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[Black Mamba]

The significance of it. Gus looked really hard for it.

What is your theory? I simply understood it in the contrast of how Gale used it (opening up the lab stuff which he's excited to play with) and Gus did (as a malicious way to murder someone).

The neon color was quite interesting.

I haven't thought about another significance, so if you got something you should share.

Almost a little weird how queasy Walt is, considering he blew a guy's brains out like 2 days ago. But I get it, as in he's still reeling on the edge of being killed himself.

Adrenaline. Plus Gus was making sure Walt saw everything as it happened right in his face.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Almost a little weird how queasy Walt is, considering he blew a guy's brains out like 2 days ago. But I get it, as in he's still reeling on the edge of being killed himself.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Just watched the scene again (oh NOW you want to work, AMC HD? THANKS.) and when Gus flicks open the box cutter, Walt gets scared and Victor smiles. Pretty clear to me where there heads were at.

 

[Black Mamba]

Just watched the scene again (oh NOW you want to work, AMC HD? THANKS.) and when Gus flicks open the box cutter, Walt gets scared and Victor smiles. Pretty clear to me where there heads were at.

Victor gets confident by that time, I agree with you. I wonder if Walt's rambling gave him confidence.

As i mentioned as I was watching it, I felt that Victor was worried and unsure until about that time, but was confident when he argued with Walt.

Everything about that scene was perfect.

 

[UrokeJoe]

What is your theory? I simply understood it in the contrast of how Gale used it (opening up the lab stuff which he's excited to play with) and Gus did (as a malicious way to murder someone).

None. I think that sums it up pretty well, just that he did make a point of using it.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Victor gets confident by that time, I agree with you. I wonder if Walt's rambling gave him confidence.

As i mentioned as I was watching it, I felt that Victor was worried and unsure until about that time, but was confident when he argued with Walt.

Everything about that scene was perfect.

It really really was. One of those TV moments where you step back and know you're watching something you'll always remember.

 

[smokeymicpot]

In the Denny's scene you can tell how much both have changed. Jesse is acting normal even though he is not. While Walter on the other side is just sitting worrying what will happen next. The tag on the shirts mean a lot but it is a little thing. Walt still has a tag on. Last season Jesse still had some innocent in him now it is all gone.

 

[Drewsky]

The next week is going to be brutal.

Almost a little weird how queasy Walt is, considering he blew a guy's brains out like 2 days ago. But I get it, as in he's still reeling on the edge of being killed himself.

I think even as a killer you could probably feel the difference between shooting someone and walking away and slitting their throats and holding their neck open until they bled out.

 

[BertramCooper]

Jeebus, what an opening. Pins and needles.

Also, Gus is jacked. I wonder if Giancarlo Esposito has always been that muscular, or if Vince Gilligan told him to bulk up during the hiatus. I never would have guessed that he'd be that buff.

 

[Discotheque]

Well I was surprised as hell at how cut the dude from Fringe and The Wire was too. He looked very skinny wearing a suit.

Clothes hide all.

 

[Drewsky]

Nah, he's been that buff. They talked about it on the S3 commentary.

Edit: He's in The Wire?

 

[Zeliard]

I love Bryan Cranston's acting and the writing when Walt's in a situation where he might die. Feels desperate and realistic. He just spills words out.

Just watched the scene again (oh NOW you want to work, AMC HD? THANKS.) and when Gus flicks open the box cutter, Walt gets scared and Victor smiles. Pretty clear to me where there heads were at.

Nobody disagrees that Victor was confident at that point. Victor thinks Walt is fucked then because Victor believes he proved to do the job well enough.

With the info we're given, Victor's hurry to start cooking can be read whichever way: that he was worried for his own skin and wanted to prove himself after fucking up with Gale (twice over), that he wanted to prove Walt was useless simply because he wanted Walt and Jesse out of the picture, or both.

Almost a little weird how queasy Walt is, considering he blew a guy's brains out like 2 days ago. But I get it, as in he's still reeling on the edge of being killed himself.

I can't imagine that Gus' matter-of-factness didn't terrify Walt even more. Guy went about killing Victor like he was trying on a new pair of pants. And it was with a box cutter, which just feels more raw.

 

[Cornballer]

Reviews and other stuff:
- Sepinwall's review
- Onion A|V Club review
- Slate.com discussion of the premiere
- Esposito and others discuss the lab scene
- Inside Breaking Bad: Episode 1 (AMC vid)
- Inside Breaking Bad: Video about the superlab with Cinematographer Michael Slovis (AMC vid)
- Online Extras from AMC (photos, videos, etc...)

 

[Dany]

Do you guys wanna go to Dennys and make a shipment with fedex?

Loved the episode, the whole gus segment was just insane and awesome. Totally loved it, especially where they use hydroflouric acid to melt someone, and actually use a container to do so, so great

 

[bucklam66]

Great opening episode for season 4, wow

 

[Snuggles]

In the Denny's scene you can tell how much both have changed. Jesse is acting normal even though he is not. While Walter on the other side is just sitting worrying what will happen next. The tag on the shirts mean a lot but it is a little thing. Walt still has a tag on. Last season Jesse still had some innocent in him now it is all gone.

I can see this being an important part of this season. Jesse is becoming detacted from his actions, maybe it's his way of coping with what he did, and he'll probably start to go off the deep end.

this gon be good

 

[smokeymicpot]

Nah, he's been that buff. They talked about it on the S3 commentary.

Edit: He's in The Wire?

Gale is in season 5 of the Wire also Flight on the Concords.

Not Gus sorry. Got confused.

 

[brianjones]

victor's body floating in the chemicals was so messed up

it was like a large fetus

 

[Spectral Glider]

Man, it's so awesome to finally have BB back.....great episode.

 

[Discotheque]

Nah, he's been that buff. They talked about it on the S3 commentary.

Edit: He's in The Wire?

oh nah nah. I'm talking about a different guy who I was surprised was buff too (lance reddick)

 

[Drewsky]

I'm so watching it again at 1.

 

[BlueTsunami]

I think the size tag still being on Walt's shirt points to the difference in composure between Walt and Jesse (who seemed to pull the tag off).

 

[Cornballer]

victor's body floating in the chemicals was so messed up

it was like a large fetus

So gross. They do such a great job with practical effects and props on this show.

 

[HIGH DEF JEFF]

Gus is in season 5 of the Wire also Flight on the Concords.

You sure you aren't thinking of Clark Johnson.

-Nice edit ; )

 

[BertramCooper]

Walt is so infuriating when he tries to use scientific jargon to make people feel stupid.

I wanted to punch him in the fucking face.

 

[smokeymicpot]

You sure you aren't thinking of Clark Johnson.

Check the edit. My mistake.

 

[metsallica]

Simply phenomenal, but did anyone expect anything less? I pity people posting about TV on this board who haven't broke bad with us.

 

[kehs]

Walt is so infuriating when he tries to use scientific jargon to make people feel stupid.

I wanted to punch him in the fucking face.

"I don't know I seem to have forgotten? Can you tell me, Professor!?"

So awesome.

 

[BigAT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKjCEjsnH2o&feature=feedrec_grec_index

My mind=blown I can't believe he was in this commercial.

The top comment is perfect.

"Yo Juicy Fruit me, Bitch!"

 

[BlueTsunami]

Walt is so infuriating when he tries to use scientific jargon to make people feel stupid.

I wanted to punch him in the fucking face.

Victor started it though! with the "genius" remark

 

[Meier]

Just got back from the screening at the Alamo Drafthouse. Fun event, cool to see it on the big screen. They didn't show the scenes for next week though.. doh!

I actually thought that once Victor admitted he was seen that Mike would off him at that moment so the fact that Gus did it wasn't very surprising but damn that was brutal. Hard to imagine that was on basic cable. The ensuing acid scene.. yuck. Can't wait to see how it all plays out.

Also, the bed pan scene was absolutely painful.

 

[JaseMath]

Great episode...I'm still not sure why Gus killed the dude though? Is it because he is a mediocre cook, or is he just trying to mind fuck Walt and Jessie?

I thought it was because he was a loose end having been seen at the crime scene; could have possible led back to Gus.

 

[cacophony]

I'm a little confused on why Gus killed Victor. At first I thought it was because he was seen at Gale's house but Gus didn't now about that.

Was it just Gus displaying his power about how even though Victor could cook he didn't care?

 

[delta25]

Wow, what an episode.


Don't fuck with Gus. I need to get a shirt with his face on it and have that as the slogan.

 

[smokeymicpot]

I'm a little confused on why Gus killed Victor. At first I thought it was because he was seen at Gale's house but Gus didn't now about that.

Was it just Gus displaying his power about how even though Victor could cook he didn't care?

Victor was seen at the crime, failed at his job protecting Gale, and talked way to much this episode.

 

[Meier]

At first I thought it was because he was seen at Gale's house but Gus didn't now about that.

They didn't show Mike's conversation with Gus -- I'm sure he mentioned it.

 

[Persona7]

Walt is so infuriating when he tries to use scientific jargon to make people feel stupid.

I wanted to punch him in the fucking face.

That scene made me think of neogaf.

 

[delta25]

I'm a little confused on why Gus killed Victor. At first I thought it was because he was seen at Gale's house but Gus didn't now about that.

Was it just Gus displaying his power about how even though Victor could cook he didn't care?

I think it has to do with the fact that he was put in charge of keeping an eye (protecting) on Gale but ended up failing miserably.

 

[Helmholtz]

Hell of an episode. I'm glad they had the balls to kill Gale off, as I had heard he might not necessarily be dead. Also that execution scene was brutal, damn.

 

[BigAT]

I'm a little confused on why Gus killed Victor. At first I thought it was because he was seen at Gale's house but Gus didn't now about that.

Was it just Gus displaying his power about how even though Victor could cook he didn't care?

Gus did know about that. Mike called him up with all the details and Mike was insistent on finding out from Victor if he had been seen at the crime scene.

 

[kehs]

I'm a little confused on why Gus killed Victor. At first I thought it was because he was seen at Gale's house but Gus didn't now about that.

Was it just Gus displaying his power about how even though Victor could cook he didn't care?

I think it was a culmination of everything.

Victor failed to prevent gale getting killed, he got seen at the scene, he didn't respect the chemistry "it's just a cook", he can't kill walt, he can't kill jesse, he got made an example of.

It was also to show them how dispensible his employees are, as in "gabe? so fucking what?". Also Walt telling him "Gale's blood is on your hands", he slices Victor for no obvious/apparent reason and throws him at walt, as if saying "Victor's blood is on your hands".

It's so layered for me...I'm in awe of this episode.

 

[Zeliard]

It was for a number of reasons: 1) Victor failing to protect Gale, 2) Victor being seen at Gale's, 3) Victor at that point being useless to Gus, 4) intimidation. Gus was actually probably a little worried, on some level. He probably didn't expect Walt had in it him to mastermind something like Gale's death in order to save himself, so he wasn't sure if Walt was also prepared to go after him. Killing Victor in such a brutal fashion as Gus did also served simply as a warning not to fuck with him.

 

[U2NUMB]

Anyone wondering why Gus killed him should watch that details of episode 1.. says it with his own words.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

holy fuck what an episode. and gus is fucking yoked!

i wonder if jesse is going to go off his rocker now.... like he has been desensitized to it all and now he just dont give a fuck

 

[Drewsky]

So how do you think the ratings were?

 

[metsallica]

I'll bet a touch better than they have been but nowhere near as good as they should be given the quality of the show / size of this thread.

 

[smokeymicpot]

So how do you think the ratings were?

Hopefully good would be better if they played reruns this whole week at a decent hour instead of 3 in the fucking morning.

 

[Cornballer]

- memles posted his review of the premiere

 

[dave is ok]

So how do you think the ratings were?

2.5 at least, I'm guessing

 

[vatstep]

So how do you think the ratings were?

I think there'll be an improvement. I feel like the show has caught on a lot over the past year. I actually know a few people who watch it now — whereas after S2 / before S3, most people I talked to didn't even know what the show was.