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Good ep.
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It's certainly a far more intimate and messy manner of killing someone than Walt's use of a car and gun. Gus was in complete control. He didn't flinch when confronting that level of violence for an extended period of time, and that's all fairly new to Walt.Zeliard said:
Episode 402 Preview on AMC site: I hope you like more product placement.
http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/breaking-bad-sneak-peek-episode-402-thirty-eight-snub
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I'm not really complaining though, because it doesn't bother me, but I figured some people may want to know.
http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/breaking-bad-sneak-peek-episode-402-thirty-eight-snub
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I'm not really complaining though, because it doesn't bother me, but I figured some people may want to know.
Uno Venova
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Great episode, man is it hard to see Hank in that position, from a fun loving guy to helpless, still he doesn't have to be such a dick to Marie though.
Not much to say, slow but excellent start to the season. Definitely was caught off guard by the use of the box cutter, but that was certainly the intent.
Enjoyed the use of acid to dispose of the body and Jesse's comment regarding it. Also, on the topic of references to past seasons, I wonder if that eyeball from the plane crash is going to ever amount to anything, seeing as how often they've shown characters sharing a moment with it.
Enjoyed the use of acid to dispose of the body and Jesse's comment regarding it. Also, on the topic of references to past seasons, I wonder if that eyeball from the plane crash is going to ever amount to anything, seeing as how often they've shown characters sharing a moment with it.
stevematic
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My God, this episode was amazing.
By far the best show on television.
By far the best show on television.
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LaneDS said:
I think of the eyeball and the acid call backs as moments when the characters changed.. Acid is for Walt and Jesse each doing things they never would of done together if they never met. Which was killing a guy together and disposing the body. They didn't even do it right the first time at least Jesse didn't. This time though Jesse knew what to do when he says "Trust Us" you see the change in him. Walter made this monster. These past few seasons Jesse wasn't the monster of the show Walt was. This season it is gonna change.
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The music and sound design in general for this episode was incredible. Also, goddamn is this show well shot.
Buckethead
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Have not watched yet.
Going to watch in 2 hours.
Cannot wait.
Going to watch in 2 hours.
Cannot wait.
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It's quite telling - could we see Walt committing the same kind of murder later in the season?Dan said:
Jack Scofield
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Wait, so Gus was pissed when two of his low-level street dealers were killed, but he doesn't bat an eye at killing his loyal right-hand man just because he was in a crowd of people at a crime scene?
And yeah, the product placement was obvious and a little off-putting.
And yeah, the product placement was obvious and a little off-putting.
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Jack Scofield said:
he doesn't like elements that are out of his control.
he's very OCD
i didn't know any product placement
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Is this really going to be in the episode? That was cringe worthy.Thoraxes said:
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fuck you if you give a shit about dennys
havent read anything about the episode at all but i just read the term "product placement". fuck you.
gus cared about his street dudes because they were important to his stranglehold of the territory at the time. he killed hoverbro because he threatened the same stranglehold.
gus is capitalism. gus is satan.. this episode was insane. i want his tie.
havent read anything about the episode at all but i just read the term "product placement". fuck you.
gus cared about his street dudes because they were important to his stranglehold of the territory at the time. he killed hoverbro because he threatened the same stranglehold.
gus is capitalism. gus is satan.. this episode was insane. i want his tie.
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never watch 24.Zeliard said:
Gus having alterior motives that we aren't privy to seems lame.tokkun said:
cacophony said:
I know a lot of other posters think it was because Victor was seen at the scene of the murder, but I wonder if there isn't a secondary motive.
Let's not forget that Gus is in the midst of a power struggle with his Mexican cartel backers. It may be that Victor had ties to the cartel that made Gus distrust him.
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Zeliard said:
oh come on
sopranos used real world products too but they never claimed benefits from the products they used
edit: i get that breaking bad is a sony show but are people really not allowed to use products in perfectly acceptable capacities
Jack Scofield said:
Yeah. He lost money since his two dealers were killed, and in a very public manner too. They were scumbags, but they were making him money. Victor did the stupid mistake of getting seen at the crime scene.
It's not a matter of them being his employees, but whether they're a liability or an asset.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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Hell fucking yeah. Brilliant premier.
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I think another hidden reason why Gus does it is because he is starting to respect the chemistry in memory of Gale...
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I think another hidden reason why Gus does it is because he is starting to respect the chemistry in memory of Gale...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rTJtVyQhN0Copernicus said:
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tokkun said:
This could be something. Victor has a reason for jumping right into cooking and when Gus came in he gave him the bro nod.
Black Mamba
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Jack Scofield said:
Gus is pissed because those are [i[his[/i] men and he is the boss. He is not to be undermined. People who undermine him are not trustworthy enough. He wants to eliminate all problems.
Victor became a problem the moment he was spotted at the crime scene. Think about it, Victor is probably on the payroll at the laundromat. So many issues with him being spotted.
To Gus, everyone is disposable. Main concern is himself then the business.
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smokeymicpot said:
he knew he was fucked, for sure.. the question is, where did Mike fit in?
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blame space said:he knew he was fucked, for sure.. the question is, where did Mike fit in?
Mike is as lost as we are at this point. The scene just came on again with Gus slicing Victors throat. When he slices it Mike holds the gun up looking like is about to shoot. All 3 of them are distraught even Jesse.
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smokeymicpot said:
i read it as defense.. he was (thinking about) protecting victor.
i could be wrong
ConfusingJazz
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Good first episode.
Loved Gus showing he was a bad ass, and despite knowing exactly who he was going to kill the minute Victor said he was seen at the scene, it was still well acted and shot. Besides, they aren't going to kill the leads, and Mike didn't do shit.
God I hope Goodman doesn't flee the country. I like him too much, and really want to see how he acts when bullets start flying.
Can't wait for the rest of the season.
Loved Gus showing he was a bad ass, and despite knowing exactly who he was going to kill the minute Victor said he was seen at the scene, it was still well acted and shot. Besides, they aren't going to kill the leads, and Mike didn't do shit.
God I hope Goodman doesn't flee the country. I like him too much, and really want to see how he acts when bullets start flying.
Can't wait for the rest of the season.
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tokkun said:
Uh, he made the best meth on the market. Pretty sure that was always the motive. Only thing different is tonight we learned it was via Gale's nudging that this idea became important.
Timeline wise, I'm certain this convo with Gale happened after the 1st meeting with Walt, which was never a meeting. Gus says something about him being in discussions with this Walt about his stuff, but didn't think it should happen (because of Jesse being a junkie).
So Gus was thinking about working with Walter from before Gale's conversation, just changed his mind because he is so careful, but Gale kind of implied it's too important to pass up.
Victor being spotted at the crime scene is an even bigger deal when you take into account Gale's lab notebook, which Gus probably doesn't even know about. If Gale and the notebook are linked to Victor, that poses a huge liability to Gus.
Gus felt he had to disappear Victor one way or another, but the method in which he took him out was entirely for Walt and Jesse's benefit. He could have had Mike take care of it quietly or done it in another more subtle way. Gus put on a show for Walt and Jesse so they'd know what the new stakes are.
Gus felt he had to disappear Victor one way or another, but the method in which he took him out was entirely for Walt and Jesse's benefit. He could have had Mike take care of it quietly or done it in another more subtle way. Gus put on a show for Walt and Jesse so they'd know what the new stakes are.
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That is very likely. This season is gonna be crazy they set up so many little things in this episode. Two main things at the end of this episode the phone and the book.
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the "Lab Notes" book is this whole season
ConfusingJazz
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Also, should I feel so bad as soon as I saw that they got the white barrel out? Or is that just what breaking bad does best, the darkest humor on TV?
And now that I think about it, damn it, I am worried they might replace Saul with Skyler, and that depresses me
The two street dealers are good money men, but are too far below on the ladder to be connected to Gus. Victor was two steps below Gus, and is a much bigger liability if he got nabbed by the feds.
And now that I think about it, damn it, I am worried they might replace Saul with Skyler, and that depresses me
Jack Scofield said:
The two street dealers are good money men, but are too far below on the ladder to be connected to Gus. Victor was two steps below Gus, and is a much bigger liability if he got nabbed by the feds.
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Zeliard said:
Not to mention, Victor didn't bother sweeping the place.
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yeah.. saul it totally outie5k at this point, right?
probably mexico
probably mexico
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blame space said:
I don't think so it will be a little thing. The phone will be more important because it has ties into Mike and Gus.
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smokeymicpot said:
two dudes with no visible ties to anything? no..
the notebook has the blue recipe.. the question is how much of a journal Gale used it as.
EDIT: Zeliard,
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If it does have the blue recipe they will think he is the mysterious Heisenberg. Didn't Victor make the call at the end of season 3 to Gale?
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Zeliard said:
Exactly. It's very multi-layered. Not just to scare the pants off thing.
Remember when Walt was rationalizing them killing Gale. He tells Gus that Gale was a good man, but if it's him or Gale, then Gale is going to go. And that it's Gus' fault.
Look at Victor from Walt's perspective. He isn't thinking about Victor being spotted (he may not even know, wasn't convinced he heard the convo) or anything else. To Walt, Victor was close to Gus and so him being slaughtered in that way was more jarring. Gus saying to Walt "I don't give a fuck about you as a person. You are mine and do what I say and if I want you to die, you will die."
Walt interprets it like he bought himself time, but jesse picks up on it correctly.
edit: saul is going nowhere. He is the comic relief in the show now that Hank/Marie are so depressing. This show has to have some comic relief and Badger/Skinny Pete couldn't possibly be enough. Even if he goes to mexico, he will be relevant.
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