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[SaitoH]

In a post that got copied into the OP, I mentioned that you would be able to find shots that "prove" that both versions are superior. It's also not true that the 360 has better framerate or image quality across the board. I'm really not sure where people are getting that one from - we spent an unbelievable amount of time and effort making sure that both versions were up to the same level of quality. You can't tell any difference between them in the side to side videos.

The platforms are seriously different, guys. You can't take the same chunk of code and just run it on both and have it behave the same. I'm really not sure at all why people WANT our game to be crap on the PS3.

Worth quoting.

 

[The Lamonster]

I just finished playing that

Spoiler

gunship level last nite. Thought it was pretty cool but it was kinda weird going from insane gun fights to this lull. Im guessing it was intentional by the devs to give gamers a break? If so, then the effort wasn't that bad, but it could have used way more enemies, especially tanks or other vehicles.

It was fun, but it felt a bit out of place.

d00d spoiler tag that shit yo

 

[InterMoniker]

Nah, it's not the whole forum, it's just a small group of people banding together and being childish.

You know when you go on Xbox Live and you can hear what sounds like a 12 year old boy making stupid noises, talking shit, screaming insults and gereally being a pain in the ass? Well that's what this thread has turned into.

What's worse is that most of the people being childish are probably twice that age.

 

[Masta_Killah]

d00d spoiler tag that shit yo

Wasn't really worth spoilering imo. People have talked about it unspoiled already and I didn't talk about the story and dialogue that was going on, which is what makes it a great bit. But I'll edit it for ya

 

[Metalmurphy]

Resizing.

Look at the hands' width, it is different in both pics.

The right on pic (PS3) has been RESIZED horizontally.

EDIT: that's my guess

You have good eyes xD But that wouldn't make it sharper like that. As dark10x said it's most likely due to the fact that 360 is connected through VGA.

as others have said (in criticism of the comparison actually) the PS3 shots appear to have undergone sharpening, when the 360 shots appear to be soft. of course that could be a combination of TV settings on inputs not being the same and so on, or indeed, that the PS3 version is 'sharper' despite running at the exact same resolution.

I know That's exactly why it isn't Photoshop fault.

 

[Borys]

Well, duh. This is really just a bumfight over a nice piece of cardboard.

:lol

 

[kitch9]

In a post that got copied into the OP, I mentioned that you would be able to find shots that "prove" that both versions are superior. It's also not true that the 360 has better framerate or image quality across the board. I'm really not sure where people are getting that one from - we spent an unbelievable amount of time and effort making sure that both versions were up to the same level of quality. You can't tell any difference between them in the side to side videos.

The platforms are seriously different, guys. You can't take the same chunk of code and just run it on both and have it behave the same. I'm really not sure at all why people WANT our game to be crap on the PS3.

its not. I've just got it today and it is absolutely friggen incredible. I've had two of my mates ring me today just to tell me how awesome it is.

The multi is digital crack.

Don't listen to some of these guys, they are loons. I've played both versions and they are both great.

If I nitpick I'd say the PS3 had more AF giving the textures a better look at a distance, but if I stood facing a wall, the 360 may have a slight edge IN SOME AREAS.

Some need to get over it here and just enjoy this masterpiece.

 

[FirewalkR]

A better question is, how many SAS missions do I have to look forward to? Lots, I hope, because that's why I bought the game in the first place.

Good man.

Can't wait for the SAS awesomeness, when the game is actually released in Portugal, next week maybe, i guess.

 

[JB1981]

YES, exactly. Thank you.

The reason I selected the PS3 version is simple: I was told they were the same and the PS3 hardware is much more reliable (I'd rather build a collection around a reliable console). The differences are much greater than I had thought. I've noticed all of the flaws while playing but did not realize that the 360 version does not suffer from them. Now that I see the truth, I'm disappointed that my experience is not what it could be.

I'd like to say I told you so but I am full of rich, creamy, you know what, right?

Anyway, I may not be the most technically-savvy guy on the board but I have eyes like a hawk, and If I say one game looks better than another for whatever reason, you should probably take note.

 

[strikeselect]

holy crap, M16 + silencer + bandolier + double tap = BEAST

try it out and see what it feels like to be satan for a day :lol

 

[Kosma]

holy crap, M16 + silencer + bandolier + double tap = BEAST

try it out and see what it feels like to be satan for a day :lol

What does Bandolier do?

 

[Dartastic]

I wish I could call an aitstrike on this thread. You guys are the biggest piles of shit on the Internet, congrats.

I'd rather have a Heli, cause then I'd have a 7 kill streak and I'd have already called the airstrike in.

 

[strikeselect]

What does Bandolier do?

more ammo

 

[dark10x]

I'd like to say I told you so but I am full of rich, creamy, you know what, right?

Anyway, I may not be the most technically-savvy guy on the board but I have eyes like a hawk, and If I say one game looks better than another for whatever reason, you should probably take note.

That's the thing, by the time I saw your posts, I had already purchased the PS3 version.

 

[Kosma]

more ammo

I'm unsure...could you get UAV Jammer instead of bandolier (only level 16 myself so still don't know which perks are in which tree)?

Then you could never be seen on radar with the silencer....stealth death!

 

[Dast]

I'm unsure...could you get UAV Jammer instead of bandolier (only level 16 myself so still don't know which perks are in which tree)?

Then you could never be seen on radar with the silencer....stealth death!

Bandolier goes in the first perk slot and UAV jammer in the second so you can have both.

 

[strikeselect]

I'm unsure...could you get UAV Jammer instead of bandolier (only level 16 myself so still don't know which perks are in which tree)?

Then you could never be seen on radar with the silencer....stealth death!

nah, UAV Jammer is in the 2nd perk slot so you could use both but yeah I have a stealth class stored for any situations I might need it.


M16 + silencer + bandolier + uav jammer = they never know what hit them :lol

 

[dark10x]

In a post that got copied into the OP, I mentioned that you would be able to find shots that "prove" that both versions are superior. It's also not true that the 360 has better framerate or image quality across the board. I'm really not sure where people are getting that one from - we spent an unbelievable amount of time and effort making sure that both versions were up to the same level of quality. You can't tell any difference between them in the side to side videos.

The platforms are seriously different, guys. You can't take the same chunk of code and just run it on both and have it behave the same. I'm really not sure at all why people WANT our game to be crap on the PS3.

I do not believe that the PS3 port is of poor quality. It certainly is a step above most other efforts. I am, however, disappointed that texture quality was never mentioned. The PS3 version literally seems to use half resolution textures across the board. Regardless of framerate or image quality talk, that right there is a significant difference and was NEVER touched upon by anyone. I immediately noticed the poor quality textures but expected it was the same across both machines. Now that I see that isn't the case, I'm even more disappointed.

 

[Hunter D]

more ammo

Don't have the game yet, but I will have it by the end of the month. Can you explain why more ammo makes the gun better?

 

[MaX_PL]

ok just got my free copy.

the visuals in basic training are awful. the beta looked much better. maybe its just basic training.

 

[strikeselect]

Don't have the game yet, but I will have it by the end of the month. Can you explain why more ammo makes the gun better?

double tap increases rate of fire, which means ammo gets used up faster. To combat this, I add bandolier which gives me more ammo to continue on my killing adventures.

 

[RavenFox]

I just finished playing that

Spoiler

gunship level last nite. Thought it was pretty cool but it was kinda weird going from insane gun fights to this lull. Im guessing it was intentional by the devs to give gamers a break? If so, then the effort wasn't that bad, but it could have used way more enemies, especially tanks or other vehicles. It was fun, but it felt a bit out of place.

If you ever seen footage of this in reality this is very similar to how its played out.

 

[Hunter D]

double tap increases rate of fire, which means ammo gets used up faster. To combat this, I add bandolier which gives me more ammo to continue on my killing adventures.

Thanks, I haven't played this game since the beta so its good to learn about the new set ups.

How is the mini Uzi in the final game? In the beta you got speed advantage when using it because it was so light and was spray and pray multi heat shot greatness in the beta.

 

[PhatSaqs]

I wonder what dailygame thinks...

 

[Rur0ni]

The epilogue after credits mission is the best part of the game.

 

[rubso]

I wonder what dailygame thinks...

:lol

 

[TTP]

It's also not true that the 360 has better framerate or image quality across the board. I'm really not sure where people are getting that one from - we spent an unbelievable amount of time and effort making sure that both versions were up to the same level of quality. You can't tell any difference between them in the side to side videos.

Well, what can I say? The framerate and the image quality of the 360 version IS better across the board. Plus, it has higher res textures and shadows. Saying this is not true is plain and simple a lie. I dunno how much time you spent to make sure that both version were up to the same quality but either you failed, you developed the PS3 version on SD displays or we have different opinions about what "same quality" means.

 

[golem]

If you ever seen footage of this in reality this is very similar to how its played out.

the video

Spoiler

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4196355876653735555

 

[The Lamonster]

If you ever seen footage of this in reality this is very similar to how its played out.

That's why it's such a damn impressive level!

 

[Calen]

Saying this is not true is plain and simple a lie.

Ok, so I'm a liar now? Nice.

The shadow resolution is identical on both consoles. This is a fact. Like I said in my example waaaay back when, they're filtered differently and IMO the PS3's version looks better in more situations.

If everything's as bad as you say, why aren't there horrible obvious differences in all the HD comparison videos that people have been doing? You don't really think we should have spent more time making the game look perfect when you're standing still staring at the ground...right?

Edited to add, this is the last time I'm going to comment on this sort of thing - I know there's no chance I'm going to change anyone's mind.

 

[Goreomedy]

Ok, so I'm a liar now? Nice.

The shadow resolution is identical on both consoles. This is a fact. Like I said in my example waaaay back when, they're filtered differently and IMO the PS3's version looks better in more situations.

If everything's as bad as you say, why aren't there horrible obvious differences in all the HD comparison videos that people have been doing? You don't really think we should have spent more time making the game look perfect when you're standing still staring at the ground...right?

Now get onto Live/PSN/PC and play in some of our parties so we can improve our win ratios.

 

[Calen]

Now get onto Live/PSN/PC and play in some of our parties so we can improve our win ratios.

Be careful what you ask for - I kind of suck

 

[OverHeat]

The game look great. Except for those low rez bitmap background ( like in the training level and a lot of SAS level) remind me of Quake 3.

 

[dark10x]

The shadow resolution is identical on both consoles. This is a fact. Like I said in my example waaaay back when, they're filtered differently and IMO the PS3's version looks better in more situations.

Actually, look at the shadows below each gun and you can CLEARLY see that the resolution is different between them.

 

[OverHeat]

He said IMO the PS3's version looks better in more situations not in all situation like the exemple above,

 

[Luckyman]

Now we have Assassin's Creed shipping next week only for PS3 (with the 360 version coming a week later).

:lol WTF?

 

[f@luS]

Well, what can I say? The framerate and the image quality of the 360 version IS better across the board. Plus, it has higher res textures and shadows. Saying this is not true is plain and simple a lie. I dunno how much time you spent to make sure that both version were up to the same quality but either you failed, you developed the PS3 version on SD displays or we have different opinions about what "same quality" means.

Wow, talking about a IW guy saying "liar"? I have both COD4 , and it looks the same seriously, and both are having some little framerate issues...

 

[AdmiralViscen]

The pic I posted was about the shadows, not the gun or environment. But I wasn't being serious anyway, hence

edit: dark10 busted on me before, then reiterates my "point" :lol

 

[dejan]

I'm interested in this game (pc version) so I was skimming through the last pages of this thread and ... I'm really looking forward to the next multiplatform game thread on NeoGAF.

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

I'm interested in this game (pc version) so I was skimming through the last pages of this thread and ... I'm really looking forward to the next multiplatform game thread on NeoGAF.

Tune in to when Assassin's Creed is out on both consoles. We will go thru the same thing presumably.

 

[PhatSaqs]

I'm interested in this game (pc version) so I was skimming through the last pages of this thread and ... I'm really looking forward to the next multiplatform game thread on NeoGAF.

:lol

I wonder why we didnt have many threads like this last gen.

 

[Calen]

Actually, look at the shadows below each gun and you can CLEARLY see that the resolution is different between them.

Except that it isn't different resolutions. The PS3 filtering makes larger, smoother steps with more individual shades in them. If the 360 shot was clearer, you could see that the filtering makes more steps but they're not blended, such that you can see individual blocks of changing color as opposed to a smooth gradient.

The PS3 shadows look softer, in motion, which I personally prefer. The maps themselves are the same size, memory cost, etc. etc.

 

[AdmiralViscen]

:lol

I wonder why we didnt have many threads like this last gen.

Because no one felt the need to rabidly prove that their console nerfed another.

XBox had a clear superiority in capability, and a clear inferiority in sales. There was no reason for people to try to convince others that XBox was more powerful than PS2 (and if they did, it wouldn't get blown back in their face), and there was no reason to argue the finer points of how XBox's superiority would affect the generation (which had already been decided).

 

[Shogmaster]

Actually, look at the shadows below each gun and you can CLEARLY see that the resolution is different between them.

Dude... He made the game... Can you go outside and get some fresh air or something?

 

[CajoleJuice]

I hate the gaming forum. I really do.

 

[MCD]

Are we really arguing with Calen? an IW employee about his game?

why would anyone wanna get owned this hard? lol.

 

[Eric WK]

I hate the gaming forum. I really do.

I'll pass you the gun once I'm done with it.

 

[Burger]

What a hive of scum and villainy.

Calling out a developer who made such an incredible game, get a fucking grip.

 

[Wollan]

Best multiplayer experience I've had this year (which at this date should make it multiplayer goty, even in the face of a excellent (but tired) UT). It feels SO right.

 

[K' Dash]

Just got my copy, but I'm working right now can't wait.