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Gamecocks625
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LCfiner said:
I thought the iPhone 4 and the iPod touch 4th gen (in the picture referenced) had two different things on their screen. The iPhone had the home page while the iPod was viewing a website with a white background or something.
Do we have a comparison of the two next to each other viewing the same thing to get a better comparison?
Buckethead
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How am I supposed to focus on my work with that crappy icon peering into my soullll?
DeathbyVolcano
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wow, I never knew you could order stuff by chronological release. fucking awesome.
overthehill99
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I wish you could order stuff by artist/year in grid view. Anyway changing it to dark is awesome.
DeathbyVolcano
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how do you get dark view again?
brianjones
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giga said:
Ta-da.
large isn't very large though
i just stretched out the "now playing" window
Buckethead said:
eh i dont mind the icon but you can always hide your dock until you hover the mouse over it?
overthehill99
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Preferences > General > Grid View > DarkDeathbyVolcano said:
edgefusion said:
I didn't like it either. For a while I pushed the bar for that section all the way to the left, so all I saw was album art.
Until I figured out that I could go back to the good ol' List View. Back to normal for me.
For those that want more album art (for albums with less than five songs), check "Always show album art."
DeathbyVolcano
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yay for dark mode!
Similar sentiments across the web: Apple Blinks in the Living Room and Apple's trouble with TV.SteveMeister said:
Apple made an aggressive move with the $99 price, which piqued my interest, but the trade-offs aren't worth it for me. They cut costs by using the A4 chip but that means the device can't be hacked to run XBMC (and even if it could the chip can't handle SD avi content). I assumed that Apple would instead take travel along the iOS path which meant AirVideo and StreamToMe, MLB.tv, NBA League Pass, Justin.TV, TVUPlayer, Ustream, BBC iPlayer, Veetle etc. But that's not even on the horizon. So I'd be stuck with rented iTunes content as the only unique offering of the AppleTV. Meh.
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
DoctorWho said:
I have a Roku and the part you would be missing is the streaming of iTunes content to your TV. Kind of a big bullet point. Also, I do feel the Roku is much slower than even the current Atv. I have both and when changing "channels" on the Roku, there is a very noticeable pause.
The one thing you will miss by not getting Roku is some of the content. Roku offers MLB.tv, UFC, Revision 5, Radiotime and other channels of content. Though some is at an additional cost.
Flying_Phoenix
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SteveMeister said:
This. This. This. Hell it could have just been bundled with a remote, a game controller, and possibly a controller that acts like a bottom touchscreen ala 3DS.
Apple just dropped the ball on this one. They better hope that Google doesn't capitalize on their current advantage.
I guess Apple is taking it slowly but the longer they wait the more their risks increase. I agree that pricing it at $99 is nice but the trade offs aren't worth it. $129 with iOS 4, remote, proper game controller, and possibly an ipod touch controller.
badcrumble
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Fuck yessssssssssssss I have needed this!giga said:And whoever asked for a smart playlist for tracks without artwork.
Burger
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SteveMeister said:
I disagree. I'm not sure what the appeal of having apps on your TV is. Things like the Roku & Pop Box have apps, yet aren't revolutionizing everything. Do people want YouTube on their TV ?
Saying "Put the App Store on the Apple TV" is easy to say, but impossible to do. Current apps are touch apps, they require you to touch elements, move them, push them and so on. How do you do that on a TV that's 10 feet away ?
Oh right, use your iPhone. So then what is the TV for ? And even at $199 what comes in the box ? An iPod Touch ?
Sure, the Apple TV may get Apps at some point in the future, but they won't be touch based.
Kano on the Phone
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LOLFlying_Phoenix said:
"I think Apple dropped the ball by not releasing a Playstation."
Flying_Phoenix
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Kano On The Phone said:
I don't see how this is funny. I can easily see many games such as Zenonia, Duke Nukem, Chaos Rings, and Citadel having their touch buttons mapped to a controller. Attracts more consumers. Bigger market. More revenue. More profit.
Kano on the Phone
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God, you're right. Maybe if Apple listened to your glistening words of wisdom they'd finally start increasing their market share and turning a profit. I seriously have no idea how they've managed this long.Flying_Phoenix said:
sjobs@apple.com
Let us know how he reacts to his eyes being opened.
Chittagong
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Burger said:
iOS can very well work without touch screens. Sure, apps need to be redesigned and compiled, but this is no different from the iPad specific apps which feature split views.
I mean, come on now, just think about it. You could have Spotify and Last FM in your home stereos just like that. You could watch Hulu, Sky, BBC iPlayer, ESPN, abc, basically any studio could do their own app and even have billing integration inside it. CNN, Reuters, AlJazeera, all the news channels. Netflix, LOVEFiLM, Amazon, any rental or streaming service. Or creative media such as Creative Review, Shots... No integration needed, just an app. it's just such a huge missed opportunity to utterly and completely dominate the living room it's maddening.
*shrug* All the evidence all but confirmed that a camera was coming this year. We also got a microphone as well. That's what I mean by the important features (what else is left--GPS and a Sim card slot?). I tempered my expectations and figured we definitely wouldn't get the same quality camera as in the iPhone4 and no flash either. But the camera Apple stuck in there appears to be worthless. Even free feature phones fostered on my friends by the carriers come with higher rated megapixel lenses.Futureman said:
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Wake up Sheeple, your boring insistence that Obama is not a lizardman from Atlantis is wearing on my patience ð¤
Burger
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Chittagong said:
I agree, and I'm sure it will happen. Perhaps not the domination bit, but otherwise I'm with you.
But it would have to be a new, completely separate App Store, with new apps written from the ground up. What I'm saying is that you can't just put Angry Birds on your TV and expect it to somehow work.
Flying_Phoenix
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DjangoReinhardt
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iOS is fantastic for media apps and AppleTV could be a terrific shell for them in the living room. There's no reason why the apps couldn't incorporate a variant optimized for AppleTV - hell, most media apps wouldn't be any more difficult to operate right now with the remote than a given DVD menu. This would also allow for a variety of price models to coexist with iTunes under Apple's umbrella. Every media company could come to the party and sell things at whatever price they felt like, ideally. Of course, that's why we don't have this: Apple wants to push iTunes sales more than they want to push the App Store in this case. Unfortunately, the last few years have shown how little interest most consumers have in that model of living room iTunes box.Burger said:
On my 13 inch macbook pro the ppi is about 113. If you were to get the retina display on the the resolution would be something like 3840x2400. That would be glorious though.Futureman said:
I think the iPads resolution would end up being something like the resolution of the current iMac.Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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What makes people think Apple TV apps won't happen?
Apple's a small company, which people forget with every new thing they release that doesn't do everything in the world. It's taking them 6 extra months just to get multitasking in the iPad.
Apple's a small company, which people forget with every new thing they release that doesn't do everything in the world. It's taking them 6 extra months just to get multitasking in the iPad.
MilesWebber
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Give me an apple branded wrist strap for the Nano and I'M FUCKING SOLD.
Vanillalite
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Charred Greyface said:
THIS! I'm not asking for a beast of a camera or anything, but free phones have a better cam than the touch at this point.
SteveMeister
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Oh I think it is fairly likely that it will happen, but I think they should have done it with this new iteration of AppleTV. The new one just isn't that different from the competition.Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
ThanksVision
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I wish I could order albums by chronologically on my iPod Classic. Damn!
Thoughts about some things:
Apple TV: Building on iOS was likely for economies of scale, and I imagine the only apps for it will be extensions with partners: Hulu, Pandora, etc. I don't see an open app store type deal, but of course they have the ability for this if they want.
Ping: This is a really worthless because it's so tied into the iTunes store. Seriously, they should have simply copied the Zune Social as it tracks things such as what you are actually listening to, not what you liked or bought in the store. A real missed opportunity.
Apple TV: Building on iOS was likely for economies of scale, and I imagine the only apps for it will be extensions with partners: Hulu, Pandora, etc. I don't see an open app store type deal, but of course they have the ability for this if they want.
Ping: This is a really worthless because it's so tied into the iTunes store. Seriously, they should have simply copied the Zune Social as it tracks things such as what you are actually listening to, not what you liked or bought in the store. A real missed opportunity.
Eaten By A Grue
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One big thing to mention is that Roku has an Amazon OnDemand channel, which makes the lack of iTunes content a moot point (except for music). You can watch your Amazon rentals and purchases of TV shows and movies on it.dskillzhtown said:
Also I would not consider the Roku slow(in terms of hardware power). Most of the channels are tied to the interwebs so the speed of your connection is a big determining factor to the responsiveness of channels.
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