Beyond Good and Evil. Did Europe save our ass on this one?

Azih

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Alright just finished BG&E. Bungie, sit up and take some notes you tards, THIS is how you finish off a satsifying arc in a game, pull off a nice climax AND leave it open for a sequel ALL AT THE SAME TIME. Wowow. Plus the game had some really gratifying ending credits which is really surprising considering how short a time you spent with the characters.

Too bad it sold like shit. I heard that it did pretty good in Europe though, good enough for a sequel?
 
I think the game is overrated. I thought it was good, but some of you are making it out to be better than it is, because it sold poorly.

I thought the dungeon puzzles, for the most part, seemed contrived. GREAT atmosphere though. It's def. a memorable game and worth every sent of the $20 I spent on it.
 
Don't think so. This is why cliff-hanger endings are terrible.
Game sells poorly and fans never find out what the teaser was all about.
 
:lol everyone bitched about the BG&E ending too though

i personally loved it, from start to finish. definitely an awesome awesome game.
 
No, it bombed pretty much everywhere. Otherwise it would've been released in Japan alongside Prince of Persia.

A real shame, too, since it's my favorite game this generation and I WANNA KNOW WHAT HAPPENS!
 
See I don't see it as that much of a cliffhanger, the story that the game started with is finished, it just left some really important questions open and while I'd really really like to have those questions answered I can be content with imagining all of them living happily ever after or somesuch. I am of course ignoring that really stupid bit at the end of the credits... I'm pretending it didn't happen. Man that was dumb.
 
Azih said:
I am of course ignoring that really stupid bit at the end of the credits... I'm pretending it didn't happen. Man that was dumb.

Yeah, that's what people really hated about the ending. Awesome game though.
 
What? The BG&E ending was even worse than Halo 2! It all just came out of nowhere and suddenly a ton of shit was dropped on you and then the ending was over in 5 seconds and you were like WTF and yes this is a purposefully run-on sentence to accentuate how fast everything happened and it sucked.
 
Bah they mentioned Jade's mysterious past from the halfway point on and the last half of the last level really built up the fact that somthing really wierd was happening with her.
 
Alright just finished BG&E. Bungie, sit up and take some notes you tards, THIS is how you finish off a satsifying arc in a game,
:lol Are you crazy? BG&E had one of the worst endings EVER!
 
Azih said:
Bungie, sit up and take some notes... THIS is how you finish off a satsifying arc in a game
Not even, BG&E is guilty of the same thing that Halo2 is guilty of, but in a different manner. Both are good games, but both had endings that pissed me off.

Halo2 simply didn't finish the story arc that it started, in fact it essentially loops you back to the begining. Earth is being invaded when it opens, earth is being invaded when it closes. The story arc that I bought into was essentially sidelined and preserved for the next game.

Now, technically BG&E does close up its immediete arc, because the alien (I forget what they are called) are vanquished from their base on the moon and the invasion of the planet is stopped. However, none of the actual details pertaining to Jade are ever resolved, we still dont know where her powers comes from or even what they are, we have no idea what link she had to those aliens, and we are clueless about what "Shawnee" means. I want to know just who the hell I was playing as for the last ten hours.

So the invasion was stopped, but everything that I wanted to know about the invasion and the central character is left wide open. And you're uncle being infected at the very end is a cliffhanger, but not one so scandelous as Halo2 since Peyj' s infection actually opens up a new new story arc while Halo2 is still back on square one.

Well, closures like these really get to me. Right now I'm starting the last book in the the Dark Tower series, but book 5's cliffhanger and book 6's essential filler and buildup did not bother me because I knew how long the series was from the start and had the next book right there. I hate getting blindsided by cliffhangers and unfinished business meant for another sequel.
 
Deku Tree said:
Don't think so. This is why cliff-hanger endings are terrible.
Game sells poorly and fans never find out what the teaser was all about.
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...Really?
 
BG&E was an awesome game. Should have sold way more than it did. I also loved PoP too. Who made it, Ubisoft? Anyway, they had two of the best game releases last year. I had no complaints about BG&E except maybe it finished a bit too soon, but that's only b/c it was so much fun to play. I really dug it a lot. Hope there's a sequel someday. PEACE.
 
ArcadeStickMonk said:
Not even, BG&E is guilty of the same thing that Halo2 is guilty of, but in a different manner. Both are good games, but both had endings that pissed me off.

Halo2 simply didn't finish the story arc that it started, in fact it essentially loops you back to the begining. Earth is being invaded when it opens, earth is being invaded when it closes. The story arc that I bought into was essentially sidelined and preserved for the next game.

Now, technically BG&E does close up its immediete arc, because the alien (I forget what they are called) are vanquished from their base on the moon and the invasion of the planet is stopped. However, none of the actual details pertaining to Jade are ever resolved, we still dont know where her powers comes from or even what they are, we have no idea what link she had to those aliens, and we are clueless about what "Shawnee" means. I want to know just who the hell I was playing as for the last ten hours.

So the invasion was stopped, but everything that I wanted to know about the invasion and the central character is left wide open. And you're uncle being infected at the very end is a cliffhanger, but not one so scandelous as Halo2 since Peyj' s infection actually opens up a new new story arc while Halo2 is still back on square one.

As long as you can reasonably say 'and then they all lived happily ever after', then you have successfully resolved the plot to my mind. Leaving unanswered questions open is fine as they may be answered later. If they're not then eh, we don't get all the answers we want sometimes but at least the current story is done. It may be merely a chapter of the full tale, but at least it's DONE.
 
Azih said:
As long as you can reasonably say 'and then they all lived happily ever after', then you have successfully resolved the plot to my mind.
End of BG&E: Pig dude infected = not resolved
End of Halo 2: Earth still gettin' blow'd up = not resolved
 
I didn't like the ending to BG&E myself, but my god was the music hot!

(especially the final battle, and the very first attack by the DomZ)

I downloaded the "official" (i say that because it's not really official i think) soundtrack, and ooo man so good!

But Pey'j is still the sexiest character alive.

Also, BG&E offered a $20 cliffhanger (for those who waited), while Halo 2 offered a $50 cliffhanger (or more for LE).

WHO IS TO BLAME!?
 
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