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Bill O'Reilly Defends Dan Rather.

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Dan got smeared

The ordeal of Dan Rather goes far beyond the man himself. It speaks to the presumption of guilt that now rules the day in America. Because of a ruthless and callow media, no citizen, much less one who achieves fame, is given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to allegations or personal attacks. The smearing of America is in full bloom.

Weeks before the election, Kitty Kelley put out a book defaming the entire Bush family. The allegations were primarily made by anonymous people, but that didn't stop the media from gleefully recounting all the sordid accusations. Some newspapers even put them on page one.

That smear came on the heels of the "Swift boat" attacks on John Kerry, an ordeal that may have cost him the election. While some of the Vietnam vets had valid points, more than a few of the accusations against Kerry were simply untrue. It didn't matter though - his war record became a negative.

Right-wing talk radio in particular pounded Kerry and also bludgeoned Dan Rather for his role in another smear incident - the charges against President Bush about his National Guard service. Again, Rather was found guilty without a fair hearing. Charges that he intentionally approved bogus documents that made Bush look bad were leveled and widely believed. It was chilling.

As a CBS News correspondent in the early '80s, I worked with Rather and have known him for more than 20 years. Listen to me: There is no way on this Earth that he would have knowingly used fake documents on any story.

It may be true that Rather did not vet the information supplied to him by producers, but few anchor people do. They are dependent on other journalists, and this is a huge flaw in the system.

Dan Rather is guilty of not being skeptical enough about a story that was politically loaded. I believe Rather, along with Andy Rooney, Walter Cronkite and other guardsmen of the old CBS News, is liberal in his thinking. That is certainly a legitimate debate - how for years CBS News has taken a rather progressive outlook. But holding a political point of view is the right of every American, and it does not entitle people to practice character assassination or deny the presumption of innocence. Dan Rather was slimed. It was disgraceful.

But you'll be seeing more of this kind of thing in the future. All famous and successful Americans are now targets. Unscrupulous people know that any accusation can be dumped on the Internet and within hours the mainstream media will pick it up. It will be printed in the papers, discussed on radio and TV and become part of the unfortunate person's résumé whether he or she is guilty or not. A click of the Internet mouse can wipe out a lifetime of honor and hard work. Just the accusation or allegation can be ruinous.

Let me ask you something: In the future, do you think potential public servants and social crusaders are going to risk being brutally attacked within this insane system? I don't. I think many good people are simply going to walk away from the public arena.

Dan Rather did not get what he deserved in this case. He made a mistake, as we all do, but he is not a dishonest man.

Unfair freedom of speech did him in. This is not your grandfather's country anymore.
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
levious said:
O'Reilly is now the champion of smeared journalists?

He has to be, he was smeared himself. Staunch conservatives, especially of the talking head variety, often don't move on an issue until their hands are held to the fire they helped start.
 
What is unfair freedom of speech? No, what did in Rather was his inability or refusal to defend himself and the sad willingness of our ignorant American populace to believe everything we hear.
 
Yeah, the man made a honest mistake, the noise machine got angry and brought him down. It's a coup for them and their machine, no doubt. On the other side, their radio commentators, columnists, and Fox News bobbleheads spew distortion, fallacy, and disinformation as a rule, and not the exception, and get away with it all the time.

I think the real travesty is that people like Judith Miller and her elaborate game of "Hide the Chalabi" and the "Douchebag of Liberty" Robert Novak's role in outing undercover CIA agents get away with such egregious acts and Rather, who thought he had something, and then waited until he was sure he didn't have something before recanting, gets smeared like mad.
 

tedtropy

$50/hour, but no kissing on the lips and colors must be pre-separated
-jinx- said:
Now that the election is over, it's OK to call off the attack dogs. Way to go!

To be fair, Bill was always defensive of Dan Rather ever since 'Memogate' began, whether out of personal interest or otherwise, well...they report, you decide. :lol
 

XS+

Banned
Bill O'Reilly's show is nothing more than one huge smear of the Democratic party. This is yet another transparent attempt to affect moderacy. He's proven time and again that he's nothing more than a shill for the far-right element presently subverting our country.
 

XS+

Banned
This could also be taken as a tacit rebuke of the female who alleged O'Reilly sexually harassed her.

But you'll be seeing more of this kind of thing in the future. All famous and successful Americans are now targets. Unscrupulous people know that any accusation can be dumped on the Internet and within hours the mainstream media will pick it up. It will be printed in the papers, discussed on radio and TV and become part of the unfortunate person's résumé whether he or she is guilty or not. A click of the Internet mouse can wipe out a lifetime of honor and hard work. Just the accusation or allegation can be ruinous.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
Paying the "smearers" gobs of money will only alleviate this problem. Way to take a stand on this issue you obviously care so much about Bill! Unless there's some other reason those truckloads of dough were paid out...
 

scorcho

testicles on a cold fall morning
no, Bill O'Reilly is standing up for a profession he's only nominally involved in now. the roll of Dan Rather in the story is tenuous at best, and as O'Reilly said the most he could be accused of is pulling the neophyte move of rushing with a sensational story without adequate fact checking. it's common for news magazine pieces to utilize the 'anchor' in a hitman style fashion, where they're flown in to conduct a key interview and provide narration. most of the grunt work of verification, research and writing is handled by the lead producer and his/her staff of underpaid minions.

the system does need changing, and anyone decrying whatever internal political leanings a newscaster has needs a reality check. reporters aren't above the fray and there is always a bias in whatever they report.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
scorcho said:
no, Bill O'Reilly is standing up for a profession he's only nominally involved in now. the roll of Dan Rather in the story is tenuous at best, and as O'Reilly said the most he could be accused of is pulling the neophyte move of rushing with a sensational story without adequate fact checking. it's common for news magazine pieces to utilize the 'anchor' in a hitman style fashion, where they're flown in to conduct a key interview and provide narration. most of the grunt work of verification, research and writing is handled by the lead producer and his/her staff of underpaid minions.

the system does need changing, and anyone decrying whatever internal political leanings a newscaster has needs a reality check. reporters aren't above the fray and there is always a bias in whatever they report.

Just release the tapes of this sick fuck so we can all enjoy him getting himself some of that Ludacris verbal action he claims to find so deplorable.
 

lexbubble

Member
I commend O'Reilly for his actions about Rather. It was a tough situation for anyone to comment on, yet O'Reilly stood up and supported the battered Rather. I was impressed.
 

Phoenix

Member
tedtropy said:
To be fair, Bill was always defensive of Dan Rather ever since 'Memogate' began, whether out of personal interest or otherwise, well...they distort ?, you decide.


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