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Article on Disney's Pixar-sequel-making studio + Toy Story 3 news

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Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Here's a really great article on Disney's new studio that will be churning out Pixar sequels.

Some choice quotes:
David Stainton said:
"We're not chasing DreamWorks, we're not chasing Sony, we're not chasing Pixar," he said. "We're doing it our way, bringing that great tradition of storytelling that we developed over 70 years into the digital world."
Wow, sounds great man. Except for this little tiny factoid...
As Robert Iger, the newly named chief executive of Walt Disney Co., seeks to repair the company's fractured relationship with Pixar Animation Studios, he faces a big obstacle: Pixaren't.

That's what animators have dubbed a nondescript white warehouse in Glendale that Disney recently transformed into a factory to produce sequels to Pixar movies, including "Toy Story," "Finding Nemo" and "Monsters, Inc."
The new Pixar-sequel unit, housed next door to rival DreamWorks Animation SKG Inc. and just minutes from Disney's main studio lot in Burbank, intends to make one sequel a year, each costing less than $100 million, sources said.
In the last month, this person added, about 40 screenwriters have pitched Disney executives with sequel ideas for "Finding Nemo" and "Monsters, Inc."
"Not chasing Pixar" my ass!

To make matters worse, the producer of Shark Tale has been hired as the creative affairs executive.

As for Toy Story 3, which currently has 40 people working on it which will swell to 250 by next year when production really gets rolling, will involve Buzz Lightyear being recalled to his originating factory in Taiwan. Another proposed script that was well received is tentatively planned for Toy Story 4 as well.

*sigh* I really, really feel for John Lasseter, Andrew Stanton, Peter Docter, and all the other people who have to sit by and watch Disney create sequels to their work for the sole purpose of making money. It wasn't creative impetus that started this, just the knowledge the any of Pixar's titles with a 2, 3 or 4 following them will make big cash. That's not to say these films can't possibly be any good, but well, they're tainted by the circumstances surrounding their production.
 

olimario

Banned
Pixar... You need to escape... This is a BAD relationship. What kind of friend takes your amazing work and butchers it?
 

BuddyC

Member
I just wish they'd follow the original concept for Toy Story 3. The ending was such a perfect close for the trilogy.
 

Memles

Member
I'm torn...I want sequels to the Pixar films, because I love the characters, but I would want Pixar to make them, but I also want there to be new, original stuff from Pixar.

But, I cannot allow for Disney to do this without becoming very, very angry. I stab at thee, Disney. You've got all sorts of interesting Computer Animated concepts to be released in the next few years, don't tarnish these franchises.
 

Pachinko

Member
As long as Disney sells rights to incredibles to Brad Bird so we can see a pixar/bird built sequel then I don't care. Having Rewateched The Incredibles last night I must say its one of my all time favorite movies. It's only flaw is the underuntilization of Frozone.
 

Desperado

Member
Oh god....if disney makes the sequel to The Incredibles...ahhhh

Pachinko said:
As long as Disney sells rights to incredibles to Brad Bird so we can see a pixar/bird built sequel then I don't care. Having Rewateched The Incredibles last night I must say its one of my all time favorite movies. It's only flaw is the underuntilization of Frozone.

i agree totally.
 

miyuru

Member
IMO The Incredibles was the worst movie out of the bunch so far. Pretty shallow, simple/stupid movie. And I WANTED to see it, I'm not hating, I was hyped for it! :(

I can't wait for "Buzz Goes to Taiwan" though! :p
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Memles said:
But, I cannot allow for Disney to do this without becoming very, very angry. I stab at thee, Disney. You've got all sorts of interesting Computer Animated concepts to be released in the next few years, don't tarnish these franchises.
Yeah, quite honestly some of Disney's upcoming original digital films sound rather cool. I love the concept art for Fraidy Cat, American Dog and Rapunzel Unbraided*. The story concepts for those first two sound pretty promising as well; more info on those below. I've heard positive things about the screened footage of Chicken Little, and supposedly A Day With Wilbur Robinson* is actually somewhat inspired. I'm hoping Disney manages to pull off some creative hits with these.

[edit: these are all planned as CG features]

*Fraidy Cat is a the story of "a chubby housecat with frayed nerves that is torn off his comfy couch and dropped smack dab in the middle of a Hitchcockian thriller when he is accused of a crime he didn't commit."

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American Dog is from the creator of Lilo and Stitch about "twisted story of a canine TV star who finds himself stranded in the most forsaken hundred miles of the Nevada with an oversize bunny and a testy cat."

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Rapunzel Unbraided is either Disney's triumphant return to fairy tales or a spoof of the genre. I've read many conflicting reports. Here's an animated logo that was done for it a while ago.

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A Day With Wilbur Robinson (based on a novel): Boy genius Wilbur Robinson invents a machine that recovers forgotten memories, and inadvertently travels forward in time, where he encounters a family whose survival depends on his ingenuity.

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If only Disney could put forth all their effort in more original properties like these rather than messing with Pixar's franchises. Of course, I thought several of Disney's recent films sounded great and had awesome concept and final art but ended up being weak (Atlantis, Treasure Planet), but I love Disney and I remain optimistic.
 

BuddyC

Member
miyuru said:
IMO The Incredibles was the worst movie out of the bunch so far. Pretty shallow, simple/stupid movie. And I WANTED to see it, I'm not hating, I was hyped for it! :(

I can't wait for "Buzz Goes to Taiwan" though! :p

Wow. Incredibles is, by far, my favorite Pixar movie to date. Now Finding Nemo, there's the weakest link.
 

Memles

Member
BuddyC said:
Wow. Incredibles is, by far, my favorite Pixar movie to date. Now Finding Nemo, there's the weakest link.

IMO The Incredibles was the worst movie out of the bunch so far. Pretty shallow, simple/stupid movie. And I WANTED to see it, I'm not hating, I was hyped for it! :(

You're both so wrong. Although two very different films, both are spectacular filmmaking. Personal taste may dictate your dislike of either film, but there is no way that they are examples of poor filmmaking. The story and characters in both films are incredibly well-developed and in general both films are spectacular. Finding Nemo is more of a kid's film, but I also think it is one of the best of all time. Stop hatin', both of you, and just declar "Pixar is Awesome" and leave it at that without picking on one particular film.

Yeah, Dan, that's what I mean. There are five films that Disney have that look DIFFERENT in terms of story, from a Disney perspective. So far, there's no CG features that are of the Brother Bear/Lion King/Pocahontas mold of epic, sweeping tales and nothing more. Rapunzel is the closest film, but the concept art and concept is amazing on that. I will follow Chris Sanders to the end of the Earth after Lilo and Stitch (Disney, make with my Special Edition DVD already. You released it in Australia, it's done, release it! NOW!), and the others seem like unique concepts that have potential.

Why do they need Pixar's properties? Purely because they're cash cows. And cashing in is NOT filmmaking.
 

BuddyC

Member
Memles said:
You're both so wrong. Although two very different films, both are spectacular filmmaking. Personal taste may dictate your dislike of either film, but there is no way that they are examples of poor filmmaking. The story and characters in both films are incredibly well-developed and in general both films are spectacular. Finding Nemo is more of a kid's film, but I also think it is one of the best of all time. Stop hatin', both of you, and just declar "Pixar is Awesome" and leave it at that without picking on one particular film.
Eh?

I never said it was an example of poor filmmaking, just that it was the weakest link. Out of all the Pixar films out, Finding Nemo is the one I would least like to watch again.

AWESOME IS PIXAR

PIXAR IS AWESOME
 

speedpop

Has problems recognising girls
I enjoyed the shit out of every Pixar film.

American Dog looks cool, and knowing that the creator of Lilo & Stitch (which IMO was Disney's next best thing after Lion King) is behind it has made me look forward to it ever since those screenies first hit.
 
Every film Pixar has made has been near perfect. Arguing over which is better is pretty pointles. Like Memles says, they are shining examples of filmmaking brilliance.

I can punish PDI for their absolute sell out mentality. Shark Tale was hard to watch with all the corporate crap in it. It looked gorgeous for the most part but my god was it ever a 1.5 hour long commercial.
 

Memles

Member
BuddyC said:
Eh?

I never said it was an example of poor filmmaking, just that it was the weakest link. Out of all the Pixar films out, Finding Nemo is the one I would least like to watch again.

AWESOME IS PIXAR

PIXAR IS AWESOME

Yeah, I was a little generalizing...I just can't really justify saying which of the Pixar films I enjoyed the least, because it's both difficult and unfair. Why focus on which of 6 films you enjoyed the least when all are really, really good? I was snippy, though, apologies.

Oh, and Lilo and Stitch is, indeed, the best thing Disney has done since The Lion King. FACT.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Lilo and Stitch was pretty great, but I wish it had foregone some of the crazy bounty hunting stuff. I just thought that kind of detracted from the natural difficulties Stitch had with fitting in anyway. Why give him problems beyond his control (the interference of the bounty hunters) when his own natural issues were the most compelling conflicts? I was also a bit miffed at the end when everything was fully explained to every character and then it all worked out for everyone. It's still probably Disney's best since The Lion King, but I wish it had went even further. There were definite moments of brilliance though.

Oh, and a press release was just issued stating that The Incredibles sold 5 million units on day one. Not too shabby at all...
 

Memles

Member
Dan said:
Lilo and Stitch was pretty great, but I wish it had foregone some of the crazy bounty hunting stuff. I just thought that kind of detracted from the natural difficulties Stitch had with fitting in anyway. Why give him problems beyond his control (the interference of the bounty hunters) when his own natural issues were the most compelling conflicts? I was also a bit miffed at the end when everything was fully explained to every character and then it all worked out for everyone. It's still probably Disney's best since The Lion King, but I wish it had went even further. There were definite moments of brilliance though.

Oh, and a press release was just issued stating that The Incredibles sold 5 million units on day one. Not too shabby at all...

It would have been too easy without the whole bount hunter thing. I think it was necessary in order to provide urgency. I mean, otherwise there would be no real threat, and while there is definitely conflict I don't think there was anything to move the plot along. It was necessary for the purpose of the story, if not perhaps from a character standpoint.

It all ended a little too happily, but I think that it wasn't too happy. I mean, yeah, everything was explained and the morals of the story were laid out, but I never felt it was preachy. All of the characters seemed so real and full that even the heavy handed Ohana stuff didn't stick out like a sore thumb, which it would have in a lesser film.

Good news on The Incredibles...sales should stay strong leading up to Easter.
 

Triumph

Banned
Pixar needs to get the fuck away from Disney. Seriously. Pixar's got all the juice, what the fuck do they need Disney for anymore?
 

Memles

Member
Raoul Duke said:
Pixar needs to get the fuck away from Disney. Seriously. Pixar's got all the juice, what the fuck do they need Disney for anymore?
Distribution. It's the reason that they sell so many tickets and sell so many DVDs. Disney is too good at distributing the films to leave them so quickly.
 

Triumph

Banned
Memles said:
Distribution. It's the reason that they sell so many tickets and sell so many DVDs. Disney is too good at distributing the films to leave them so quickly.
You know, I'm thinking that Warner Bros. or Universal or someone could figure out how to do it, since a Pixar film is basically a license to print cash.
 

jett

D-Member
This is probably going to tarnish Pixar's reputation. Not that I particularly care, I don't find their movies as spectacular as some people on this forum do. :p
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
temp said:
What the hell? I thought Pixar was leaving Disney after Cars.
This is where I jump in.

Disney and Pixar's current deal is over after Cars, yes. However, under that current deal Disney owns all of those feature films and has the rights to create sequels, put those characters in its theme parks, etc. Disney can technically can do whatever it wants with the characters of Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Monster's Inc, Finding Nemo, The Incredibles and Cars. Apparently that deal does grant Pixar some royalties, but obviously no creative control or any major profits.

In previous years Disney has played nice, getting permission and creative assistance when doing theme park rides, toys, and all that stuff. You know, why piss of these guys unnecessarily? Pixar was making Disney a fortune already. Unfortunately, Jobs and Eisner had a huge falling out, partially due to the whole controversy about Toy Story 2 not fitting into that deal, so they sorta squeezed an extra Pixar film out of the studio. When Pixar has released a film, its revenue covers about half of Disney's total year. That's one film, half of Disney's total revenue from theatrical releases. Pixar outgrew Disney pretty damned fast. Naturally, Jobs wants a better deal, one way or another. He wants Pixar to regain complete control of all its films and only pay Disney a small distribution fee. Obviously, this is the opposite of what Disney wants, and that's where the conflict lies. It's a battle of wills now, and with Disney blatantly exploiting the Pixar properties, there's a ton of bad blood between them.

I think I lost my train of thought somewhere in there...
 

temp

posting on contract only
Dan said:
This is where I jump in.

Disney and Pixar's current deal is over after Cars, yes. However, under that current deal Disney owns all of those feature films and has the rights to create sequels, put those characters in its theme parks, etc. Disney can technically can do whatever it wants with the characters of Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Monster's Inc, Finding Nemo, The Incredibles and Cars. Apparently that deal does grant Pixar some royalties, but obviously no creative control or any major profits.

In previous years Disney has played nice, getting permission and creative assistance when doing theme park rides, toys, and all that stuff. You know, why piss of these guys unnecessarily? Pixar was making Disney a fortune already. Unfortunately, Jobs and Eisner had a huge falling out, partially due to the whole controversy about Toy Story 2 not fitting into that deal, so they sorta squeezed an extra Pixar film out of the studio. When Pixar has released a film, its revenue covers about half of Disney's total year. That's one film, half of Disney's total revenue from theatrical releases. Pixar outgrew Disney pretty damned fast. Naturally, Jobs wants a better deal, one way or another. He wants Pixar to regain complete control of all its films and only pay Disney a small distribution fee. Obviously, this is the opposite of what Disney wants, and that's where the conflict lies. It's a battle of wills now, and with Disney blatantly exploiting the Pixar properties, there's a ton of bad blood between them.

I think I lost my train of thought somewhere in there...
Sorry buddy, I was talking to

Raoul Duke said:
Pixar needs to get the fuck away from Disney. Seriously. Pixar's got all the juice, what the fuck do they need Disney for anymore?
Memles said:
Distribution. It's the reason that they sell so many tickets and sell so many DVDs. Disney is too good at distributing the films to leave them so quickly.
Raoul Duke said:
You know, I'm thinking that Warner Bros. or Universal or someone could figure out how to do it, since a Pixar film is basically a license to print cash.

My fault.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Well, until or if Pixar signs a distribution deal with a studio other than Disney or conclusively denounces a future Disney deal, it's worth talking about their relationship. As of now Steve Jobs is still vaguely open to a future deal given Disney's strong distribution practices, especially now that they've announced their next CEO. So, it's really not definite that Pixar is leaving Disney's side.
 

Lil' Dice

Banned
I've seen Chicken Little in it's current incarnation, it SUCKS.
The first 20 minutes are rather charming, after that, it takes a huge shit on itself.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Hmm, that's unfortunate although I'm not personally surprised after that trailer. I'd read some good things but yeah, that trailer made the movie look like a big budget version of something that would be more appropriate airing in the afternoon on the Disney Channel.

Here's hoping that one, or more preferably, of Disney's upcoming projects turn out great. Snow White was the first movie I saw in theaters, and I've been in love ever since, so it'd be awesome to see a return to form, at least a significant improvement over recent efforts.
 

FoneBone

Member
Dan said:
Hmm, that's unfortunate although I'm not personally surprised after that trailer. I'd read some good things but yeah, that trailer made the movie look like a big budget version of something that would be more appropriate airing in the afternoon on the Disney Channel.
Or maybe Nickelodeon -- the trailer seemed reminiscent of Jimmy Neutron with talking animals.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Hmm, now that you mention it, yes, from the ads I saw for the Jimmy Neutron movie I'd say there are definite similarities. Not exactly good positive similarities either.
 

boutrosinit

Street Fighter IV World Champion
BuddyC said:
Wow. Incredibles is, by far, my favorite Pixar movie to date. Now Finding Nemo, there's the weakest link.


I'm with Jesus on this one, though I loved Finding Nemo to. IMO, they got better and better with each film. If anything I find the Toy Story flicks to be the weakest. Just goes to show how broad people's opinions can be when it comes to flicks such as these.
 

Odnetnin

Banned
GODAWFUL news. The reasons why Pixar features are great isn't so much the CG but the story telling. This is awful news and well.. FUCK DISNEY.

Urgh

And yes, Incredibles > Nemo. I walked out of Nemo not feeling as though I'd seen a GREAT film. Incredibles however. OH SHIT. Awesome
 
Right now, the public sees a new Pixar movie as an "event" that only happens every year or two. If Disney starts releasing one "Pixaren't" sequel every year, the public will still associate those IPs with the Pixar name. The result will be that the Pixar name itself will become devalued, even if they quit Disney.
 

Memles

Member
Father_Brain said:
Right now, the public sees a new Pixar movie as an "event" that only happens every year or two. If Disney starts releasing one "Pixaren't" sequel every year, the public will still associate those IPs with the Pixar name. The result will be that the Pixar name itself will become devalued, even if they quit Disney.

It'll be 2008 before they finish even ONE of them, so Pixar will have at least 2 years to distance itself from Disney...I don't think they're that terrible business wise, but it's the principle more than anything.
 

Memles

Member
Shig said:
Emperor's New Groove > Lilo & Stitch.

In terms of comedy? Agreed. But as an overall film, Lilo and Stitch's character and story elevate it above in terms of quality.

But Emperor's New Groove would be second for me. The film is just a nonstop comedy, no stupid songs (Tom Jones is NOT stupid) and in general deserve better than its reception.
 

Amir0x

Banned
Agent Dormer said:
If they ruin The Incredibles with a crappy sequel, so help me God...

Oh, well, you'll love this! Incredibles sequel IS in the works!





Cross-posted from my post in another forum:

So, guys, you like Pixar movies?

So did I.

They lost Miramax and the Weinsteins. So what's next? Well, Disney announced plans to make a sequel to Incredibles, Finding Nemo, Finding Nemo, Monsters Inc. and Cars.

So what's bad about this? Disney is going to go ahead with these sequels with or without Pixar, since they own the rights to them. With Iger taking over for Eisner (who criticized Finding Nemo), analysts are speculating that it may help smoothe things over with Pixar.

But it seems that this "back-up" plan may indicate that Disney is planning for such a time when Pixar is not around to provide that solid support. They have already started post-Pixar plans, with Disney creating its own in-house computer animation division and releasing "Chicken Little". So does this mean this is the house we'll see this sequels from?

[url=http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=173223]Rottentomatoes[/url] said:
"CNN/Money brings news of Disney's post-Pixar plans should the two studios end up parting ways. That Robert Iger was recently announced as successor to Disney CEO Michael Eisner could certainly help to smooth things out between Pixar and the Mouse House -- but that's not preventing Disney from making alternate plans.

"The company, which owns the rights to the Pixar library, has announced plans for a "Toy Story 3" and plans to roll out sequels to "Finding Nemo," "Monsters Inc.," "The Incredibles" as well as "Cars." Let's hope Mr. Iger and Pixar CEO Steve Jobs can reach an arrangement soon; if these sequels do become a reality, it's best to have the Pixar crew running the show."

[url=http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/14/news/fortune500/disney_pixar/index.htm?cnn=yes]CNN[/url] said:
NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - With Walt Disney Co.'s ABC network on the rebound and its theme parks once again drawing hordes of thrill-seekers, incoming CEO Robert Iger has one key item on his immediate to-do list: To buttress a movie division that's facing the loss of two major ventures.

One of the losses -- the decade-long reign of Bob and Harvey Weinstein at Miramax Film, owned by Disney (Research) -- is all but guaranteed. After many months of tumultuous wrangling over terms of their exit, the Weinsteins are expected later this year to leave Disney and the acclaimed, but costly studio they founded in 1979 and sold to Disney for $80 million more than a decade ago.

The status of the other venture -- a lengthy and hugely lucrative co-production and distribution deal with Pixar Animation Studios -- is far less certain. Pixar Animation CEO Steve Jobs, who called off negotiations over a new contract after sparring with outgoing Disney head Michael Eisner, told analysts last month that he was waiting until Disney picked a new CEO before deciding what to do about a new distribution partner.

For Jobs, Sunday's announcement that Iger will replace Eisner as head of the world's second-largest media company means "it's fish or cut bait time," Dennis McAlpine, an independent media analyst, said Sunday.

As for Iger, "the first thing he's going to have to do is reconcile the agreement with Pixar (Research): either keep them or let them get away," added McAlpine.

Richard Greenfield, an analyst with Fulcrum Global Partners, worried in a note sent to clients Sunday that Iger will feel pressure to cut a new deal with Pixar, but under terms that could be less-favorable to Disney, "as an early sign of his capabilities as CEO."

A long and profitable marriage

Pixar and Disney first teamed in 1991 and, under a production deal whereby they split costs and profits, have churned out six blockbuster animation films that together have grossed $3.2 billion at the worldwide box office. One of them, "Finding Nemo," is the 10th highest-grossing film ever, and another, "The Incredibles," just won an Oscar for best animation film of the year.

Pixar and Disney have one more film to release -- "Cars," due out in 2006 -- before their current contract officially expires. Talks over a new deal ended abruptly more than a year ago after Jobs walked away from the negotiating table in part because of his dislike for Eisner. Jobs, who felt that Pixar had proved itself, wanted to pay Disney a lower distribution fee and did not want to share the profits any longer.

Since the talks broke off in January 2004, however, speculation has been rampant within the industry and on Wall Street about whether the two studios would renew discussions and strike a new deal. Those rumors were further fueled last fall when Eisner, under fire from shareholders upset about Disney's slow growth in recent years, said he would resign. On Sunday, Eisner said he would leave the CEO post this September and quit as a Disney director next year.

This much is clear: the view among some analysts is that Disney needs Pixar more than Pixar needs Disney.

That's especially so since Disney is about to lose the Weinsteins, the creative minds behind a string of Oscar-winning films including "Shakespeare in Love" and "Chicago." With the exception of "The Incredibles" and "National Treasure," Disney had a disappointing 2004 at the box office.

It's not known whether Iger, a veteran of Disney's ABC television unit, and Jobs have discussed any deal -- or whether they even like each other. Both companies have moved forward with post-separation plans. Disney is building its own in-house computer animation division, which faces its first big test with "Chicken Little," due out in November.

The company, which owns the rights to the Pixar library, has announced plans for a "Toy Story 3" and plans to roll out sequels to "Finding Nemo," "Monsters," "The Incredibles" as well as "Cars."

Jobs, for his part, has said Time Warner (Research)'s Warner Bros., News Corp. (Research)'s Twentieth Century Fox and Sony Corp. (Research)'s Sony Pictures all have the global distribution network to meet Pixar's needs. Time Warner is the parent of CNN/Money.

Speaking to analysts in February, Jobs said Pixar had held off on signing a new distribution deal because of the CEO vacancy not just at Disney but also at a few major Hollywood studios, including Paramount Motion Picture Group. Paramount, owned by Viacom (Research), tapped talent agent Brad Grey as its new head in January.

Among the rumored candidates for the Disney job were Peter Chernin, the president of Fox Entertainment, and Jeffrey Bewkes, chairman of Time Warner's Entertainment & Networks Group.

"We clearly have slowed down the process of picking a new partner to see how this (Hollywood) game of musical chairs will end and who the new CEO of Disney will be," Jobs said last month.

Looks like that game is now over.


But it gets worse.


You know who is going to direct TOY STORY 3? You guys are going to love this!

Bradley Raymond! I know... who the fuck is he, right? Right. He directed such timeless classic as "The Lion King 1 1/2" and "The Hunchback of Notre Dame 2".

[url=http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=173099]Rottentomatoes[/url] said:
"Thanks to ComingSoon.net for sharing this 'Business of Animation' blog entry and some big-time cartoon news. Seems the Mouse House has tagged director Bradley Raymond ("The Lion King 1 1/2," "The Hunchback of Notre Dame 2") to helm the Pixar-free "Toy Story 3."

First-time screenwriter Jared Stern is also on board, working on a premise that apparently takes the toys out on the road. And no, "Toy Story 3" is not pegged for a direct-to-video release, so let's all keep our fingers crossed on this project."


I know what you guys are thinking. "What about the fucking Incredibles? Please don't sully that movies good name!"

Well, rest a little easier. We don't know much about that, except that Brad Bird said he wants to work on something else but that later on he wouldn't mind coming back to "these guys" if the right project came about.

[url=http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=173186]Rottentomatoes[/url] said:
"FilmFocus caught up with the director of last year's Oscar-winning animation "The Incredibles," Brad Bird, to talk about his plans for a sequel.

"Oh man," he said, "I don't know... I think I want to do something else for a little bit but I would love to return to these guys if the right project came about, because I love these characters. I have ideas that I didn't get to use in this movie that are good ideas."

Bird also told the website that he didn't think "Toy Story 3" would work without the original team producing it, saying, "They might be saying they'd do that, but it wouldn't be a good move for anybody because it would surely disappoint people and I think that Disney of all people are aware of how hard these films are to make and I think that deep down they respect that."

The director also talked about the state of CG animation in movies, "A lot more of these films are getting made," he said, "and that's going to be good news in some ways and bad news in others. I think that some people feel that all you need to do is take a bad idea and put it through a computer and it's going to become a good idea. I think those people are in for a rude awakening."

At least he realizes how stupid it is to make Toy Story 3 without Pixar!


Ok, discuss the horrific implications.
 

temp

posting on contract only
Amir0x said:
You know who is going to direct TOY STORY 3? You guys are going to love this!

Bradley Raymond! I know... who the fuck is he, right? Right. He directed such timeless classic as "The Lion King 1 1/2" and "The Hunchback of Notre Dame 2".
Nooooo
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
I hardly think that's confirmation of an Incredibles sequel being actively worked on. Plans? Sure, maybe to the extent that Disney just built a studio with the purpose of making sequels to all of Pixar's properties, but other than that, I don't think there's anything to fear there. Only Toy Story, Monster's Inc and Finding Nemo sequels are confirmed to have active preproduction and/or scripts being written. This studio's only big enough for one film a year beginning in 2008 anyway. It can't handle sequels to ALL of the properties at once.

Also, that CNN article has some wrong information. The studio doing Toy Story 3 and Chicken Little is not the same. The Pixar-sequel studio has only been constructed within the last year or so and they only just started looking for the majority of its future employees. Obviously Chicken Little and Disney's other original CG features have been in production elsewhere for quite some time.

Oh, and Disney isn't losing Miramax, just the Weinsteins and probably some other personnel.
 
jett said:
This is probably going to tarnish Pixar's reputation. Not that I particularly care, I don't find their movies as spectacular as some people on this forum do. :p
Normally I'd agree, but The Incredibles more than lives up to the hype. To quote that kid in the movie, it's "TOTALLY WICKED!"

And yeah, no Bird = no Incredibles 2 for me.
 

Amir0x

Banned
Prince of Space said:
Normally I'd agree, but The Incredibles more than lives up to the hype. To quote that kid in the movie, it's "TOTALLY WICKED!"

And yeah, no Bird = no Incredibles 2 for me.

Brad Bird is my hero.
 

Shinobi

Member
Which studio made Dinosaur for Disney? Figures for that movie BTW were $138 million domestic, $348 million worldwide.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Here's a tip - don't watch them.

I have a highly tuned 'Disney Sequel' filter, that calmly mosaics out things like Lion King 1 1/2 as I scan the shelves. They just don't register anymore. I'll do the same with Toy Story 33 1/3.


Have Pixar resigned with Disney BTW? I think thats the best distribution route for them - all they need to do is change the contract so that Pixar retain rights to all their properties. Then if Disney poke them with a big enough money stick, at least the straight-to-DVD sequel might be good.
 
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