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[HStallion]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/24/bernie-sanders-if-his-staffs-email-were-hacked-thered-surely-be-some-unkind-things-about-clinton/

While I figure this is rather common sense knowledge and obvious to a lot of people I still glad Bernie brought it up. He's been stumping for Hillary hard and I guess this had to be brought up in light of what some of his more ardent supporters feel and have been saying because of the wikileaks emails. It won't put anything to rest of course but hopefully its just another rebuke to the email nonsense that has been going on for so damn long.

“Trust me, if they went into our emails — I suppose which may happen, who knows — I’m sure there would be statements that would be less than flattering about, you know, the Clinton staff,” Sanders said. “That’s what happens in campaigns.”

“It’s amusing,” he said. “We said that the Clinton campaign was heavily influencing what the DNC was doing regarding debates, and that’s exactly what had been happening. None of that is a shock to me. Was I shocked to find out that the DNC was partial toward Clinton? Not exactly. That’s something we knew from day one.”

Throw me in jail for my emails if old.

 

[Bronx-Man]

HE'S BEING PAID OFF! IT'S ALL RIGGED! #PODESTA69 #JILLNOTHILL #MAGA

 

[foxdvd]

He would have been one hell of a president.

 

[OnionPowder]

He would have been one hell of a president.

Yep. I'm glad that he's still around though and doing work on the Clinton campaign.

 

[Vinc]

They say a little honesty goes a long way. Love the guy,

 

[guek]

He would have been one hell of a president.

I'm sad we didn't get to see him eat Trump alive on stage. Hillary did great but she was constrained by sexist double standards that would have labeled her as "bitchy" had she really gone off on him.

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

I just don't understand why Trump keeps trying to pretend this man is his friend.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

HE'S BEING PAID OFF! IT'S ALL RIGGED! #PODESTA69 #JILLNOTHILL #MAGA

This reads like every top rated youtube comment on TYT.

 

[sazzy]

HE'S BEING PAID OFF! IT'S ALL RIGGED! #PODESTA69 #JILLNOTHILL #MAGA

lol

 

[Aaronrules380]

He would have been one hell of a president.

I doubt it. I don't think he has a solid enough grasp on actual policy, and I think he'd be horrible at working with congress

 

[Trojita]

Bernie is keeping it 100.

 

[Byakuya769]

Hopefully Bernie also realizes it's not untoward for a party to be supportive of a member of their party over someone who kind of caucuses with them.

 

[fantomena]

I wish I could see him debate Trump, but Trump has way too thin skin so he chickened out.

 

[Sony]

Apples and oranges. Saying something unflattering about someone is different than plotting against someone.

 

[Slayven]

all those emails read like the petty bullshit you would see in any office private emails.

Shocking people talk shit in emails.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

I'm sad we didn't get to see him eat Trump alive on stage. Hillary did great but she was constrained by sexist double standards that would have labeled her as "bitchy" had she really gone off on him.

Bernie would have eviscerated him.

Trump wouldn't be able to call Bernie corrupt or a liar.
He could say he's another tax and spend politician, but that's about it.
The idea of a rigged system or rigged game wouldn't work against Bernie because he represents anti-establishment ideals far better than Trump.

 

[Aaronrules380]

Apples and oranges. Saying something unflattering about someone is different than plotting against someone.

I mean, it might have been different if he had actually been a democrat instead of joining the party for convenience just for this election

 

[RDreamer]

I doubt it. I don't think he has a solid enough grasp on actual policy, and I think he'd be horrible at working with congress

I think he's got a decent enough working grasp on policy and a good history of working across the aisle for compromise. The problem would really come in, though, when his base realized he couldn't get even half the things he believes in done and wouldn't turn out midterms or next elections.

I also wasn't as confident in his foreign policy bona fides compared to Clinton.

 

[friskykillface]

Bernie the god

 

[fantomena]

Bernie would have eviscerated him.

Trump wouldn't be able to call Bernie corrupt or a liar.
He could say he's another tax and spend politician, but that's about it.
The idea of a rigged system or rigged game wouldn't work against Bernie because he represents anti-establishment ideals far better than Trump.

I think taxes, him being a politician and the video of him praising Cuba or whatever is what could have hurted Bernie most.

But Cuba DOES have a fantastic health care system or so Ive heard.

 

[LifEndz]

I just don't understand why Trump keeps trying to pretend this man is his friend.

Trying to get support from the Bernie bros?

 

[Laevateinn]

#DEALWITHTHEDEVIL

 

[Aaronrules380]

Bernie would have eviscerated him.

Trump wouldn't be able to call Bernie corrupt or a liar.
He could say he's another tax and spend politician, but that's about it.
The idea of a rigged system or rigged game wouldn't work against Bernie because he represents anti-establishment ideals far better than Trump.

Trump would've just painted him as a communist. Bernie has a ton of skeletons in his closet. Many of which would probably hurt him worse than the corrupt politician line

 

[M.D]

Bernie would have eviscerated him.

Trump wouldn't be able to call Bernie corrupt or a liar.
He could say he's another tax and spend politician, but that's about it.
The idea of a rigged system or rigged game wouldn't work against Bernie because he represents anti-establishment ideals far better than Trump.

It would have been B Rabbit vs Papa Doc

 

[balladofwindfishes]

He would have been one hell of a president.

He was terrible at policy. His biggest gaffes of the primaries were when he showed the huge holes in his understanding of policy. He had no plans for enacting anything he was proposing. So they were just empty words that sounded pretty but had no substance.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

I don't think Bernie is quite as politically savvy as Clinton for maneuvering within the system to get things done. Making deals, picking and choosing your battles, etc.

I'm glad Clinton is the Democratic Nominee. But Bernie would have made for a very awesome election.

 

[Aaronrules380]

I think he's got a decent enough working grasp on policy and a good history of working across the aisle for compromise. The problem would really come in, though, when his base realized he couldn't get even half the things he believes in done and wouldn't turn out midterms or next elections.

I also wasn't as confident in his foreign policy bona fides compared to Clinton.

He has never shown a good grasp of policy, and his primary campaign showed him to be extremely stubborn and resistant to compromise

 

[fantomena]

Trump would've just painted him as a communist. Bernie has a ton of skeletons in his closet. Many of which would probably hurt him worse than the corrupt politician line

Which skeletons?

He was terrible at policy. His biggest gaffes of the primaries were when he showed the huge holes in his understanding of policy. He had no plans for enacting anything he was proposing. So they were just empty words that sounded pretty but had no substance.

I disagree.

 

[univariate]

I doubt it. I don't think he has a solid enough grasp on actual policy, and I think he'd be horrible at working with congress

You could've food me, because Bernie clearly demonstrates a much better grasp on actual policy than Hillary. He also communicates it to the people more clearly than Hillary.

 

[Plumbob]

You could've food me, because Bernie clearly demonstrates a much better grasp on actual policy than Hillary. He also communicates it to the people more clearly than Hillary.

Bernie's the master of platitudes, not policy.

 

[Frustrated_me]

I feel for Bernie the DNC heavily ensured Hillary gets the nomination.

 

[Aaronrules380]

Which skeletons?

A gaf member once compiled a huge list of stuff that could be used against him. But being an atheist socialist is really enough to make winning an election incredibly difficult (and that's not a hard picture to paint)

 

[univariate]

Trump would've just painted him as a communist. Bernie has a ton of skeletons in his closet. Many of which would probably hurt him worse than the corrupt politician line

You must be thinking of Hillary.

 

[Aaronrules380]

Bernie's the master of platitudes, not policy.

Yep. He's great at talking about what he wants to happen, but really, really bad at saying exactly how it should happen. His breaking up the banks bill for instance was embarrassingly bad

 

[VistraNorrez]

One of the things I like about Democrats nowadays, with the likes of Sanders and Warren, is that they understand their differences aren't roadblocks. I fully expect Warren and Sanders to continue to push Clinton to their ideas. It's an ideal setup of the government.

 

[fantomena]

A gaf member once compiled a huge list of stuff that could be used against him. But being an atheist socialist is really enough to make winning an election incredibly difficult (and that's not a hard picture to paint)

I need that list.

However, he's not a socialist, no matter how much he claims to be one.

And where did he say he's an atheist?

 

[kirblar]

You must be thinking of Hillary.

No.

He's got a lot of stuff that will turn off swing voters. Trump/Sanders would likely have had depressed turnout on both sides.

I feel for Bernie the DNC heavily ensured Hillary gets the nomination.

That's what happens when someone's been in the party for 3 decades and worked to get other candidates to defer to another year while you just joined literally to run for president.

 

[Ricitor]

Incoming Jimmy Dore bitching that Bernie sold out.

 

[Angry Goat]

America is too "free" for Bernie to be President.

 

[Aaronrules380]

I need that list.

However, he's not a socialist, no matter how much he claims to be one.

And where did he say he's an atheist?

It doesn't matter if he is or isn't, just like it doesn't matter than Clinton is actually one of the more honest politicians based on fact checking sites. It's a matter of perception, not reality

 

[GregLombardi]

Cue hack in 3...2...1....

 

[balladofwindfishes]

You could've food me, because Bernie clearly demonstrates a much better grasp on actual policy than Hillary. He also communicates it to the people more clearly than Hillary.

Bernie was bad at articulating how he was going to get his policy made into law. His plans would require super majorities in all parts of government, in every state, to even maybe have a chance to work.

He totally lost me when he wanted every state to chip into college tuition reform. That isn't ever going to happen, so building your plan to work like that is asking for it to completely collapse when half the states just outright refuse to participate. His "plan" for banking reform was embarrassing.

Hillary has the best grasp on policy of any candidate we've had running for president in a generation.

 

[univariate]

Bernie's the master of platitudes, not policy.

That's not something unique to Bernie, or anyone running for president (especially for a primary).

 

[SunnyVi]

Good on Bernie. The only likeable candidate this election. He truly seems genuine and wanting to change the system.

 

[fantomena]

It doesn't matter if he is or isn't, just like it doesn't matter than Clinton is actually one of the more honest politicians based on fact checking sites. It's a matter of perception, not reality

Can you please give me some links? You said there was a big list of skeletons, no link to the list, now you claim Hillary is one of the more honest politicians, no link.

I read your post as a fact that Bernie is an atheist socialist. Now I want sources.

 

[Jenov]

You could've food me, because Bernie clearly demonstrates a much better grasp on actual policy than Hillary. He also communicates it to the people more clearly than Hillary.

Not sure how anyone could say that after reading the NY Daily News policy interviews with him and Hillary. It was very clear who had a better grasp on policy and how the system churns.

 

[USC-fan]

honestly thinking about writing him in.

Thing that was must upsetting is the paid protester in chicago all had nice printed bernie signs to make it look like it was his supporter causing stuff to be shut down.

 

[ZOONAMI]

I just don't understand why Trump keeps trying to pretend this man is his friend.

I did see a trump bumper sticker and a Bernie bumper sticker on the same car a couple days ago. Sadly, it might be working on some people.

 

[Seventy70]

One of the things I like about Democrats nowadays, with the likes of Sanders and Warren, is that they understand their differences aren't roadblocks. I fully expect Warren and Sanders to continue to push Clinton to their ideas. It's an ideal setup of the government.

It's funny how Democrats are really the only ones that seem to want to work together. Democrats have been the only ones that have said that whatever happens in this election, they everyone needs to work together. You never hear that sentiment expressed by Republicans. Not even a head nod.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

Hopefully Bernie also realizes it's not untoward for a party to be supportive of a member of their party over someone who kind of caucuses with them.

Or supportive of a member of their party who was, for all intents and purposes, a dead lock to win the Presidency exactly as she's about to now. I think due to the once in a decade disaster that is Donald Trump, a lot of people are really underestimating just how strong a candidate Hillary was bound to end up being regardless of the obvious vulnerabilities she has as a candidate. She would have beat anybody the Republicans put against her this year because even if they wouldn't have been as batshit insane as Trump (and I think Cruz is even worse in many ways), at the end of the day their plans for where they want this country to go are terrible, and those would've worked to Hillary's advantage one way or the other once put in the position to have a contest of their ideas. Generic matchups would always look not favorable for Clinton, until they actually become real matchups for a variety of reasons.