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Baldur's Gate 3 developer says the game isn't really a CRPG - in any sense of the word

Is Baldur's Gate 3 a CRPG?

  • Yes

    Votes: 46 74.2%
  • No

    Votes: 4 6.5%
  • No, this is silly

    Votes: 12 19.4%

  • Total voters
    62

LectureMaster

Gold Member

In an interview with By Design, Larian Studios’ publishing director Micheal Douse talked about the moniker, its implications, and the wider genre as a whole. When asked about how wide the CRPG market was, Douse responds that the team “never used the term CRPG in our campaigns for a reason.”

Douse has a few reasons for that omission. Firstly, is the fact that the game “plays very well on a PS5” and that an Xbox port is coming sometime this year. The developer’s previous game, Divinity Original Sin 2, also played “extremely well on an iPad Pro,” according to Douse, meaning these games “are no longer ‘computer RPGs.” In a factual sense, they’re console-mobile-computer-RPGs. Technically, the 'C' in CRPG does stand for computer - a way of differentiating them from tabletop RPGs - but in some circles, it's also thought to stand for 'classic'. But Douse says that's not right either: “If you consider CRPG to mean ‘classic’ RPG, I promise you that Baldur’s Gate 3 is not a classic RPG but a modern RPG,” Douse continues. “It has a lot of depth, but it’s doing things most RPGs aren’t able to do. The latter is a big reason for its perceived success.”

Surely, there are marketing fluffs regarding the wordings, but Larian is clearly doing a great job lowering the barrier to let new comers get into this game. They have the signature freedom and creativity of turn based combat, and the graphics are outstanding among others in the same genre while keeping that great sense of roleplay immersion and in depth story unfolding. There are numerous player reviews saying they never played a CRPG but got hooked on so immensely. In this sense, what Larian grows is not really the CRPG fanbase but their own fanbase.
 

Fake

Member
Confused Hanna Barbera GIF by Warner Archive
 

Drizzlehell

Banned
Video games are video games even though the video part has been anachronistic for a while.

Just call things what they are based on their roots. Don't overcomplicate it.
 

Red5

Member
Tabletop RPG's like DnD, Shadowrun and BattleTech were all we nerds had, we called them RPG's not the full term, then came RPG's which you could play on computer like Wasteland on Commodore or MSDos so they separated the two with TRPG for traditional tabletop and CRPG for computer ones.

Baldur's Gate 3 is very much a CRPG despite what Douse says, because it adheres to tabletop rules, stats and dice roles for pretty much every encounter and outcome, it's a computerized tabletop RPG hence CRPG.
 
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Majukun

Member
namnes of a genre stay over details, we call them metroidvania even if they are not from those two series, at the time we called every fps a doom-clone.
 

Robb

Gold Member
Does it matter what he thinks it is? It is what it is. He can think it’s a platformer if he wants to for all I care.
 
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Shifty1897

Member
This is like when Japanese devs get bent out of shape for having their games called JRPGs.

It doesn't matter what the devs call their game, at the end of the day the customers and community are going to define the game how they want. Embrace it.
 

64bitmodels

Reverse groomer.
BG3 takes many of its mechanics from previous games in the genre labeled CRPG, hence CRPG. I know it's on PS5, I know it's going to be on Xbox soon, I know it's on apple devices. But it's roots are still deeply ground in the personal computer from a gameplay standpoint.

We don't literally classify types of RPG, they are simply just labels that describe the style of gameplay they use. Hence why Sea of Stars and Chained Echoes are JRPGs even if their developers are from the west, they play like older JPRGs.
 

EDMIX

Writes a lot, says very little
BG3 takes many of its mechanics from previous games in the genre labeled CRPG, hence CRPG. I know it's on PS5, I know it's going to be on Xbox soon, I know it's on apple devices. But it's roots are still deeply ground in the personal computer from a gameplay standpoint.

We don't literally classify types of RPG, they are simply just labels that describe the style of gameplay they use. Hence why Sea of Stars and Chained Echoes are JRPGs even if their developers are from the west, they play like older JPRGs.

Beat me to it.

yea if the C just means like computer, its sorta moot. By default most are that. Even if they mean sorta like top down stuff, this game is that anyway lol

Bout to double dip down dat fucking RIVER!

 

Lunarorbit

Gold Member
I play wasteland 3 on my ps5 but it's definitely a crpg

So is bg3. It's OK that it's a crpg. It's done a great job and should embrace it's identity
 

BlackTron

Gold Member
Sounds like they just don't want to call it a CRPG because they want to differentiate it from what came before. Because it's more accessible, on more platforms, with better graphics, we need to call it something else so it doesn't get lumped in with well...games of the same genre. They expect people who don't usually play CRPGs to play this so they're trying to speak a different (cough, baser) language to them.
 

The Cockatrice

Gold Member
Theres always going to be that one special dev. He calls it modern but theres nothing modern about it unless this is his first rpg ever played. The gameplay and its rulesets are prolly older than this dev. Story choices? We had those ages ago as well, hell, even Dragon Age Origins had some impressive story choices, sure BG3 is prolly the best in that regard but again, nothing modern about it. It's a crpg no matter what any dumbass says.
 

EDMIX

Writes a lot, says very little
Theres always going to be that one special dev. He calls it modern but theres nothing modern about it unless this is his first rpg ever played. The gameplay and its rulesets are prolly older than this dev. Story choices? We had those ages ago as well, hell, even Dragon Age Origins had some impressive story choices, sure BG3 is prolly the best in that regard but again, nothing modern about it. It's a crpg no matter what any dumbass says.

This 1000x

I hate when someone tries to call something a completely different thing, yet fails to even support why it would be called something different.

If TacoBell out here telling us what they sell isn't Tacos, we don't give a shit what they are trying to force, if that shit got ground beef in a tortilla shell ...fuck I'm suppose to call it? lol
 
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Closer

Member
This game is also not a RPG because you are not playing a role in it, you're playing some character role in the game that has some predefined path for you to unroll the story, so it's a SCPGAVN.
 
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Evil Calvin

Afraid of Boobs
CRPG. Computer (or console...now..) Role Playing Game. It's a role playing game in the greatest example of what an RPG should be. Much more than most games these days (some even say Zelda TOTK is an RPG).
 

Neilg

Member
My impression of the term computer role playing game was that it is to distinguish it from a pen and paper / real life RPG - and that it is a software based simulation of the same kind of game.
In that respect, it's the most crpg ever made.
 
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