract.

It's the exception. Not the rule.

Especially when you consider the fact that Google is trying to make money from software and services. Not hardware.

 

[Ghazi]

I was so wrong, what have I been missing? I'm totally upgrading ASAP.

 

[Majine]

I don't know what 64-bit means for phones either. The apps still look like phone apps.

 

[TommyT]

I do have some good ideas if using the API is true:

You can prevent texts/emails/folders/specific contacts from being read/opened/seen unless you give the appropriate fingerprint. Apple, helping people cheat with the iPhone 5S!

 

[IcyBlueStrawberry]

Yeah no.

This might sound crazy, but I may just have a differing opinion to yours :O

I bought a white iPhone 5 because didn't really like the bluish tint on the black model, but this doesn't have that problem anymore. I think it's an improvement.

Also, I think the 5C looks cheap and juvenile. So there.

 

[kmag]

Calling it now. Within a year, widespread reliability issues with the fingerprint sensor.

 

[diehard]

Prices have been the same for years now.

why is it still a discussion?

 

[YuriLowell]

It's the exception. Not the rule.

Especially when you consider the fact that Google is trying to make money from software and services. Not hardware.

Considering apple also makes a ton of money from software and services, it makes their pricing seem even worse.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Yeah any news on if the fingerprint stuff is optional?

Prices have been the same for years now.

why is it still a discussion?

Apple reasons? Its like every other Apple product thread.

I think the whole rumor of a budget iPhone is throwing everything off too

 

[CosmicGroinPull]

Wasn't expecting much from 5s, so this fingerprint thingie helps. Still, it's pretty amazing; I thought fingerprint scanners required swiping or red led underneath.

 

[Lima]

This might sound crazy, but I may just have a differing opinion to yours :O

I bought a white iPhone 5 because didn't really like the bluish tint on the black model, but this doesn't have that problem anymore. I think it's an improvement.

They only changed it to make the scuffs less noticeable. Really half-assed if you ask me.

 

[Swag]

Would've been awesome if they had put a circular LED around the home button to make it easier to see if you have a notification on the phone.

 

[Ovid]

Nexus 4 is 200 bucks off contract.

Galaxy S4 is $650.

 

[Scuderia]

When?

And iOS7, when?

Ta

 

[johnny_park]

I'm guessing you can't use gloves when using this phone? Score one for windows phone.

 

[IcyBlueStrawberry]

They only changed it to make the scuffs less noticeable. Really half-assed if you ask me.

I'm not saying that I think it's a monumental difference or even worth considering as an upgrade, but I do prefer the color schemes of the new phones.

 

[jamesinclair]

Prices have been the same for years now.

why is it still a discussion?

Are you new to electronics?

Prices fall.

55 inch TVs no longer average $15,000.

 

[CriterionDog]

When does the 5S release? Where is this December thing coming from?

 

[zhorkat]

I do have some good ideas if using the API is true:

You can prevent texts/emails/folders/specific contacts from being read/opened/seen unless you give the appropriate fingerprint. Apple, helping people cheat with the iPhone 5S!

Locking an app so it can only be opened if you have the right fingerprint would be pretty neat.

 

[Lord Error]

I didn't expect much, so I can't say I'm disappointed...

"Space Gray" does look really nice, though. Definitely better than the black version of the 5.

Yeah, I don' t know about that. It seems more like something they've done to avoid the edge stripping problem, but it looks very much like step back in design to what they had before (black + silver ring on 4 and 4S). At least it's darker and not bright silver.

 

[snacknuts]

Calling it now. Within a year, widespread reliability issues with the fingerprint sensor.

With as much as I hear about people having problems with the home button, I suspect you might be right.

 

[Lima]

When does the 5S release? Where is this December thing coming from?

It's gonna be available in over 100 countries by December.

 

[Ovid]

Are you new to electronics?

Prices fall.

55 inch TVs no longer average $15,000.

4K ones do, right?

 

[mrkgoo]

Is it weird that they redesigned all the icons for the built in apps to reflect iOS7 but none of the ones that you download for free?

I imagine they will come, if not already done and getting an update on ios7 launch day.

Unlike the built in ones, we're just seeing the betas!
And that said, find my iPhone was updated with new ios7 style icon.

 

[massoluk]

Calling it now. Within a year, widespread reliability issues with the fingerprint sensor.

You can opt for old school log in in addition to fingerprints, right? Or I could imagine widespread complain about people totally locked out of their phone because of smudge on their fingers or something like that.

 

[subrock]

annoyed that I can't preorder but meh, I can deal.

 

[twofold]

All phones cost around that much unsubsidized. Are you guys really that surprised?

Here in the UK, on Amazon, you can buy the Galaxy S4 16gb for £427 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00BULAUWG/), the HTC One 32gb for £424 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000NTBLV0/), and the Xperia Z for £378 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00AXXOXJI/).

The iPhone 5c, in comparison, costs £469 for the 16gb model, and the 5s 16gb costs £529.

The iPhone prices aren't in line with the costs of other high end handsets.. In the UK, at least.

 

[Snuggles]

I think the gold one is hot. I'd go with it. As a 4S opener, I'm open to the idea of upgrading. I might just wait and see what the 5 is going for after the 5S launch.

 

[FeD.nL]

Really interested to see how the competition is gonna handle their fingerprint solutions. Since authentec, the company Apple bought, has the patent on the paste that looks like glass. Without it you cannot use the reader and since the competition can't use that solution we might see the swiping from other manifacturers.

 

[subrock]

You can opt for old school log in in addition to fingerprints, right? Or I could imagine widespread complain about people totally locked out of their phone because of smudge on their fingers or something like that.

yep, swipe to unlock will probably take you to the pinpad just like now.

edit: actually, maybe that would be a security issue. hmm.

 

[Canis lupus]

4K ones do, right?

Nope

 

[yogloo]

Considering apple also makes a ton of money from software and services, it makes their pricing seem even worse.

They are not a charity.

 

[mrkgoo]

Locking an app so it can only be opened if you have the right fingerprint would be pretty neat.

Too configurable for apple, but I can imagine them doing something more widespread like a parental mode.

Imagine an iPhone for your kid (eventually not a 5s now, lol), where if they used it they get the locked down version, but YOU can get the other features, such as system settings.


Maybe even multiple users/logins for iPads? It would be the apple way of doing things. No login screens, but built in user profiles and apps.

 

[GSG Flash]

I don't understand the point of the 5c, for $100 more you can upgrade to a much better 5s.

It's not as if the 5c is cheap off contract or even on contract.

 

[Rootbeer]

Since so many are obsessed with Android these days, hoping I can just walk into the store and get one on launch day no problems. That's what I did with my 4S.

 

[Marty Chinn]

I imagine they will come, if not already done and getting an update on ios7 launch day.

Unlike the built in ones, we're just seeing the betas!
And that said, find my iPhone was updated with new ios7 style icon.

Ya, but they're being used on the information page for the iPhone 5S. So it's kinda weird if they are going to change at launch. It just seems inconsistent

 

[wenis]

Nice upgrades, but not worth the update if you got the 5... I'll be waiting for the 6.

 

[Trojita]

It looks so tacky lol

 

[tsunami643]

I was hoping that the 5S would be my first smartphone (I'm still running with an LG Shine...) but the 32gb ended up being priced higher than I was hoping.

So what are the current Android competitors to the 5S? Galaxy S4 and HTC One?

 

[Marty Chinn]

I was hoping that the 5S would be my first smartphone (I'm still running with an LG Shine...) but the 32gb ended up being priced higher than I was hoping.

So what are the current Android competitors to the 5S? Galaxy S4 and HTC One?

If you're coming from an iPhone, I highly recommend an HTC One. It'll be a fairly smooth transition.

 

[commish]

I was hoping that the 5S would be my first smartphone (I'm still running with an LG Shine...) but the 32gb ended up being priced higher than I was hoping.

So what are the current Android competitors to the 5S? Galaxy S4 and HTC One?

I'd get the galaxy, pretty sweet.

 

[EleventhDoctor]

Now-where to sell my 4s?

 

[Toki767]

I was hoping that the 5S would be my first smartphone (I'm still running with an LG Shine...) but the 32gb ended up being priced higher than I was hoping.

So what are the current Android competitors to the 5S? Galaxy S4 and HTC One?

Galaxy S4, HTC One, LG G2, maybe Moto X, and the Xperia Z1 when that comes out.

 

[olympia]

Using a 4S and my contract is over soon. Get 5S or wait for 6?

5S.