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Can someone help me figure out how to make Doom run better on my PC?

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Afrocious

Member
I've seen the Doom thread but a lot of that goes over my head. I took an unintentional break from serious PC gaming for about 2-3 years, so I don't know what parts I should upgrade or not. Doom is running too slow for me and I'd like to fix that.

Because I don't know what to look for, I was hoping folks could tell me.

I have my dxdiag info:

Code: 
         Operating System: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (10.0, Build 10586) (10586.th2_release_sec.160527-1834)
                 Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
      System Manufacturer: MSI
             System Model: MS-7816
                     BIOS: BIOS Date: 06/07/13 09:09:32 Ver: 04.06.05
                Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4570 CPU @ 3.20GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.2GHz
                   Memory: 8192MB RAM
      Available OS Memory: 8120MB RAM
                Page File: 8083MB used, 10276MB available
              Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
          DirectX Version: 12
      DX Setup Parameters: Not found
         User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
       System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
          DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
                 Miracast: Available, with HDCP
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
           DxDiag Version: 10.00.10586.0000 64bit Unicode

Code: 
Card name: AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series
       Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
          Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x6819)
           DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
        Device Type: Full Device
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6819&SUBSYS_32641682&REV_00
     Display Memory: 6090 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 2030 MB
      Shared Memory: 4060 MB
       Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
      Monitor Model: ASUS VH236H
         Monitor Id: ACI23F2
        Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
        Output Type: HDMI

As for my cpu it's a i5-4570 @ 3.2 GHz quad core IIRC

I'll update the OP.
 
E

EchoChamber

Member
Thrash everything and buy 3 titans and a one of those Intel processors with a black sticker and everything will be alright.
 
Kurt Russell

Kurt Russell

Member
Afrocious said:
I've seen the Doom thread but a lot of that goes over my head. I took an unintentional break from serious PC gaming for about 2-3 years, so I don't know what parts I should upgrade or not. Doom is running too slow for me and I'd like to fix that.

Because I don't know what to look for, I was hoping folks could tell me.

I have my dxdiag info:

Code: 
         Operating System: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (10.0, Build 10586) (10586.th2_release_sec.160527-1834)
                 Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
      System Manufacturer: MSI
             System Model: MS-7816
                     BIOS: BIOS Date: 06/07/13 09:09:32 Ver: 04.06.05
                Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4570 CPU @ 3.20GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.2GHz
                   Memory: 8192MB RAM
      Available OS Memory: 8120MB RAM
                Page File: 8083MB used, 10276MB available
              Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
          DirectX Version: 12
      DX Setup Parameters: Not found
         User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
       System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
          DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
                 Miracast: Available, with HDCP
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
           DxDiag Version: 10.00.10586.0000 64bit Unicode
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Videocard? I mean, you left out the most important part.
 
R

Ricerocket

Member
Can't tell from that because no GPU is shown.

What I can see is
CPU - i5 4570 (3.2Ghz)
8GB Ram

which should be more than sufficient provided you have a decent GPU to go with them.
 
T

TheExodu5

Banned
We need to know your graphics card.

Judging by your system memory, it sounds like it's a dedicated GPU, but it could be a slow one.
 
D

dcassell

Banned
Your processor seems to be fine, as well as ram. Your graphics card isn't listed there, do you know which one you have installed? That'll probably be the deciding factor on performance here
 
C

CHC

Member
What video card do you have? That's going to make the difference. You have a fairly modern processor and adequate amounts of RAM.
 
G

galv

Unconfirmed Member
Need your GPU to know.

CPU is more than fine, probably will not be the bottleneck.

8GB more RAM is cheap as shit, more games are going over that 8GB mark so you may want to invest in that going forward, not sure if DOOM is one of them. But without GPU specs, can't really help you right now.
 
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Afrocious

Member
Ok let me check what GFX card I have and CPU.

Here's my card info. I think its a AMD Radeon 7870 -

Code: 
Card name: AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series
       Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
          Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x6819)
           DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
        Device Type: Full Device
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6819&SUBSYS_32641682&REV_00
     Display Memory: 6090 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 2030 MB
      Shared Memory: 4060 MB
       Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
      Monitor Model: ASUS VH236H
         Monitor Id: ACI23F2
        Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
        Output Type: HDMI

As for my cpu it's a i5-4570 @ 3.2 GHz quad core IIRC

I'll update the OP.
 
Kurt Russell

Kurt Russell

Member
Afrocious said:
Ok let me check what GFX card I have and CPU.

Here's my card info. I think its a AMD Radeon 7870 -

Code: 
Card name: AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series
       Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
          Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x6819)
           DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
        Device Type: Full Device
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6819&SUBSYS_32641682&REV_00
     Display Memory: 6090 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 2030 MB
      Shared Memory: 4060 MB
       Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
      Monitor Model: ASUS VH236H
         Monitor Id: ACI23F2
        Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
        Output Type: HDMI

As for my cpu it's a i5-4570 @ 3.2 GHz quad core IIRC

I'll update the OP.
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At 1080p ultra settings it should run badly (around 30fps)
I'd lower settings and try that way. Also, update your drivers if you haven't, etc (GPU drivers)
 
Giolon

Giolon

Member
You need to get more RAM. Doom takes up to 5GB alone while it's running on my PC.

16GB RAM minimum these days.
 
A

Afrocious

Member
I think I updated my drivers on the card already, but I'll check again.

So I should probably invest in more RAM? Also as for a graphics card, what should I look at? I'd like to run Doom at 60fps or at least as fast as it was on the PS4 (though I think it's 30 fps there, it didn't have slowdown and looked good enough.)
 
J

jingletard

Neo Member
Turn everything down to Medium in the graphics options
Turn the resolution scaling to 80%
Finally, VSYNC should be set to Adaptive and not on or off

Your framerate should be 100x better after that.
 
T

Trace

Banned
Your CPU is fine for the moment, if you have some cash to spare I'd grab a new graphics card personally. You can get one that is easily 3-4x as powerful.

Afrocious said:
I think I updated my drivers on the card already, but I'll check again.

So I should probably invest in more RAM? Also as for a graphics card, what should I look at? I'd like to run Doom at 60fps or at least as fast as it was on the PS4 (though I think it's 30 fps there, it didn't have slowdown and looked good enough.)
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Doom is 60fps on PS4. If you're willing to spend $400-500 grab a GTX 1070. Crazy performance on that card.
 
Auto_aim1

Auto_aim1

MeisaMcCaffrey
Afrocious said:
I think I updated my drivers on the card already, but I'll check again.

So I should probably invest in more RAM? Also as for a graphics card, what should I look at? I'd like to run Doom at 60fps or at least as fast as it was on the PS4 (though I think it's 30 fps there, it didn't have slowdown and looked good enough.)
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Go for a 1070 if you can. 8GB RAM is fine, but having 16GB doesn't hurt. You need a GPU upgrade that's all.
 
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Horsemama1956

Member
Giolon said:
You need to get more RAM. Doom takes up to 5GB alone while it's running on my PC.

16GB RAM minimum these days.
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8GB is fine. The more memory you have the more will be "used" by Windows. Most games still run fine on 4GB RAM, even if they "require" 6-8GB. CoD being the exception for whatever reason.
 
A

Afrocious

Member
Trace said:
Your CPU is fine for the moment, if you have some cash to spare I'd grab a new graphics card personally. You can get one that is easily 3-4x as powerful.
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Which would you recommend?


Auto_aim1 said:
Go for a 1070 if you can. 8GB RAM is fine, but having 16GB doesn't hurt. You need a GPU upgrade that's all.
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Yeah 16GB wouldn't hurt. I should check and see what kind of RAM I have, but do you have any recommendations?

Krejlooc said:
is your EMM386 disabled? Have you configured your autoexec.bat and system.ini correctly? Turbo button off?
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I haven't done any of this I think. I don't know what EMM386 is.

jingletard said:
Turn everything down to Medium in the graphics options
Turn the resolution scaling to 80%
Finally, VSYNC should be set to Adaptive and not on or off

Your framerate should be 100x better after that.
Click to expand...

I'll give this a try.
 
T

Trace

Banned
Krejlooc said:
is your EMM386 disabled? Have you configured your autoexec.bat and system.ini correctly? Turbo button off?
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L

LelouchZero

Member
How does Doom run on your PC and at what graphical settings?

Your CPU is fine, and it seems that you have a 7800 series GPU, I'm not sure if it's a 7870 or 7850 though.

Judging by your specs in most games you're probably going to be GPU-bound instead of CPU limited.

Also, if you're looking for new ram I highly advise going with memory speeds of a minimum of 1866MHz-2133MHz and above, DDR3 ram has gotten alot cheaper over the years.

8GB is okay but 12GB and above is probably your best bet for the future.
 
S

Sad Affleck

Member
As much as I enjoyed these old-timey PC config jokes we shouldn't confuse the OP with them :) A 7870 should be powerful enough to run Doom at slightly better than PS4 settings, unless there is a driver issue I'm not aware of. What kind of graphics settings are you using ingame? The advice about turning everything to medium and using adaptive vsync was solid.

Edit: You did it, yay! Enjoy the game!
 
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Afrocious

Member
Sad Affleck said:
As much as I enjoyed these old-timey PC config jokes we shouldn't confuse the OP with them :) A 7870 should be powerful enough to run Doom at slightly better than PS4 settings, unless there is a driver issue I'm not aware of. What kind of graphics settings are you using ingame? The advice about turning everything to medium and using adaptive vsync was solid.

Edit: You did it, yay! Enjoy the game!
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Thank you for being considerate. The reason I made this thread is because I'm not in the most stable state and I didn't feel like going through the Doom config thread and stressing myself out.

Echoplx said:
Wait you didn't try turning down the graphics settings before making this thread?
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I did but for some reason the framerate was still sub 30.
 
Kurt Russell

Kurt Russell

Member
Afrocious said:
Thank you for being considerate. The reason I made this thread is because I'm not in the most stable state and I didn't feel like going through the Doom config thread and stressing myself out.



I did but for some reason the framerate was still sub 30.
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Don't worry, I think that making this thread wasn't a bad idea, since now you also have an idea about what you may need to upgrade in the future.
And turning down presets is always a finicky thing, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. That's why I always recommend going setting by setting instead of an all inclusive thing.
Glad to see that you made it work well :) it's a really good game.
 
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