Capcom Arcade 2nd Stadium - Announce Trailer
- Thread starter IbizaPocholo
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Knightime_X
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Oh yeah!
IbizaPocholo
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rabbity-thing
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Why not just release a giant patch to the first game so you can have one unified app with a ton of games? It doesn't seem like they did anything warranting a second distinct title.
derrickchase
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Need to keep up appearances and pretend these are real video game releases and not just repackaging MAME and some roms. It's really the only reason.
Anyone who buys crap like this is a rube, in my opinion. Paying money for this is enabling crappy corporate behavior.
Some people like to legally play their games because they don't have an arcade full of boards to dump the roms off of.
This is out now BTW. Couple of gems in it like Rockman and Slammasters.
derrickchase
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Some people are nuts. The truth is that these games are all abandonware now. You can debate the technicalities all you want, but the reality is that anyone can download them off archive.org in 30 seconds and it just doesn't matter anymore. They had their shot on the market. It's all the more egregious and disgusting because Capcom themselves lost all the documentation about CPS2 protection and wouldn't have even been able to do these releases today if it hadn't been for people doing the work for them and figuring out CPS2 protection. So Capcom didn't even earn the right to resell these games again.
Just because Disney bent politicians over a tree stump doesn't mean that copyrights are supposed to last 2 million years.
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sol_bad
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Capcom didn't earn the right to sell these games?
They spent millions of dollars making these games. The people who broke the CPS2 encryption spent a few thousand dollars, maybe. People in the emulation have more right to sell the games?
You make no sense.
Capcom and Konami are some of the only companies that are looking after their legacy and making sure they are preserved and available to own. I already own all the roms but I'll happily buy and own them legitimately. Abandonware is no longer abandonware when the rights holder actively start selling it.
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derrickchase
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I make perfect sense if you've got a working brain. These games had their shot. They're abandonware now because it's been 30 fucking years. It's over. They don't cost money anymore. It's over for them commercially. Tell me where I said that emulation authors have the right to sell them. Oh, wait. Nowhere. You just made crap up because of traumatic brain injury or whatever's going on there.
In man hours, the amount of time people spent on freeware emulators is absolutely insane. Far more man hours than were spent on actually making the games in the first place--by more talented people, to boot. The people that programmed the original games were largely hacks, and the people who worked on emulation consist of a lot of geniuses.
Capcom did not look after their legacy at all. They lost their documentation and source code. They got bailed out by people who actually care about the games.
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nush
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Let me know how I can play all these abandoned games on my PlayStation without having to modify my console and risk loosing my PSN account and I'm in!
derrickchase
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With any luck the EU will kick Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo's ass, too, and you'll be able to do just that.
nush
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But what if I don't live in the EU and want to play these games today on my PlayStation? I can do that right now.
derrickchase
Member
And just to illustrate what I'm talking about, if you actually want to charge money for something in August 2022, this is the level of effort you need to put in if you want any sales from non-pillow biters.
https://github.com/djyt/cannonball
That's actually an accurate version of the original game that takes advantage of modern hardware and not a lazy ass repackaging of MAME. That's the kind of thing you can charge money for. You know, actual new work.
I can play the arcade Outrun at 60fps on a 21:9 monitor at full screen on the PC because someone actually DID NEW WORK. I can't do that if I buy the shitty Sega collection that just repackaged someone else's emulator.
Your expectations are too low. Your standards are too low. People that enable dog shit like this Capcom collection are setting things back for everyone. Way to go.
https://github.com/djyt/cannonball
That's actually an accurate version of the original game that takes advantage of modern hardware and not a lazy ass repackaging of MAME. That's the kind of thing you can charge money for. You know, actual new work.
I can play the arcade Outrun at 60fps on a 21:9 monitor at full screen on the PC because someone actually DID NEW WORK. I can't do that if I buy the shitty Sega collection that just repackaged someone else's emulator.
Your expectations are too low. Your standards are too low. People that enable dog shit like this Capcom collection are setting things back for everyone. Way to go.
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sol_bad
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Doesn't cost them money? These 2 collections just appeared out of thin air with no person involved? They just appear on servers with no money involved?
I think you might have the brain trauma. Many industries have lost documentation for things from the 70's, 80's and 90's, it's not uncommon. Music, movies and art have been lost to history as they weren't preserved properly. It's not about not caring, no one could have ever guessed what the digital age would afford them in 20-40 years time.
And calling people who develop and make games untalented is quite a hot take.
derrickchase
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All I can say is that it sucks to be limited to console gaming. Hope the EU helps you out.
Sony will pull the PlayStation out of the EU before they allow the Xbox store to be installed on it.
derrickchase
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You DO NOT KNOW HOW TO READ WORDS. I never said it didn't cost money to market some butt log re-release. I said they don't cost money as in they don't cost money for consumers to buy anymore. You just download the ROMs and play them. Try actually reading the text people type some time.
Which is basically pirating the game.
derrickchase
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Sounds good. I hope they go out of business myself. Their movies, and their games that are basically movies, blow.
sol_bad
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Regarding your post about Outrun, if the developer comes up with a completely new idea from scratch and it has good gameplay, I'll send him money. I wouldn't pay him money for working on someone's else's project. If he wants to update Outrun in his spare time that's up to him, but I wouldn't pay him money to play it.
nush
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No it's not its "Free", You DO NOT KNOW HOW TO READ WORDS.
derrickchase
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Which no one mentally stable cares about when it comes to 30 year old games that have literally been quintuple dipped on already.
See, this is the kind of perverse stuff that grinds my gears. You diminish actual honest to goodness effort and support lazy cash grabs. Sad.
sol_bad
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Paying Capcom for these arcade games means there is always a potential for a sequel or revival of an IP. Paying someone that doesn't own the license means absolutely nothing to Capcom and we'd be no closer to a sequel or revival of an IP.
Asking to be paid for working on Outrun would be like the guy who made the 2 hour cut of the Obi-Wan show asking to be paid.
nush
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Captain Toad
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The last was free too. You just have to purchase the actual games inside it
Neff
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What a fucking idiot
nush
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Captain Toad
Banned
Oh. Hilarious.
Neff
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I preordered the Switch version and it was unlocked shortly after midnight in the UK.
Trazyn the Infinite
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Do these games have trophies/achievements? How is the emulation quality? Also any chance of a physical to add to my collection
