Canadian ISPs = suck

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Ok, so I'm sick of Rogers and their bandwidth limit bullshit.

So far the only other provider I've heard of with high limits is Tek Savvy.

Is this my only option or are there any other ISPs out there that I haven't heard of?
 
Try reading about Australian ISPs, or American ISPs and their evil anti-net neutrality plans and illegal music download reporting. We have it easy in Canada.
 
Virtually all DSL providers will be leasing bandwidth from Bell.

Any DSL provider that advertises that they don't throttle traffic. They may not throttle your traffic, but Bell throttles their traffic.





And seriously, how much are you downloading? Even when I go download-happy I never exceed my 60GB/mo cap with Rogers.
 
LiveFromKyoto said:
Try reading about Australian ISPs, or American ISPs and their evil anti-net neutrality plans and illegal music download reporting. We have it easy in Canada.

Except you have thought crimes there. At least we have to actually do something. :'(
 
baultista said:
And seriously, how much are you downloading? Even when I go download-happy I never exceed my 60GB/mo cap with Rogers.
Games can be anywhere from 5-15 gigs and I download at least a few per month. 60 GB/month is easy to hit.
 
baultista said:
Virtually all DSL providers will be leasing bandwidth from Bell.

Any DSL provider that advertises that they don't throttle traffic. They may not throttle your traffic, but Bell throttles their traffic.





And seriously, how much are you downloading? Even when I go download-happy I never exceed my 60GB/mo cap with Rogers.


Things can go quite high with roomates. We do around 250gb in the appartment each month.
 
silverbullet1080 said:
Rogers bumped me from 7mbps up to 10 for no extra charge and no apparent reason.

Apparently on the 15th they're gonna be upgrading their Extreme and Extreme Plus plans too. Extreme is going up to what Extreme Plus now is, so you get a 95 GB cap and 25mbps down for $60. Extreme Plus is going higher than that. I'm actually somewhat satisfied by that considering I've been using the 10 mbps/60 GB plan, even though it is a sham.
 
Hey, it's this thread again.

CRTC blows, and competition between ISPs, and cell phone/data plans are laughable. Keep it 'Canadian'.. right.. and rape us as the same time.

I have TekSavvy (outsourced Bell), for my internet, and I only have a pay-as-you go for a cell phone. Otherwise I use Skype. Fuck the system.
 
Acanac. http://www.acanac.com/

$19 tax included for the first year, $35 after that.
No download limit / Bandwidth caps.
SSH + support so that you don't get torrent throttles
100GB of online storage.

I don't understand why more people don't use them.
They are godsend.

Any DSL provider that advertises that they don't throttle traffic. They may not throttle your traffic, but Bell throttles their traffic.

I can confirm 100% that i do not get any throttles using the SSH solution that Acanac provides (which is basically run a tiny app to connect at startup). I get 400K/S on my torrents even during peak hours.

Edit: Update my post with their current into
 
I'm with Bell here in NS and pay $60/month. Overpriced for what I get, but the bill gets split 3 ways so it's not too bad.

On the bright side, there's no bandwidth cap...yet.
 
Welcome to telecoms.

I don't know how I could live with myself if I worked for one of them. Ingrained bureaucracy, coasting on their ancient capital.
 
I moved a while ago and the reason I haven´t signed up for an internet connection yet is that I can´t think of a single Canadian ISP that isn´t pure fucking evil.
 
dream said:
I read that Shaw has 100mbit with a 400 gig cap now...

:O I want that. Although I don't really need more than 100gig, 60 gig a month is mostly fine for me if I watch and maintain what I download however my siblings are getting older and more download/streaming crazy which eats up most of my bandwidth.:(
 
Teksavvy here. They just re-sell the line but let us do 6Mbps with as much bandwith as we wanna pay for. No throttling or restrictions.
 
I'm with Videotron, wich is affiliated with Cogeco I believe.

I have a cap of 30gig combined up/down. If you go over the cap, they charge you 8$ for each additional gig up to 50$ !!! If thats not bullshit, I don't know what is.

With all the recent Steam/D2Drive and GOG deal, I was having a colossal backlog of game I couldn't download due to that stupid cap. Let alone use any kind of netflix services or anything that is remotely demanding on the bandwidth.

This month I said, Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu I'm busting this $hit ! I am now at 430gigs and I still have 6 days before the end of the months. If there is an alarm for excessive downloaders, it must be all set on my house. :lol
 
Mareg said:
I'm with Videotron, wich is affiliated with Cogeco I believe.

I have a cap of 30gig combined up/down. If you go over the cap, they charge you 8$ for each additional gig up to 50$ !!! If thats not bullshit, I don't know what is.

With all the recent Steam/D2Drive and GOG deal, I was having a colossal backlog of game I couldn't download due to that stupid cap. Let alone use any kind of netflix services or anything that is remotely demanding on the bandwidth.

This month I said, Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu I'm busting this $hit ! I am now at 430gigs and I still have 6 days before the end of the months. If there is an alarm for excessive downloaders, it must be all set on my house. :lol


spend the extra 15 bucks and get their ultra high speed 10 Mbps plan which gives you 100 GB up/down. The extra speed is a little bonus but the kicker is the bandwidth cap.

it’s still not great (or even good as I hit the ceiling every month) but at least you won’t go over the limit downloading game demos and hi def youtube videos.

edit: whoa 430 GB. never mind. that’s outta control. you’re boned no matter what plan you got :lol
 
I'm with Novus, a local company that does the wiring in apartment buildings for fiber optic connection. My download speed is insane and it's cheap but even this has a limit.

I didn't know I had a limit until I got a warning email. Not really a big deal though, I had to downloaded over 60GB which isn't normal. So I don't mind a reasonable limit around there, 60-80GB.
 
baultista said:
And seriously, how much are you downloading? Even when I go download-happy I never exceed my 60GB/mo cap with Rogers.

When you get parents that love their shitty Indian and Pakistani television and watch it almost 24 hours daily on this crappy little internet TV box, then we'll talk. I hate the fact that Rogers combines both upload and download into one 95GB cap(although they don't advertise the cap as such, I wonder why...), it just adds insult to injury.
 
LCfiner said:
spend the extra 15 bucks and get their ultra high speed 10 Mbps plan which gives you 100 GB up/down. The extra speed is a little bonus but the kicker is the bandwidth cap.

it’s still not great (or even good as I hit the ceiling every month) but at least you won’t go over the limit downloading game demos and hi def youtube videos.

edit: whoa 430 GB. never mind. that’s outta control. you’re boned no matter what plan you got :lol

Well I usually do not go that high. Its just that I had so much things to download, I decided to bust my cap and pay the maximum fine of 50$. Since this is a max, I downloaded everything imaginable that was on the wait list.

About Vidéotron$$$ offerings, that is a bit weird. I've checked their plans, if I go for the 100Gig cap, its 75$ instead of 38$. I could get an extra 30gig from my initial 30g for 15$.
But the only reason I'm keeping them is that I have signed in "god forgive my stupidity" blood for a full year. If I bail, they are going to send me that ridiculous bill. Also, if I stop the internet service, they are going to jack up my TV service and my phone service. Talk about some robbers.
Anyway, the day I stop them, I gotta drop all their services and change EVERYTHING. I'm already planning my options. Its just ridiculous what they get away with.

Telecom companies here are not very far off the Cartel business model. Bell gotta be the worst in that department. I can't believe they aren't closed down with their hire ups in jail for life.
 
koam said:
Acanac. http://www.acanac.com/

$19 tax included for the first year, $35 after that.
No download limit / Bandwidth caps.
SSH + support so that you don't get torrent throttles
100GB of online storage.

I don't understand why more people don't use them.
They are godsend.



I can confirm 100% that i do not get any throttles using the SSH solution that Acanac provides (which is basically run a tiny app to connect at startup). I get 400K/S on my torrents even during peak hours.

Edit: Update my post with their current into

hmm this one actually looks pretty good
 
koam said:
Acanac. http://www.acanac.com/

$19 tax included for the first year, $35 after that.
No download limit / Bandwidth caps.
SSH + support so that you don't get torrent throttles
100GB of online storage.

I don't understand why more people don't use them.
They are godsend.



I can confirm 100% that i do not get any throttles using the SSH solution that Acanac provides (which is basically run a tiny app to connect at startup). I get 400K/S on my torrents even during peak hours.

Edit: Update my post with their current into

This sounds very, very nice. My bandwidth would be cut in half compared to what I get now, though. Hmm, this is an option.
 
I've been with Teksavvy and have had no problems with them so far except for the fact that Bell throttles them and there's no easy way, that I can see, to get around it. I know Acanac offers a solution...but maybe I'm just hesitant to change.
 
Acanac seems decent but I just recently upgraded from Primus (barf) to Rogers 10mbit conncection, I cant downgrade now..

The 60 gb limit blows but I can maintain it because I am not a huge downloader. I did get the warning though about reaching 75% of my bandwidth this month but I've been downloading a lot of TV shows and I bought TF2 off steam which is 6 gigs alone, so its higher than normal. Does anyone know when it gets reset? I know you can check on their website but I really don't want to sign that terms of use/contract thing. I think its mid month, which is when the bill comes. My biggest peeve right now is the torrent throttling though.

Anyway, whatever you guys do, DO NOT GET PRIMUS. Primus is a 7mbit line, realistically 5, with no caps and no throttling, but man o man are they ever inconsistent. Speeds fluctuate from 5 megs all the way down to 600kbit...Its too bad cause they had a great price too.
 
I'm with MTS - no monthly download limits, decent speeds; so far no problems. I hear the service is on a par with Shaw in Manitoba, but for around the same price you can get slightly faster speeds with Shaw if you can live with the cap. I'll probably never approach Shaw's bandwidth cap, but I love knowing I never have to worry about it with MTS. I actually have no idea how much data I download/upload per month. Could be 40GB; could be 100GB including uploads. I hope I'm never compelled to find out.

Edit: No sign of torrent throttling with MTS either. Not sure how Shaw compares on that score.
 
Lion Heart said:
Acanac seems decent but I just recently upgraded from Primus (barf) to Rogers 10mbit conncection, I cant downgrade now..

The 60 gb limit blows but I can maintain it because I am not a huge downloader. I did get the warning though about reaching 75% of my bandwidth this month but I've been downloading a lot of TV shows and I bought TF2 off steam which is 6 gigs alone, so its higher than normal. Does anyone know when it gets reset? I know you can check on their website but I really don't want to sign that terms of use/contract thing. I think its mid month, which is when the bill comes. My biggest peeve right now is the torrent throttling though.

Anyway, whatever you guys do, DO NOT GET PRIMUS. Primus is a 7mbit line, realistically 5, with no caps and no throttling, but man o man are they ever inconsistent. Speeds fluctuate from 5 megs all the way down to 600kbit...Its too bad cause they had a great price too.

Yeah, that's my problem too. These lower priced ISPs are great, but I can't go back to 5 mbps after having had 10 mbps with Rogers for so long.
 
You guys know that soon Bell will force all DSL resellers to implement usage based billing soon right? That means probably the end of unlimited and most likely a reduction of all usage caps.

At this moment, the only DSL provider that I know of who owns their own lines is Primus... and that's only in Toronto.
 
Hey guys another question,

How much of a difference does 10Mbps make vs 5Mbps? Is it noticeable?

I'm running 10Mbps on Rogers right now, i just realized.

Will I notice a difference when I'm playing Modern Warfare 2 on Xbox Live?
 
ok, so right now I'm getting 10Mbps/512K from Rogers

What kind of difference would I notice if any between that and 5Mbps/800K from TekSavvy?
 
You might experience better pings... but then again, you'll have half your download speed everywhere else - assuming you get 10 Mbps all the time. It depends if that's worth it to you.
 
I doubt you will get better pings than Rogers. When I had Primus, I was getting 650k up but 50 ms ping compared to rogers 10-20 ms. Games are much laggier and butter smooth with Rogers. I would personally choose the 10mbit over the 5, but if you know someone with Tek, try to run a speed test and see their pings.
 
dream said:
I read that Shaw has 100mbit with a 400 gig cap now...

Must resist tag quote...

But where did you see that? I am on shaw, I have a 15Mbit line with 100GB/month plan. Granted there is a higher plan up but it's 25Mbit as I know as the highest.
 
I'm with Teksavvy. Cheaper than Bell, for basically the same service (but MUCH more bandwidth).

I was thinking of switching to Videotron since they got their new 50 mbits service... untill I saw they were still limiting upload speed to 1 mbps and only allowed 100 GB/mo. of bandwidth. Sheeesh.

Kuro Madoushi said:
I've been with Teksavvy and have had no problems with them so far except for the fact that Bell throttles them and there's no easy way, that I can see, to get around it. I know Acanac offers a solution...but maybe I'm just hesitant to change.

It's pretty easy, actually. There's a good FAQ here.
 
I have four people in my house using the Internet. We go over the cap every month. We have a 95gb cap with 10mb down 1mb up.

It's complete bullshit that there is a cap. The cap should be 250gb. It's costing the ISP's nothing extra regardless of the bandwidth used.

CRTC is a joke.
 
Lion Heart said:
Acanac seems decent but I just recently upgraded from Primus (barf) to Rogers 10mbit conncection, I cant downgrade now..

The 60 gb limit blows but I can maintain it because I am not a huge downloader. I did get the warning though about reaching 75% of my bandwidth this month but I've been downloading a lot of TV shows and I bought TF2 off steam which is 6 gigs alone, so its higher than normal. Does anyone know when it gets reset? I know you can check on their website but I really don't want to sign that terms of use/contract thing. I think its mid month, which is when the bill comes. My biggest peeve right now is the torrent throttling though.

Anyway, whatever you guys do, DO NOT GET PRIMUS. Primus is a 7mbit line, realistically 5, with no caps and no throttling, but man o man are they ever inconsistent. Speeds fluctuate from 5 megs all the way down to 600kbit...Its too bad cause they had a great price too.

How much are you paying for this? Because the 10mbit connection with Videotron has a 100 GB DL/UP limit...
 
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