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[WasteLand Soldier]

seems over for sonys 2008. what does this mean for blu ray?

 

[Tiktaalik]

Too Human's sales will probably be massively front loaded. There's no way its getting anywhere near the top 10 for Sept.

 

[Y2Kev]

Wow...Too Human doing worse out of the gate than I ever thought. That's what? Ten or so days of US release represented right there? Unless it gets a pretty hefty amount of marketing this season, I'm thinking this trilogy may never see its second part released.

It's about 20 days I think. TH was released August 12.

 

[AndyD]

Accessories

"Xobx Live point cards and gold membership cards represented three of the top-10 accessory items for the month which sheds a little light onto the popularity of this service to Xbox 360 fans"

I still don't know why Sony is taking so long on the pre-paid PSN cards. It's like leaving money on the table.

Even if the cards were everywhere like Live cards, they still would not sell well. Firstly, there are no subscription cards (free) and secondly, a large portion of people would rather use a credit card than go out and buy a PSN card. So the numbers would be greatly skewed even if they did register.

 

[AtreyU]

Hmm, can you try better than a lol gif next time?

You sarcastically stated that Next gen dominance continues, ie it isn't and wii is continuing its dominance over next gen, when in fact a more accurate assessment is the fact that Wiis mega numbers are sliding and the gap between next gen and wii is getting smaller, thus it was a dumb comment.

so who's joke character is this.

 

[deepbrown]

I don't get this comment ""The PSP and PS3 systems achieved the greatest percentage gain of all now-gen systems." isn't PS3 down?

 

[grandjedi6]

Hmm, can you try better than a lol gif next time?

You sarcastically stated that Next gen dominance continues, ie it isn't and wii is continuing its dominance over next gen, when in fact a more accurate assessment is the fact that Wiis mega numbers are sliding and the gap between next gen and wii is getting smaller, thus it was a dumb comment.

 

[jj984jj]

MS takes back their silver medal for this month! :lol

Really though, I hope the price cut snugs them into second place nice place and 360 software keeps selling so that the awesome games keep coming.

 

[GhaleonEB]

360 TOO HUMAN MICROSOFT Aug-08 8 168.2K

How good/bad is that compared to expectations?

I haven't been following Too Human - or gaming sales in general - much this year. But my first thought is, that's a disaster. The game cost $70m, and was a major first party release, FFS.

 

[Orin GA]

I'm trying to figure out the same thing. Why is it after years and years of NPD and sales charts there are still people that don't know how to use the word BOMB correctly?

With the exception of star games(read Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, etc etc) no game that sells 168,000 its first month should be called a bomb. Especially when said game has seen nothing but bad reviews, poor marketing oh.................and an awful lot of hate on GAF

Too Human has been in development for how long now?

 

[Anasui Kishibe]

Wonder how Symphonia will do- I mean, whether it will bomb harder or not.

that's actually a not so easy question to answer. My guess is that it will do better, but not by much. 300k total in NA, probably

 

[X26]

Too Human sales aren't good, but they aren't bad either...guess you could spin it either way.

And it's always funny seeing the wiitards proclaim some kind of moral victory...despite none of those huge profits going their way and having shit to play or look forward to

 

[OldJadedGamer]

The Xbox 360 20GB SKU had a price drop in July if i'm not mistaken. But the Xbox 360 Arcade and Elite SKU had a pricedrop this month ye, true that

"The price reduction we announced yesterday is not a system price reduction; I want to be really clear about that because I don't want people to accuse us of doing something that we didn't do." - Shane Kim Corporate Vice President, Strategy and Business Development

 

[jimbo]

Here's the truth: Wii has the best games of all three consoles in my eyes. Clearly the fact that the majority feels the same way is hurting you a lot.

If by truth you mean, your name, then yes. That you are and so is this statement.

 

[test_account]

More of a clearance sale, it was immediately replaced by the $350 60GB sku, which was then price dropped on the 7th.

"The price reduction we announced yesterday is not a system price reduction; I want to be really clear about that because I don't want people to accuse us of doing something that we didn't do." - Shane Kim Corporate Vice President, Strategy and Business Development

Ah ok, i didnt know that, thanks for the info!

 

[Visualante]

I wonder if Microsoft will let Silicon Knights finish the trilogy in light of the sales- they're in the Heavenly Sword ball park iirc and that was intended to be a trilogy also.

e. Heavenly Sword, new IP in a trilogy managed 139k in September 07 up against Halo 3. Considering where the 360 is now I'd say these numbers are a disappointment from MS' point of view. But then the budget for HS might have been phenomenally higher considering the mo-cap they did.

 

[Tiktaalik]

seems over for sonys 2008. what does this mean for blu ray?

Blu Ray won like months ago where have you been?

 

[HarryHengst]

Hmm, can you try better than a lol gif next time?

You sarcastically stated that Next gen dominance continues, ie it isn't and wii is continuing its dominance over next gen, when in fact a more accurate assessment is the fact that Wiis mega numbers are sliding and the gap between next gen and wii is getting smaller, thus it was a dumb comment.

A smaller gap in sales still means an increase in the total gap between 360/ps3 and wii. So your comment is dumb.

 

[Pimpbaa]

You and I have widley different gaming tastes...

Not just you, the majority on this board. The kinda people that would consider the wii to have the best games out of the three wouldn't be on this forum. Because they are non-gamers.

 

[Warm Machine]

seems over for sonys 2008. what does this mean for blu ray?

Stand alone players are cheaper than PS3s so it really doesn't mean anything. It just means that the PS3 isn't the mass market BR delivery device anymore.

 

[schuelma]

It pretty much confirms that the only non-rhythm game 3rd party games that can actually sell on the Wii are shovelware games and/or games that use some kind of IP from another medium.

Are we in make believe world where something like..I don't know..Tiger Woods doesn't count? Certain sports games do poorly, yes. And certain ones do well.

 

[harSon]

Can we get Vesperia and Soul Calibur 4 PS3 numbers?

 

[Narag]

Hmm, can you try better than a lol gif next time?

You sarcastically stated that Next gen dominance continues, ie it isn't and wii is continuing its dominance over next gen, when in fact a more accurate assessment is the fact that Wiis mega numbers are sliding and the gap between next gen and wii is getting smaller, thus it was a dumb comment.

This kind of reasoning leads to the Playstation family talk.

 

[[Nintex]]

Sony seems to have put their eggs in the first party exclusive basket for this holiday season. While MS is going the pricedrop, bundle, deal route. It'll be interesting to see which strategy is the best.

If Resistance 2 isn't the answer to Gears of War 2 though than Sony will trail even further behind.

 

[d+pad]

sucks that the HD consoles have all the good games, eh?

I see someone just returned from his/her first day of (elementary/middle) school...

 

[MattKeil]

I'm trying to figure out the same thing. Why is it after years and years of NPD and sales charts there are still people that don't know how to use the word BOMB correctly?

With the exception of star games(read Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, etc etc) no game that sells 168,000 its first month should be called a bomb. Especially when said game has seen nothing but bad reviews, poor marketing oh.................and an awful lot of hate on GAF

Plus, Too Human only had two weeks of August to sell that many. Really not a bad performance for a low-marketing new IP in a summer release slot.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Here's the truth: Wii has the best games of all three consoles in my eyes. Clearly the fact that the majority feels the same way is hurting you a lot.

QFT

 

[mr_bishiuk]

when was the drop for 20 GB? Didn't that get drop sometime of $50? or was that in July?

July and it was clearly a fire sale as they announced the 60gig model at the same time and shortly after that the rumours from reliable sources started spreading about the proper across the board price cuts

 

[Xisiqomelir]

what tears are you talking about?

sucks that the HD consoles have all the good games, eh?

The ones you shed when your mother took her money back?

I don't even know what this is about.

 

[LiquidMamba]

I don't get this comment ""The PSP and PS3 systems achieved the greatest percentage gain of all now-gen systems." isn't PS3 down?

I believe this means year-over-year growth. Those systems grew in sales the most over the numbers from last August.

 

[No Means Nomad]

Blu Ray won like months ago where have you been?

Blu Ray has gone further than HD-DVD, but it still hasn't reached the finish line.

 

[Grecco]

360 TOO HUMAN MICROSOFT Aug-08 8 168.2K

How good/bad is that compared to expectations?

I haven't been following Too Human - or gaming sales in general - much this year. But my first thought is, that's a disaster. The game cost $70m, and was a major first party release, FFS.

An incredible bomb. Especially compared to other Xbox August exclusives. Lets say Bioshock for instance.

 

[AndyD]

Who is this what movie?

Scarlett Johanson in Lost in Translation I think.

 

[Zombie James]

edit: nm, he wasn't worth replying to.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Why does that make you happy?

Its fucking expensive and it puts the priorities in the wrong place. If it wasnt for the low tech systems sustaining then the penetration of hd consoles would be laughable and worrying.

Spoiler

I'm exaggerating

 

[jimbo]

Too Human has been in development for how long now?

On paper?

Since when has the length of a game's development mattered in sales?

 

[WrikaWrek]

360 TOO HUMAN MICROSOFT Aug-08 8 168.2K

How good/bad is that compared to expectations?

I haven't been following Too Human - or gaming sales in general - much this year. But my first thought is, that's a disaster. The game cost $70m, and was a major first party release, FFS.

It's bad. Actually it's horrible, i'm sure MS expected at least north of 300k. Not even close.

But hey it beat Wii Madden.

 

[Nolan.]

Omg did Too Human just sell about the same or more than Uncharted's debut? if so thats kind of disgusting .

 

[Vaux]

It's ok, there's a more expensive version of the PS3 coming soon.

:lol :lol :lol

 

[Captain Smoker]

For comparison purposes, does anyone knows Madden 08 LTD and first month numbers for all the systems?

Only first month numbers:

Madden NFL 08:
360 MADDEN NFL 08 896.600
PS2 MADDEN NFL 08 643.600
PS3 MADDEN NFL 08 336.200
WII MADDEN NFL 08 115.600

Madden NFL 09:
360 MADDEN NFL 09 1.000.000
PS3 MADDEN NFL 09 643.000
PS2 MADDEN NFL 09 424.500
WII MADDEN NFL 09 115.800

 

[Guled]

is there anyway to find out the # Disgaea 3 did?

 

[MattKeil]

An incredible bomb. Especially compared to other Xbox August exclusives. Lets say Bioshock for instance.

Wrong.

 

[drohne]

first achievement i'm proud to have unlocked, in collaboration with you, the gaming community -- not buying too human is the most popular massively multiplayer game in the world

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

360 TOO HUMAN MICROSOFT Aug-08 8 168.2K

How good/bad is that compared to expectations?

I haven't been following Too Human - or gaming sales in general - much this year. But my first thought is, that's a disaster. The game cost $70m, and was a major first party release, FFS.

The GS lampoon at had over 30 Too Humans come in on launch, they still have 10

 

[AAK]

Pretty much expected results.

 

[Loudninja]

It's bad. Actually it's horrible, i'm sure MS expected at least north of 300k. Not even close.

But hey it beat Wii Madden.

I was expecting at least 200k.

 

[WrikaWrek]

Sony seems to have put their eggs in the first party exclusive basket for this holiday season. While MS is going the pricedrop, bundle, deal route. It'll be interesting to see which strategy is the best.

If Resistance 2 isn't the answer to Gears of War 2 though than Sony will trail even further behind.

I think MS is going the price drop, bundle, deal route and 1st party exclusives, which it has as in as many number as Sony.

The fall looks good for MS. "good".

I was expecting at least 200k.

Yeah me too. But i guess negative word of mouth prevailed, and people saved themselfs 60$ instead of wasting it on trash.

 

[Y2Kev]

Agreed on the budget vs. breaking even. Not a great performance but not a bomb, either. Factor in holiday sales and I would say a sequel is likely. Hey, Yakuza got three.

Yakuza is absolutely enormous in Japan. Where is Too Human huge? Saint Catherine?

 

[GhaleonEB]

An incredible bomb. Especially compared to other Xbox August exclusives. Lets say Bioshock for instance.

Yeah, that's what I thought. Thanks.

FWIW, I thought demo was shit, so I was kind of rooting for it to bomb. :lol

 

[grandjedi6]

On paper?

Since when has the length of a game's development mattered in sales?

um, since the beginning? Longer development time = more costs = less profit. Its a pretty simple concept