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[Semjaza Azazel]

Usually I don't have a hard time piecing together movies... but I rented Audition on VHS a few days back. I heard a lot about it and digitalbits.com recently gave the movie itself a rather high rating. I figured what the hell.

The movie started out fine... but about halfway through, there were so many cuts that I had absolutely no clue what was going on. What was happening, what he imagined, whatever. I'm absolutely confused.

Also, are there edited copies of this film or something? I had heard it was extremely gory. While it was violent, very little of the actual gore was shown. Is that just how it is?

 

[karasu]

The gore was implied, but there was a little sticky sticky here and there.

 

[SKluck]

Nerds hyped it to be some great infamous film. When it's just some shitty borefest with a somewhat interesting ending.

 

[sefskillz]

Nerds hyped it to be some great infamous film. When it's just some shitty borefest with a somewhat interesting ending.

 

[Semjaza Azazel]

I don't know, some of it was entertaining. I'm into slow, deliberate movies like this sometimes. Some of the stuff was genuinely freaky... but at the same time, a lot of it just seemed needlessly complicated by all the sudden changes in setting near the end.

So yeah, confused lol.

 

[Flynn]

Miike is really into fucking with form and expectations.

His movie Dead or Alive is a straight yakuza movie that devolves into a superpowered, Earth-destroying Dragon Ball-Z style fight in the last scene.

Audition fragments at the end, using a technique similar to Lynch's fugue-state freak-outs in Lost Highway to throw the viewer off.

Lots of people don't dig what he's up to, but for pure experimentalism and crazyness, you really can't beat him.

With his four-or-five movie-a-year schedule he can afford his excursions in excess. I totally understand those who don't have patience for his antics.

Personally, I'm utterly fascinated.

 

[Kuroyume]

I heard blockbuster rented out censored versions so maybe you picked a censored copy from wherever you got it? I think all the VHS copies were censored... I may be wrong but I do know there was a censored version released.

 

[sefskillz]

Personally, I'm utterly fascinated.

likewise

 

[Semjaza Azazel]

I heard blockbuster rented out censored versions so maybe you picked a censored copy from wherever you got it? I think all the VHS copies were censored... I may be wrong but I do know there was a censored version released.

Really? Hmm. I'll have to check that out.

It's not that I didn't like the movie. I honestly enjoyed it. It's just that the film takes absolutely no effort in trying to explain any of this and I don't really know what conclusion to make about any of it.

 

[Trevelyon]

I loved Audition, one of my favourite Miike films. The dream/recollection sequences with the 'bag man' in Asami's apartment & the gut wrenching finale are just brilliantly depraved and disgusting.

Yet this movie starts out in such contrast, with such a pure, innocent almost heart warming beginning.

It's sick. :lol

 

[karasu]

Nerds hyped it to be some great infamous film. When it's just some shitty borefest with a somewhat interesting ending.

oh stfu captain elitist.

 

[tree fiddy]

Nerds hyped it to be some great infamous film. When it's just some shitty borefest with a somewhat interesting ending.

No kidding. That pretty much sums up this terrible film.

 

[Ill Saint]

I'm afraid I'll have to go with the "nay" folks here. Not sure what "nerds" have to do with it, but I found it to be a disappointing movie. After all the hype about the twist ending and how much of a mindfuck it is, etc. it was so obvious (at least to me) from the beginning how the story would play out.

I really wanted to like it too. It's very slick and well shot, though, and I guess it's decent viewing compared to most of the garbage out there.

 

[Pachinko]

deeper deeper deeper deeeper / kirikirikirikiri....


Yeah, it was a disturbing movie, I enjoyed it.

 

[Mugen]

I thought it was preety good myself. If you want some overhyped bad Miike movie then look no further than Suicide Club. What a shit movie that is.

 

[ThirstyFly]

Put me down on the "loved it" list.

And yes, there are censored VHS and DVD releases of it. I believe there's a full 2 minutes of footage missing in the censored ones (which I have not seen, so I can't verify how badly they were cut).

A lot of people consider it Miike's best movie. I haven't seen enough of his flicks to make that claim, but I do dig it.

 

[karasu]

I'm afraid I'll have to go with the "nay" folks here. Not sure what "nerds" have to do with it, but I found it to be a disappointing movie. After all the hype about the twist ending and how much of a mindfuck it is, etc. it was so obvious (at least to me) from the beginning how the story would play out.

I really wanted to like it too. It's very slick and well shot, though, and I guess it's decent viewing compared to most of the garbage out there.

Well it can't help but be audience when people are dumb enough to hype the ending. I hate when they do that.

 

[Flynn]

A lot of people consider it Miike's best movie. I haven't seen enough of his flicks to make that claim, but I do dig it.

My personal fave is his remake of Graveyard of Honor.

Runner Up: Gozu
Second: Happiness of the Katakuris.

 

[Tea Master]

Spoiler

I think the movie was just about a girl who was used/abused by men to a point were she went psycho and hence, tortures them. The girl knew that the guy had set up the fake audition in order in lure women for dating.

There's some debate to whether or not the torture actually took place. I believe that it did because in the movie there was a shot of the girl sneaking into the guys house and tampering with the wine. I believe that the guy passed out do to the pain and then regained consciousness after.

Like Flynn said, Miike is really into messing around with film form and expectation, so often times the narative may jump from one scene to another disregarding temporal order.

I would also like to point out that during some of the shots where the narative was bouncing back forth between different temporal orders, there was a shot of the guy receiving head from his sons girlfriend. This might mean that he's a closet pervert or something.

It's been awhile since I saw the film so I can't remember of the characters names.

 

[FortNinety]

My personal fave is his remake of Graveyard of Honor.

Runner Up: Gozu
Second: Happiness of the Katakuris.

I saw Gozu for the first time just recently and it's fucking amazing. The ending simply defies explanation.

 

[sefskillz]

I thought it was preety good myself. If you want some overhyped bad Miike movie then look no further than Suicide Club. What a shit movie that is.

that's not a miike movie.

 

[shuri]

Happyness was a remake of the korean flick THE QUIET FAMILY (which fucking rocks, check it out), which in turn was a remake of the ever infamous movie that feature the jodie foster pinball scene HOTEL NEW HAMPSHIRE, with Rob Lowe,

Which was based on a book by a very disturbed individual.

 

[Mugen]

that's not a miike movie.

lol eat it. you're right though. Though Suicide Club does suck.

 

[tree fiddy]

I saw Gozu for the first time just recently and it's fucking amazing. The ending simply defies explanation.

Gozu was pretty sweet. It was so odd and compelling. It was kind of like a dream/nightmare made into a movie.

Also, as someone else pointed out, Suicide Club was awful.

 

[Flynn]

Happyness was a remake of the korean flick THE QUIET FAMILY (which fucking rocks, check it out), which in turn was a remake of the ever infamous movie that feature the jodie foster pinball scene HOTEL NEW HAMPSHIRE, with Rob Lowe,

Which was based on a book by a very disturbed individual.

The Quiet Family is now on my list.

Thanks, Shuri.

 

[FortNinety]

The Quiet Family is now on my list.

Thanks, Shuri.

yeah me too! especially the book

 

[Flynn]

My favorite DVD importer has The Quiet Family for $15.

Drunken Master DVD

 

[ThirstyFly]

Man, I need to see Gozu.

Has it been released officially in R1 on DVD?

 

[Flynn]

Man, I need to see Gozu.

Has it been released officially in R1 on DVD?

No, it's in a limited theatrical release right now. The DVD should follow soon.

 

[Chittagong]

Call me nerd, but I'll have to declare myself to the "loved it" side. I found it very thought provoking, not too straight forward and occasionally utterly disgusting and throughout disturbing. One of the few movies I had to look away from the screen at some points.

Kirikirikirikiriiii!

 

[Suerte]

The only good part of Gozu was the ending, the rest of it was shit.

 

[ThirstyFly]

No, it's in a limited theatrical release right now. The DVD should follow soon.

Cool, thanks. I'll hold out for that.

Do you know waht company is doing it?

 

[Flynn]

Cool, thanks. I'll hold out for that.

Do you know waht company is doing it?

Pathfinder pictures has the theatrical and will likely handle video.