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[bitbydeath]

Couldn't be any truer today.

 

[HAYA8U5A]

Alright so let's try this. First I sit down and then

 

[poppabk]

We all know how that turns out in the end though

 

[Coconutt]

Why fix something that wasnt broke to begin with

 

[TheUnicornGuy]

Why fix something that wasnt broke to begin with

I said to someone the other day that when I was a kid there was no such thing as ADHD, there were just little shits that got their asses tanned.

 

[Zathalus]

Yeah, that doesn't really work.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

I said to someone the other day that when I was a kid there was no such thing as ADHD, there were just little shits that got their asses tanned.

Same.

But something happend past 2000. Food? TV? Drugs in the mums/dads systems? Vaccines? Who the hells knows..

What I do know is Autism is through the roof and quite a few kids are utter ADHD nutters.

Something happend

 

[StueyDuck]

But the big pharmaceutical companies say pumping children with a bajillion different pills will make their lives better with absolutely 0 long term effects.

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[StueyDuck]

Same.

But something happend past 2000. Food? TV? Drugs in the mums/dads systems? Vaccines? Who the hells knows..

What I do know is Autism is through the roof and quite a few kids are utter ADHD nutters.

Something happend

Ive said in other threads but I do genuinely feel sorry for those with actual mental and physical disabilities who need actual help and care from communities , the government and medical industries.

Its really actually disgusting if you actually consider how much idiocy the "im autistic" fad was which was mostly just used to get gimmes.

Students to get extra exam time or to postpone the exam they didn't study for, to get gimme points online socially and so on.

Ive told the story on here before where a carer close to me has an autistic child to try work with both physically and financially and it really is difficult for them. True autism and aspergers and down syndrome etc really is a difficult thing to deal with as a parent, especially if you arent well off financially.

So I hope all those, 100% now onlyfans whores, feel good about that stupid fad they pushed and how they've made things far more difficult for those who truly do suffer from real afflictions, mentally and physically.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

The best cure for this is something I call "consequences".

 

[nush]

But something happend past 2000.

The internet, mobile phones and social media.

 

[Poppinfresh]

But something happend past 2000. Food? TV? Drugs in the mums/dads systems? Vaccines? Who the hells knows..

What I do know is Autism is through the roof and quite a few kids are utter ADHD nutters.

Something happend

Vaccines and Big Pharma figuring out that they could make lifelong customers out of kids

 

[ReBurn]

Yeah, that doesn't really work.

It's how they did it when I was a kid. Seemed to work for us.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

The internet, mobile phones and social media.

Vaccines and Big Pharma figuring out that they could make lifelong customers out of kids

Both, really

Now we have a society of this

And that's one you'll never reason with

Good luck everyone, we'll need it.

 

[Zathalus]

It's how they did it when I was a kid. Seemed to work for us.

Do you have ADHD? I do, and actually treating it as an adult made me far better able to focus, and frankly boosted my productivity by quite a bit. I have two kids, one with ADHD and one without. The difference between them is pretty obvious. It doesn't have to be treated exclusively with medication either.

"Seemed to work for us" is meaningless. Humorism seemed to work for thousands of years, until we realized it really didn't.

 

[ReBurn]

Do you have ADHD? I do, and actually treating it as an adult made me far better able to focus, and frankly boosted my productivity by quite a bit. I have two kids, one with ADHD and one without. The difference between them is pretty obvious. It doesn't have to be treated exclusively with medication either.

"Seemed to work for us" is meaningless. Humorism seemed to work for thousands of years, until we realized it really didn't.

I do have ADHD. I was taught to deal with it because they didn't medicate for it back then. There was an expectation of productivity despite the challenges because we weren't allowed to use it as a reason to not be productive. So I learned strategies for dealing with it that I use to this day.

 

[Zathalus]

I do have ADHD. I was taught to deal with it because they didn't medicate for it back then. There was an expectation of productivity despite the challenges because we weren't allowed to use it as a reason to not be productive. So I learned strategies for dealing with it that I use to this day.

So you were taught to deal with it? So it is actually an issue and requires that teachers and parents be aware of it? Simply sweeping it under the rug, ignoring it, or beating kids won't address or actually solve the condition.

As I said, medication isn't always the answer, as it can have side effects, and you certainly don't want to be on it for longer than is needed. That being said, I was on Ritalin for two years and it certainly helped a shit ton. Combined with actively working on it with help from my psychiatrist I am far more productive and focused then I was a few years ago, despite not being on the medication anymore.

My eldest was on medication as well, as her ability to focus was nearly nonexistent and since we switched countries she needed the help immediately to actually be able to focus on picking up the language. She is not on it anymore, but thankfully she was able to pick up Dutch and is now in a focused schooling for kids that have mild learning issues and will eventually graduate to a regular high school. The teachers awareness of the kids issues allows for a more structured approach and allows her to actually focus and become more independent in her learning. She would have struggled hard had she just been thrown into a regular classroom.

 

[Casisalive]

But the big pharmaceutical companies say pumping children with a bajillion different pills will make their lives better with absolutely 0 long term effects.

(This comment was Sponsored and paid for by Pfizer, remember our slogan, "give us money, give us money, give us money" any time you hear our name)

Safe and effective, true the science.

 

[Roni]

The artificial expectation of infinite self-improvement requires the artificial ADHD medication. You start going down the natural ADHD medication route, you'll get the natural expectation of finite, logarithmic self-improvement.

I don't wanna hear complaints about the economy later...

 

[Froggo]

But the big pharmaceutical companies say pumping children with a bajillion different pills will make their lives better with absolutely 0 long term effects.

(This comment was Sponsored and paid for by Pfizer, remember our slogan, "give us money, give us money, give us money" any time you hear our name)

I'm not on the side of big pharma, but I think beating the kids with belts and stuff would cause some long term problems too

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Both, really

No, not both. There is not a gigantic pharmaceutical cabal just waiting to make you an addict for live. Phones, media, constantly being connected and flipping between apps - it's not rocket science, go to any playground and watch what the adults are doing while their kids are playing.

 

[Dr. Suchong]

I'm sure my partner will appreciate me smacking her over the head and telling her to "deal with it"
Truly awe inspiring advice.

 

[Poppinfresh]

I'm sure my partner

Business partner?

Or are you actually talking about your wife, girlfriend, or mistress? Because if you are, why not use the correct term?

There's a lot of woke bullshit in this world, but nothing pisses me off more than people who use the term "partner" to refer to their wife/girlfriend or husband/boyfriend.

 

[Dr. Suchong]

Business partner?

Or are you actually talking about your wife, girlfriend, or mistress? Because if you are, why not use the correct term?

There's a lot of woke bullshit in this world, but nothing pisses me off more than people who use the term "partner" to refer to their wife/girlfriend or husband/boyfriend.

Weird thing to get mad about.
Partner is a perfectly acceptable way to describe your wife/girlfriend.

 

[Poppinfresh]

Weird thing to get mad about.
Partner is a perfectly acceptable way to describe your wife/girlfriend.

It's perfectly acceptable if you're a wokester or an idiot. Which one are you?

Or perhaps you're just ashamed of claiming your wife or girlfriend as your wife or girlfriend?

 

[Dr. Suchong]

It's perfectly acceptable if you're a wokester or an idiot. Which one are you?

Or perhaps you're just ashamed of claiming your wife as your wife?

Take some deep breaths friend.

 

[Poppinfresh]

There is not a gigantic pharmaceutical cabal just waiting to make you an addict for life.

Purdue Pharma would like to have a word with you, or it would if it still existed.

 

[JeTmAn81]

Bringing back child abuse might just be the solution we've been looking for

 

[kevboard]

Vaccines and Big Pharma figuring out that they could make lifelong customers out of kids

 

[Dr.Morris79]

No, not both. There is not a gigantic pharmaceutical cabal just waiting to make you an addict for live. Phones, media, constantly being connected and flipping between apps - it's not rocket science, go to any playground and watch what the adults are doing while their kids are playing.

There is quite a few medications people try to 'fix' their child's ADHD with

Try working in the field of social care to find out more.

 

[RoboFu]

Nah , my son has a real adhd problem. Ever since he was born he has just been all over the place and when he gets tired he is like in a trance state but still can't sit still. Talks constantly at 100 miles per hour and just blurts out when he knows the answer to things.

He has to work a lot harder than other kids in school to stay still and quiet.

My daughter ( his twin sister ) is the opposite, calm and can go for hours without moving lol. So it isn't an environment thing.

ADHD is very real but like most things for 1% that really needs help there is 99% just BSing the system.

 

[Zathalus]

Much of the problem stems from a difference in treatment recommendations.

In the US, ADHD medication is prescribed as the primary means of treatment instead of supplementary, diagnosis can be done by standard pediatricians without the involvement of psychiatrists, and long-term prescriptions can easily be prescribed without a specialist review.

In places like Europe, Australia, and Japan the entire process is far stricter. Amphetamine-based medications are usually restricted or outright banned, require specialists to diagnose and recommend medications, and believe in a far more in behavioral changes or environmental treatment first, with medication only as a supplement in severe cases. It also requires multi-disciplinary oversight, and long-term medication is often avoided.

So ADHD is very real, but the US is way to trigger happy when it comes to throwing medicine at the problem.

 

[kevboard]

Much of the problem stems from a difference in treatment recommendations.

In the US, ADHD medication is prescribed as the primary means of treatment instead of supplementary, diagnosis can be done by standard pediatricians without the involvement of psychiatrists, and long-term prescriptions can easily be prescribed without a specialist review.

In places like Europe, Australia, and Japan the entire process is far stricter. Amphetamine-based medications are usually restricted or outright banned, require specialists to diagnose and recommend medications, and believe in a far more in behavioral changes or environmental treatment first, with medication only as a supplement in severe cases. It also requires multi-disciplinary oversight, and long-term medication is often avoided.

So ADHD is very real, but the US is way to trigger happy when it comes to throwing medicine at the problem.

americans in general are way too triggerhappy with medicine.

like for example, I can literally count on my fingers the times I used any kind of painkiller in my life... all of them were due to medical procedures. meanwhile it seems like Americans take them like candy lol.

I also don't know anyone who uses any sort of painkiller unless it's an extreme scenario and/or directly ordered by a doctor.

 

[Mistake]

I do have ADHD. I was taught to deal with it because they didn't medicate for it back then. There was an expectation of productivity despite the challenges because we weren't allowed to use it as a reason to not be productive. So I learned strategies for dealing with it that I use to this day.

My great grandfather used to drive a standard while missing his right arm, and also tried to join the war. Your thinking is correct, at least in most cases. We all have different challenges, it's just how you navigate them

 

[Cyberpunkd]

There is quite a few medications people try to 'fix' their child's ADHD with

And those people are stupid.

 

[HRK69]

We all know how that turns out in the end though

For the parents, yeah

 

[poppabk]

For the parents, yeah

It was a later episode so maybe you didn't see it - but Ned was a crazy ADHD kid and then was spanked mon-stop for 8 months straight which turned him in to a super polite and repressed person - that eventually boils over into him going crazy.
Worth watching if just for the Dickface joke and Neds hippy parents "We've tried nothing and are all out of ideas"

 

[StueyDuck]

I'm not on the side of big pharma, but I think beating the kids with belts and stuff would cause some long term problems too

the clip from south park is an obvious joke.

I don't think anyone is saying you must beat children with belts.

the point is that there are ways to educate and discipline a child that doesn't involve stuffing their bodies and brains with chemically altering meds.

 

[bitbydeath]

the clip from south park is an obvious joke.

I don't think anyone is saying you must beat children with belts.

the point is that there are ways to educate and discipline a child that doesn't involve stuffing their bodies and brains with chemically altering meds.

The issue was discipline was that some would take it too far and people would then try to equate the abuse with discipline.

In short, this is why we can't have nice things.