Buffalo police officer fired following suspect choking incident

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Specifically, she was fired for trying to stop a fellow officer from choking a handcuffed suspect.

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When officer Horne went into the house she says Mack had already been placed under arrest.

"He was handcuffed in the front and he was sideways and being punched in the face by Gregory Kwiatkowski," explained Horne.

Horne and about 10 other officers who arrived at the scene helped drag Mack out of the home. But once outside Horne says Officer Kwiatkowski was out of control.

"Gregory Kwiatkowski turned Neal Mack around and started choking him. So then I'm like, 'Greg! You're choking him,' because I thought whatever happened in the house he was still upset about so when he didn't stop choking him I just grabbed his arm from around Neal Mack's neck," said Horne.

If that choke hold of a handcuffed suspect caught Horne off guard, it didn't prepare her for what she says Kwiatkowski did next.

"He comes up and punches me in the face and I had to have my bridge replaced," said Horne.

When Horne tried to defend herself other officers pulled her back and her shoulder was injured.

Following the incident, Horne was fired and charged with obstruction for "jumping on officer Kwiatkowski's back and/or striking him with her hands."
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And the officer who did the choking? Violence was kind of a thing for him.

Officer Kwiatkowski was forced to retire from the police department after he was suspended for choking another officer on the job, and in a separate incident, punching another officer when he was off the clock.
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That blue line tho.


thanks to Indicate for the original post
 
Well that thread title sent me for a whirl after I read OP.

So...he stopped a cop from potentially killing a suspect...and he got fired...but the cop choking the guy 'retired?'
 
Finally some justi-

for trying to stop a fellow officer from choking a handcuffed suspect.
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Silky said:
Well that thread title sent me for a whirl after I read OP.

So...he stopped a cop from potentially killing a suspect...and he got fired...but the cop choking the guy 'retired?'
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She stopped a cop from potentially killing a suspect.
 
Silky said:
Well that thread title sent me for a whirl after I read OP.

So...he stopped a cop from potentially killing a suspect...and he got fired...but the cop choking the guy 'retired?'
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The cop choking the guy later got in trouble for other instances of violence.
 
That's just - WOW.

She got fired (and lost her pension) for stopping him chocking someone, and he retired (and got to keep his pension) after chocking another officer, striking another officer whilst off duty AND shooting an unarmed teenager with a BB gun - like holy crap!!!.
 
The Cowboy said:
That's just - WOW.

She got fired (and lost her pension) for stopping him chocking someone, and he retired (and got to keep his pension) after chocking another officer, striking another officer whilst off duty AND shooting an unarmed teenager with a BB gun - like holy crap!!!.
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Not to forget that he punched her when she stopped him from choking someone. Absolutely ridicoulus
 
officer Gregory Kwiatkowski
-indicted on federal civil rights violations against black teen suspects last may
-punches handcuffed suspect
-chokeholds handcuffed suspect
-punches fellow Officer Cariol Horne
-suspended for choking another officer on the job and punching another officer when he was off the clock
-forced to retire with pension

Officer Cariol Horne
-tries to stop choking on suspect
-fired with no pension

This story exemplifies white privilege to the fullest extent.
 
Indicate said:
officer Gregory Kwiatkowski
-indicted on federal civil rights violations against black teen suspects last may
-punches handcuffed suspect
-chokeholds handcuffed suspect
-punches fellow Officer Cariol Horne
-suspended for choking another officer on the job and punching another officer when he was off the clock
-forced to retire with pension

Officer Cariol Horne
-tries to stop choking on suspect
-fired with no pension

This incident exemplifies white privilege to the fullest extent.
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Let's wait for all the facts bro, she might have been fired for an unrelated incident! She was no angel! How do we know she didn't attack Douchekowski!? Reverse racism!

/s
 
Angelus Errare said:
Let's wait for all the facts bro, she might have been fired for an unrelated incident! She was no angel! How do we know she didn't attack Douchekowski!? Reverse racism!

/s
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Douchekowski was clearly afraid for his life, he didn't know the intentions of his black colleague wasn't going to wait for her to suddenly hulk out after a binge of crack and weed and kill him outright. She shouldn't have resisted his attempts to murder a handcuffed suspect.
 
Indicate said:
officer Gregory Kwiatkowski
-indicted on federal civil rights violations against black teen suspects last may
-punches handcuffed suspect
-chokeholds handcuffed suspect
-punches fellow Officer Cariol Horne
-suspended for choking another officer on the job and punching another officer when he was off the clock
-forced to retire with pension

Officer Cariol Horne
-tries to stop choking on suspect
-fired with no pension

This story exemplifies white privilege to the fullest extent.
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The USA offers no surprises.
 
If you go to the link, it says this case happened in 2006 and her pension case is being reviewed.

Not everything is bad.

It's not entirely honest the way this story has been told and plays on the current problems America faced.


Her pension was also denied because she had not yet reached 20 years in the force.
 
It comes off like the cop story in Tales from the Hood. Almost comical in how fucked up it is.

Really goes to show the roadblocks there are to being a good cop, and how much cameras are a critical necessity.
 
I saw Buffalo in the thread title and thought it was news too good to be true.

I wish I had guessed incorrectly.
 
HarryKS said:
Her pension was also denied because she had not yet reached 20 years in the force.
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She shouldn't have been fired in the first place.
She probably effectively saved a human's life.

I mean even if she jumped on him and everything, why would that be a problem? Crazy psychopathic officer, that effectively tried to kill a suspect, gets taken down by good officer. Good officer should keep her job. Simple as that. Unless of course the government actually wants psychopathic and crazy officers. With that in mind, it would make sense to fire her.
 
Indicate said:
officer Gregory Kwiatkowski
-indicted on federal civil rights violations against black teen suspects last may
-punches handcuffed suspect
-chokeholds handcuffed suspect
-punches fellow Officer Cariol Horne
-suspended for choking another officer on the job and punching another officer when he was off the clock
-forced to retire with pension

good-cop-fired.jpg


Officer Cariol Horne
-tries to stop choking on suspect
-fired with no pension
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hm..

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/po...ops-buffalo-officer-fired-stopping-brutality/

19 years on the force and Gregory Kwiatkowski even said "she never got on top of me"

I dont understand the law system in America at all.
 
This reminds me of a recent local story where a campus police officer is under investigation and may be fired for not tazing a suicidal student.

It's really frightening to think about. There's a pressure from other cops to use a certain level of force in a given circumstance because their consensus legitimates that particular use of force. Undermining or questioning that consensus seems to be a way easier way for a cop to get fired than any excesses they might commit.
 
jimi_dini said:
She shouldn't have been fired in the first place.
She probably effectively saved a human's life.

I mean even if she jumped on him and everything, why would that be a problem? Crazy psychopathic officer, that effectively tried to kill a suspect, gets taken down by good officer. Good officer should keep her job. Simple as that. Unless of course the government actually wants psychopathic and crazy officers. With that in mind, it would make sense to fire her.
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I don't think she should have been fired. I just wanted to present the facts about the case.

She did not lose the pension because of what she did, it happened because of a technicality which is unrelated.

It seemed like the general idea going around from the OP was putting the issue of not receiving the pension because she decided to do her job.
 
The scary thought is, this officer did her job and was unjustly punished for doing her job of protecting and serving the public even if it was somebody they arrested....

Imagine the hundreds or thousands of officer hornes that do not take action and keep their mouths shut because of fear or retaliation patrolling our streets...
 
HarryKS said:
She did not lose the pension because of what she did, it happened because of a technicality which is unrelated.
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It's not unrelated. She saved a suspect's life. She gets fired. And that simply happens 1 year before her being 20 years on the job. Her being fired directly caused it. And there was no reason to fire her. At all.

And it's of course silly that a crazy and psychopathic police officer even keeps his pension. He shouldn't. He should be put in jail and after that he should get put into a mental institution.

It seemed like the general idea going around from the OP was putting the issue of not receiving the pension because she decided to do her job.
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She was effectively fired for doing her job properly, which then resulted in her not getting pension. All of that is silly.
 
HarryKS said:
She did not lose the pension because of what she did, it happened because of a technicality which is unrelated.
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She lost her pension because she was fired due to her actions, which stopped her reaching 20 years. It's directly related.

HarryKS said:
If you go to the link, it says this case happened in 2006 and her pension case is being reviewed.

Not everything is bad.
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The sun was shining that day. Not everything is bad.

Why are you going to such lengths to play this down?
 
HarryKS said:
I don't think she should have been fired. I just wanted to present the facts about the case.

She did not lose the pension because of what she did, it happened because of a technicality which is unrelated.

It seemed like the general idea going around from the OP was putting the issue of not receiving the pension because she decided to do her job.
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Does your brain hurt when you try to make that argument?
 
Mammoth Jones said:
I expect an outpouring of support from all the good cops out there...
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And then they'll be punched in the face and fired.

How many stories does it take for people to realize law enforcement is designed to vomit out the good guys and absorb the bad guys.

Not all cops are doing bad things but most are complicit or apathetic. Bad cops run the system.
 
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