Devolution
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If he said it all Uncle Ruckus like I can see her point.
Black woman wins $250k after manager's racist rant.
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ThroneZwei
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Well, while I can see, for example, 'Look at this stupid nigga right here' be used within friends, I think ANYONE who is just a mutual association(Boss, coworker, etc.) should not be saying shit like that to anyone for any reason. Especially in a work environment where people can just overhear.
Also, it's been a long time, but is Boyz N the Hood
The movie where the kid who's going to college gets shot at the end?
Dark Octave
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lol This is very true.
Listen, if a it a movie about the hood and one kid looks like he has potential and going to do great things. He will get shot at the end.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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It's almost like the keys you have hanging on a hook next to the door-work, school friends, work friends, mixed company. Choose an octave/lexicon
ThroneZwei
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Touche. After wiki'ing it, it is that movie though.
Here's the scene I was talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPHv_-fqdjM
I honestly would like to hear the manager's rant. A black person can indeed use the word "nigga" with a tone of hatred (like in the clip) and although while inappropriate (in a business setting), it can be used without a "discriminatory"-tone
How about everyone just stop using racial slurs because you are a decent human being who is considerate of other people? How fucking hard is that??
I wish they gave her 10 times that amount.
Yes. In fact you should take a screen shot and run to your local DA's office right now! Be sure to report back with the results.
"B!TCH" isn't a racial slur but, just so you know, bitch is the literal name for a female dog just as puppy is the literal name for a young dog. Thanks for playing.
I wish they gave her 10 times that amount.
Yes. In fact you should take a screen shot and run to your local DA's office right now! Be sure to report back with the results.
"B!TCH" isn't a racial slur but, just so you know, bitch is the literal name for a female dog just as puppy is the literal name for a young dog. Thanks for playing.
Man, get you that 250k settlement then. Make sure you record it like this woman. Just check on the legality in your state.
ThroneZwei
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I totally agree. When Dorner was, well, active, he mentioned that they(The LAPD) encouraged black cops/hispanic cops to look down on their own people when it came to arresting/confronting them, that there was a culture around doing that. I don't remember his exact words, but while he was a fucking nutbag you can't pretend something like that really doesn't happen. But that's getting off topic but I know people can be racist against their own and to use words considered 'ok' within that group in a discriminatory tone.
As for in a business setting, these days you really shouldn't say shit. Associations with a coworker are thin as a thread that even if you think you're close to a coworker, that most of the time they'll just turn around and sue the hell out of you for rubbing them the wrong way.
The $250,000 was just compensatory damages, presumably to make up for lost income. The 'punitive' damages have yet to be determined, and that's usually much greater. She hit the lottery with this jury, apparently.
I think the basic idea is that people generally don't find their own race/class to be inherently inferior to other races/classes. So in your example, if your white boss said that to you, you'd likely feel like he used the term in a superior-inferior class context, judging that you were "stupid" based not on your own merits, but rather because he sees you as a "nigga." If your black boss said the same, it's a lot more difficult to think it's because he believes his race and your race are in a superior-inferior relationship, because you've got the same race. So when he calls you "stupid nigga," the "stupid" is probably being derived from his perceptions of your personal merits rather than your race. The "nigga" portion is thus relatively inert in that context, compared to a context with a white boss.
It bothered me for a while that the word was off-limits to me just because of the color of my skin, but I eventually realized that context is king, and pure egalitarianism is impossible and must give way to other interests, such as being an empathetic person to others' situations. I will never take offence to being called "shorty" because I'm 6'2". If two short people call each other shorty, they understand there is probably no ill-intent, since it includes both of them. But if I call someone extremely short "shorty," then there's potential abuse, as it seems I'm establishing a superior-inferior relationship on immutable traits.
So I've just learned to accept that being white, I can't say "nigger." Being tall, I can't call short people "shorty." Not because I must have malicious intent if I say those things, but rather because I'm likely to cause harm by being perceived as having malicious intent. The total disregard for context that some branches of egalitarianism call for is just being willfully blind.
So... I guess what I'm saying is it's unlikely to be racial discrimination in the context you described (it could be, but it's unlikely). Rather, I would classify that as your boss being a jerk.
Vermillion
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My friend once joked about that. He had told a white friend that he "and the niggas" would be by. And he was like "she's probably wondering 'does he mean his "niggas" as in his black friends, or the white guys and the black guys?'"
How much is your career and dignity worth in Jabrovia, or whatever utopia you come from?
OldKentuckyShark
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$250,000 is way too much. How the hell do courts arrive at these numbers?
I'd let him take a dump on my chest
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I like how the article mentions that "some people" see the fact that white people can't use the word "nigger" as a double standard. I think we know who the "some people" are, and this is the only double standard they care about.
Rubbish King
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Your guys' willingness to absorb abuse (which can sometimes encourage one to bait it out from others) and perpetuate/encourage oppressive relationships as long as you "get paid" is somewhat offputting. Have some dignity! At least settle for cold milk and pizza, too.
Apeopleman
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This is seriously bad news, because other's will try to follow in this person's footsteps, and seek compensatiom for getting their feelings hurt.
Cause fuck context
ThroneZwei
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If a bear says 'nigga' in the woods, and nobody is around to hear it, is it still malicious?
Actually holy shit a bear can speak
maquiladora
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Good. Would do the exact same if I were her.
Bobby Roberts
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Hey, about this point:
I don't think "lazy" comes into it really - for a lot of people, dropping the R is just a regional/cultural dialect thing. Multiple races in multiple regions pronounce words differently.
Maybe in the 80s/90s (which is when I remember the distinction that they're two different words start to be made) it was a matter of specific word choice, but up until then (and throughout multiple forms of media: Film, TV, Music, Literature) the only difference between "Nigga" and "Nigger" WAS actually the pronunciation of the word.
The intent of the usage differed, of course, depending on who was using the word, and who they were speaking to, but I don't think the emphasis on pronunciation making a serious difference even happened until relatively recently - as an after-the-fact means to discern who meant what when they used the word, a discernment that seemed like a best guess from people who had never needed to answer the question "how come he gets to say it and I don't?" before. The answer itself seems to be predicated mostly on the comfortable stereotype that most know as "black people talk like this! White people talk like This!"
The appropriation of black culture via hip-hop in the late 80s/early 90s might have spurred this re-examination of the word, but I think the delineation you're describing is a relatively recent linguistic change, if in fact it's true for most regions/areas.
I love how people break down the -a vs -er thing
Most of it is based on the 'er' people being from a different side of the train tracks and their slang being different than the 'a' people. That's really all its ever been. The bullshit built atop that forgotten easy answer and people trying to decipher something left in plain sight for so long is still fun to watch though.
That being said, "My favorite nigger" is the best kind of racism. I wish we had that instead of this "I'm not a racist but..." fad.
Most of it is based on the 'er' people being from a different side of the train tracks and their slang being different than the 'a' people. That's really all its ever been. The bullshit built atop that forgotten easy answer and people trying to decipher something left in plain sight for so long is still fun to watch though.
That being said, "My favorite nigger" is the best kind of racism. I wish we had that instead of this "I'm not a racist but..." fad.
The Faceless Master
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good news! this verdict says that black people can't use it either! double standard abolished!!!
perfectchaos007
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I wish all words were created equal.
I disagree.
I don't say the word "nigga," and I used to be put off by it. But there comes a certain point that you have to acknowledge when the context of a word has shifted. Sure, it may have come from a bad place, but I don't think people can ignore the fact that, by insisting that "nigga" ALWAYS mean that bad thing, you're attempting to force a context on the word that, in most cases and for a sizable portion of the community, no longer exists.
Kinda like how "gay" really used to be a common used term for happy, but reversed.
bigboss370
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he never should've hired her >_>
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