Black woman wins $250k after manager's racist rant.
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Massive Duck. C.M.
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Why, exactly?
Count Dookkake
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It seemed inevitable.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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If you're not feeling what someone calls you, you'll get taken to task for it, especially in a work environment.
I think what you really meant is that you were waiting for it.
Count Dookkake
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lol, those words mean the same thing.
ViewtifulJC
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plot twist: Count Dookkake was the manager
Yeah, is there recording of the rant somewhere online? I'd be really interested in hearing what was said to judge the context.
Also, shaking my head at this article in general. It's 2013...why do people still not recognize the difference between "nigga" and "nigger"...-___-
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Cosmo Clock 21
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It was a black person saying it to another black person. Apparently in the context of the recording it was deemed to still be offensive.
IsntChrisL
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So we can get paid out the ass because of racist rants now?
milanbaros
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So? That is like saying a woman can't be sexist or say sexist remarks against other women, which then is found offensive. Which anyone knows isn't the case. In fact sometimes women are the worst offenders of sexism against women in my workplace.
Manager is an idiot. Don't fuck around in the workplace with that.
Vanillalite
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Pretty much my feelings on the matter.
CitizenVectron
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If the rant is causing an abusive working environment then I can understand a small payout. Maybe $2,000-$5,000. But that amount?
Phat Michael
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I'd probably Lick his gooch for that much money. Ridiculous payout for something so small.
I'd like to hear what he said to the employee specifically. The article makes it sound like he was calling her a nigger and assuming she'd be ok with it. I suppose if you want to say that specifically to a friend of yours who is ok with it, go ahead, but don't assume that every person of color is the same. I personally don't like it, regardless of how you spell or pronounce it.
AbsolutBro
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I can't honestly tell if this is joking.
Count Dookkake
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That and racism both leave a bad taste in one's mouth.
Phat Michael
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Fair point but I love me the taste of ass.
Dark Octave
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No. I don't have a problem with my non-black friends using the word, because I know how they mean it, but you can't say it with the "ER" at the end. I don't even say it like that. That really does mean that I would mean it in a racist way. Another thing is that if you aren't black and use the word, understand that it is for EVERYBODY. Everybody is a nigga.
Vicetrailia
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Yeah there is that person to person difference, but there is also a matter of context, true intent and what have you.
I can be called a nigger by one of my black friends in the right context and it's nothing or even appreciated, or I can be called a nigger by said black friend in the wrong context and in the wrong tone, which could lead to a bad blood situation.
Shao Kahn on the Lawn
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The distinction really doesn't matter in this context. There are manners of speaking that are and aren't business appropriate: neither use of that word is wise in the workplace no matter how you mean it. Most employers expect a certain level of decorum and you open yourself up to a world of shit if you violate it.
It's really no different than any other word in this regard. The things I jokingly say to my friends in off hours wouldn't go over with certain parties at work.
ThroneZwei
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Now hold it there, you puppy. Where does a PUPPY like YOU get to dictate the context behind words? You're just a no nothing puppy.
I tried. Puppy just can't be used as an insult. My point is, given enough renown and usage any word can be turned into a 'bad' word, a 'curse' word, or what have you.
Anticitizen One
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Someone on facebook said the N-Word can I be awarded $250,000 for reading their racist post???
Reminds me of the Trayvon Martin case. The defense attorney kept using nigger in place of nigga during Trayvon's friend's testimony. Every time I thought to myself, "I'm pretty sure Trayvon didn't call Zimmerman a nigger..." smh.
I don't view them differently. To me it's the same as saying "going to" versus "gonna." I accept that some see a difference and I'll outwardly support any black person who does, but I would not accept being called either by anyone and I would prefer if both words lost acceptance in the black community.
I'm not arguing that. Neither form of the word is work safe. Nor do I use the words personally in any setting. I'm questioning the way the article itself is written. It just seems so out-of-touch with how the words are actually used. Like, I HIGHLY doubt the man said "This is my nigger for 30 years." That makes no sense. NOBODY says that. "Nigger" is NEVER used conversationally by black people.
After all this time
non-black
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For all intents and purposes, "nigga" and "nigger" are two completely different words with their own meanings.
Nigger is never used conversationally. Ever. It is ONLY an insult.
Nigga, on the other hand, is the word you hear black people use in reference to each other. It is the word that even non-black people can likely get away with saying these days.
I just think it's ridiculous that after all this time non-black people STILL don't understand that those two words are different, it should be so obvious at this point.
Vicetrailia
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Growing up, we used to call the police "Kittens" to their faces depending on the circumstances...often times it struck a cord. So yeah, anything can be anything due to intent, etc.
Shao Kahn on the Lawn
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You don't have to be terminated in order to have a valid case for a hostile work environment. There are a variety of legal criteria that must be met before one can successfully sue and those criteria can be fairly hard to prove.
IIRC, the damages are punitive and set by the court based on the severity of the case. I've read about cases that resulted in millions of dollars in punitive fines.
The 250K is compensatory, not punitive. My mistake.
WonkyPanda
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It's punitive.
EDIT: Oh, apparently it's compensatory? That's odd. I'll need to actually read into this then.
While he is black per the article. I personally get a little funny when Latino's say the "N" word. Come at me...
WonkyPanda
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Oh, man. I can already guess that the Plaintiff tried to place as many white people as they could during Voir Dire.
Stellactic
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I can totally understand racism to cause distress or other such emotions. I can understand racism to be a terrible thing. I can understand if the manager looses the job. I just don't understand the $250,000.
That is a ton of cash.
That is a ton of cash.
HerbertFish
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Someone please go on an offensive rant towards me so I can collect. I'll give you 4 minutes, dont hold back. Go.
Totally get your point (and agree, since I'm black), but if my black boss called me a "stupid nigga", I would be somewhat offended (think policeman scene in "Boyz N The Hood"). Not as offended I would be if my white boss called me the same thing, however.
I wouldn't exactly call it discrimination, though (not exactly sure how I'd characterize it)
My boss uses the word all the time. He's Puerto Rican btw. I've let the word slip before but he uses it excessively. I've tried talking to him about it to no avail. He also makes very crude remarks as well in front of his female staff members as well. No one has said anything because we're all kinda afraid of retaliation on his part.
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