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[Manabanana]

Exhibit A: The mock turtle neck. Longer than crew cut, shorter than a turtle neck.

Exhibit B: The mock turtle. Creation of author Lewis Carroll in his children's classic "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland."

Now, which came first? It makes sense to me that the mock turtle was created as a play on the mock turtle neck. Seeing as Wonderland is Alice's fantasy, it would make sense that Alice, having heard the term "mock turtle neck" before, would imagine a "mock turtle" to look something like the one pictured. However: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland was first published in 1865. Did they have garments they called "mock turtle necks" at the time?

Discuss.

 

[iapetus]

Mock turtle soup, a soup made of calf's head, veal, or other meat, and condiments, in imitation of green turtle soup.

Discussion over.

 

[Manabanana]

Discussion over.

Not quite! Where did the mock turtle neck come from? Alice's Adventures in Wonderland or soup? But good work, gumshoe

 

[Mermandala]

All this talk of sweaternecks and soup leaves me cold.

Please explain the hotly debated origins of this amphibious weaponry.