Assange: WikiLeaks developed algorithm to better weaponize Podesta's hacked emails

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Assange told me that in mid-September, a week or two before he began publishing the e-mails, he devised a way to weaponize the information. If his releases followed a predictable pattern, he reasoned, Clinton’s campaign would be able to prepare. So he worked out an algorithm, which he called the Stochastic Terminator, to help staff members select e-mails for each day’s release. He told me that the algorithm was built on a random-number generator, modified by mathematical weights that reflected the pattern of the news cycle in a typical week. By introducing randomness into the process, he hoped to make it impossible for the Clinton war room “to adjust to the problem, to spin, to create antidote news beforehand.”

“Imagine it this way,” Assange told me. “The WikiLeaks tank is coming down the road. You can’t tell when it got on the road, when it is going to get off, how fast it is going, how big it is—because it has a decoy exterior. They know that there are decoy parameters because I say it, and so you never know what’s a decoy and what is not. It kind of paralyzes their thinking.” He recalled how a Clinton supporter noted that there were no Podesta e-mails later than March 25th. “We said, ‘Well spotted, something to look forward to!’ And this just spread around that there was a next phase.”

For a few minutes, Assange spoke proudly about the way he often bent the truth. He seemed unconcerned that such tactics might harm his credibility. “It could become an issue, but what is it?” he told me. “So we can’t address an irritating question as much as we can offer protection for our publications? The advantage is greater to be a bit crafty—no, it’s not just being crafty. It comes, really, from what M.I.5 did in World War Two.” He described a British operation to use a corpse dressed in a Royal Marines uniform as a decoy, disguising the real target of an invasion. “They stuffed secret information in his pockets, and had him wash up on the coast of Spain, and then they made it clear to the Germans that this was what they were doing. So the Germans went from becoming fooled in one instance to doubting every instance.”
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http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/08/21/julian-assange-a-man-without-a-country

So much for just getting "the truth" out.
 
As if there was any doubt

Man I knew a guy that believed this asshole and I had to explain that this fuck was an anarchist that didnt give a fuck about the well being of anyone but himself

But lol wikileaks is like a buglamp for people looking for conspiracy theories to blame their problems on
 
From the sound of it, this was less about stopping the Clinton campaign from preparing and more about how to get the most attention for each release.
 
He told me that the algorithm was built on a random-number generator, modified by mathematical weights that reflected the pattern of the news cycle in a typical week.
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This sounds like complete bullshit. I bet they just picked emails randomly.
 
Toxi said:
From the sound of it, this was less about stopping the Clinton campaign from preparing and more about how to get the most attention for each release.
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I mean, he has said this. Assange believed that Trump "would not be permitted" to win the election.
 
Dopus said:
I mean, he has said this. Assange believed that Trump "would not be permitted" to win the election.
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Because the Russian narrative was supposed to be that the primaries and general were both rigged for Clinton. They didn't expect to actually win.
 
Friendly reminder that Assange called the NYT "the enemy" when giving public advice to Donny Jr over the email fiasco.

He's no longer trying to hide what he is, he must be pretty happy with the job he's done.
 
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Yeah, it's been a while since Julian Assange has been anything but a terrible human being.

Or maybe he was all along, who knows any more.
 
OG Shaka Zulu said:
What prompted Assange's heel turn? Less than a decade ago Fox News called for his assassination and now he's Hannity's darling.
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Not really a heel turn.

Republicans hated him because he revealed their corruption/damaging info, while Dems loved him for doing it.

Dems hate him because he revealed their corruption/damaging info, now Republicans love him for it.

If he was to reveal a bunch of emails that pushed Trump out of office... expect both sides to do a 180 again.
 
Ozigizo said:
Can't wait for the wikileaks stans if they're still around.

"B-but they've never released false information!"
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Well, they havent. Maybe we dont like the info they release, how they release it and how they help to further pro-Russia narratives, but they have yet to release false claims.
 
Taker666 said:
Not really a heel turn.

Republicans hated him because he revealed their corruption/damaging info, while Dems loved him for doing it.

Dems hate him because he revealed their corruption/damaging info, now Republicans love him for it.

If he was to reveal a bunch of emails that pushed Trump out of office... expect both sides to do a 180 again.
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Sure. both sides you say?
 
Taker666 said:
Not really a heel turn.

Republicans hated him because he revealed their corruption/damaging info, while Dems loved him for doing it.

Dems hate him because he revealed their corruption/damaging info, now Republicans love him for it.

If he was to reveal a bunch of emails that pushed Trump out of office... expect both sides to do a 180 again.
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I'd like to think the rather recent revelation that he's an active participant in a Russian misinformation campaign would probably preclude MOST people from cherishing his poisonous gifts in the future.
 
That's sounds highly sophisticated and incredibly useless. Content doesn't matter if you can't propagate it efficiently. And he didn't stand a chance since the Clinton campaign had full control of the media coverage. What little control the Clinton Campaign didn't have went to whatever Trump said that day.

That is why I think people give WikiLeaks and Russia to much credit for their propaganda efforts.
 
MAB128 said:
That's sounds highly sophisticated and incredibly useless. Content doesn't matter if you can't propagate it efficiently. And he didn't stand a chance since the Clinton campaign had full control of the media coverage. What little control the Clinton Campaign didn't have went to whatever Trump said that day.

That is why I think people give WikiLeaks and Russia to much credit for their propaganda efforts.
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Lmao, I'm sure the hours of uninterrupted Trump rallies and full screens of Trump's empty podiums were all in Clinton's control.

Also this wasn't meant for media it was pushed out by bots to social media, likely targeted, to groups to get the fake news out to social groups instead of vetted by media outlets.
 
MAB128 said:
That's sounds highly sophisticated and incredibly useless. Content doesn't matter if you can't propagate it efficiently. And he didn't stand a chance since the Clinton campaign had full control of the media coverage. What little control the Clinton Campaign didn't have went to whatever Trump said that day.

That is why I think people give WikiLeaks and Russia to much credit for their propaganda efforts.
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That reminds me, how are things going on Earth 2?
 
Taker666 said:
Not really a heel turn.

Republicans hated him because he revealed their corruption/damaging info, while Dems loved him for doing it.

Dems hate him because he revealed their corruption/damaging info, now Republicans love him for it.

If he was to reveal a bunch of emails that pushed Trump out of office... expect both sides to do a 180 again.
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What gross fucking nonsense.
 
All I needed to know about wiki leaks was them parroting Russia talking points during the crimean invasiom and Russia shooting down that passenger plane.
 
Melkr_ said:
Well, they havent. Maybe we dont like the info they release, how they release it and how they help to further pro-Russia narratives, but they have yet to release false claims.
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Yes, they just editorialize and weaponize information so that people interpret and reach the conclusions they want.

That's not technically a lie, so go you.

Mate, have you no decency left? You, with your red lines and months of complaints about Clinton lies, defending this? Have you no shame?


Besides, you know you are wrong. You know they released false information during the invasion of Crimea.
 
hawk2025 said:
Yes, they just editorialize and weaponize information so that people interpret and reach the conclusions they want.

That's not technically a lie, so go you.

Mate, have you no decency left? You, with your red lines and months of complaints about Clinton lies, defending this? Have you no shame?
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He had a Jill Stein avatar up for awhile last year
 
Liars say lots of things. I don't believe him. We're all still waiting for him to reveal how the primaries were rigged.
 
MAB128 said:
That's sounds highly sophisticated and incredibly useless. Content doesn't matter if you can't propagate it efficiently. And he didn't stand a chance since the Clinton campaign had full control of the media coverage. What little control the Clinton Campaign didn't have went to whatever Trump said that day.

That is why I think people give WikiLeaks and Russia to much credit for their propaganda efforts.
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🤔
 
Horns said:
Liars say lots of things. I don't believe him. We're all still waiting for him to reveal how the primaries were rigged.
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I am sure it will be the usual shit:

-Independents were unfairly treated
-"Low information voters" meaning minorities were too dumb to recognize any name other than Clinton
-South should not matter
 
hawk2025 said:
Yes, they just editorialize and weaponize information so that people interpret and reach the conclusions they want.

That's not technically a lie, so go you.

Mate, have you no decency left? You, with your red lines and months of complaints about Clinton lies, defending this? Have you no shame?


Besides, you know you are wrong. You know they released false information during the invasion of Crimea.
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I am not defending Assange. Or pizzagaters Wikileaks. Just made a judgement regarding the info they have exposed, as editorialized as it is.

No need to get personal.

jack_package_200 said:
He had a Jill Stein avatar up for awhile last year
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And you have an anime avatar. Boom! #FeelTheStain
 
Melkr_ said:
Well, they havent. Maybe we dont like the info they release, how they release it and how they help to further pro-Russia narratives, but they have yet to release false claims.
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Heh. "I wasn't happy that Wikileaks released those nudes of me a week before the election, but they weren't fake, so I guess I'm the asshole for being upset about it."
 
Dubbedinenglish said:
Lmao, I'm sure the hours of uninterrupted Trump rallies and full screens of Trump's empty podiums were all in Clinton's control.

Also this wasn't meant for media it was pushed out by bots to social media, likely targeted, to groups to get the fake news out to social groups instead of vetted by media outlets.
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That's what campaigns do. They send out surrogates to push out a narrative or put out fires, shoot out press releases, blast ads, and attack opponents to gain control of the media. And say what you want about the Clinton campaign, they were a well oiled machine when it came to that. They were the best the world has ever seen. And they were going up against the worst campaign in human History.

I don't consider social media bots to be an effective method to propagate timed leaks or hacked material. Anyone would question the validity of questionably obtained material released by some nobody with 10 followers. And where these ever confirmed to be "fake news"?
 
digdug2k said:
Heh. "I wasn't happy that Wikileaks released those nudes of me a week before the election, but they weren't fake, so I guess I'm the asshole for being upset about it."
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Yeah that is totally not what I said. Ugh some of you have no chill.

They are shit, their methods are shit, their Russia-Trump-Alt right apologism is shit, their transgression of personal info is shit. But every time they release a big info dump all the media pays attention.
 
MAB128 said:
That's sounds highly sophisticated and incredibly useless. Content doesn't matter if you can't propagate it efficiently. And he didn't stand a chance since the Clinton campaign had full control of the media coverage. What little control the Clinton Campaign didn't have went to whatever Trump said that day.

That is why I think people give WikiLeaks and Russia to much credit for their propaganda efforts.
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Seriously from which alternate reality did you watch the election? How did the Clinton campaign have full control of the media?
 
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