Circana: In the US, PS5 accounted for 47% of total Black Friday week hardware unit sales, Switch 2 for 24%, and NEX Playground for 14%

Jim Ryan is the unsung hero of PlayStation, he absolutely obliterated Xbox's hardware business, and left arguably the strongest PlayStation platform to his successors.





Waiting for someone to deflect and mention Concord in 3..2..1..
 
Lack of games I think, combined with the key card FUD. Anecdotally people see it as Switch Pro and it needs some heavy hitters soon. If they don't get announced by the end of the fiscal year I think Switch 2 will be a dud when it's all said and done.

I think that's overstating it a bit, but I do think there is a palpable sense that the Switch 2 is not a must-have item right now.
 
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Lack of games I think, combined with the key card FUD. Anecdotally people see it as Switch Pro and it needs some heavy hitters soon. If they don't get announced by the end of the fiscal year I think Switch 2 will be a dud when it's all said and done.
Fair play to you, that's one hell of a bold prediction.
I think the fact they supplied so much inventory and never sold out, excitement seems to have dried up.
Feels different to the switch launch where everyone was talking about it, when every time stock dropped it's instantly sold out, driving up excitement.
I think switch 2 will continue to sell steady though.
 
This just in! Due to the massive popularity of Next Playground, Microsoft is acquiring it and integrating it in the Series consoles. It will also be a core part of their next console, Magnus.
 
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This just in! Due to the massive popularity of Next Playground, Microsoft is acquiring it and integrating it in the Series consoles. It will also be a core part of their next console, Magnus.

Well Nex says it's the spiritual successor of Kinect!

Xbox WINS!!!

It's just hilarious

A failed 2010 Xbox 360/One peripheral REBRANDED is having more success than the actual 2020 monster Xbox 12 teraflops console in 2025

They should make a documentary about this
 
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Is this a case of switch 2 being sold out and can't sell anymore or has it started to do worse than switch 1 after the initial launch

Huh? What is there in this thread that would indicate that the Switch 2 is performing worse than the Switch 1? I'm not sure if you mean "on Black Friday 2025" or "launch aligned," but both are wrong. The Switch 1 is hidden somewhere in unreported 15% for Black Friday, well below the Switch 2's 24%, and it's also substantially behind the Switch 2 launch aligned, according to all the data we currently have.
 
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Wtf is nex playground?
Its a small cube that functions like a MS kinect or PS Eyetoy
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Lack of games I think, combined with the key card FUD. Anecdotally people see it as Switch Pro and it needs some heavy hitters soon. If they don't get announced by the end of the fiscal year I think Switch 2 will be a dud when it's all said and done.

Agreed with your points, except I don't see how it will be a dud when it's selling this well and Nintendo hasn't even officially announced Mario or Zelda.
 
No wonder Nintendo got more serious with the Cyber Monday discounts; nobody expected that 2:1 advantage for PS5 in the USA on Black Friday. Next year with GTAVI it will be even better than this.
 
Nintendos unwillingness to do anything this Black Friday will bite them in the butt. I know tariffs jacked up prices but they should've of at least put a big deal on Switch 1 to push catalogue sales.

A November direct would've worked wonders. Their fall slate is awesome for hardcore fans, but it's a not a hyped line up. They should've done more.
 
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This doesn't even include Sunday or cyber monday sales or the entire month with the discounts that PS5 has.
I'm aware. The script was upended here:
 
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Man, Sony is just steamrolling the competition worldwide this holiday it seems.

Nintendos unwillingness to do anything this Black Friday will bite them in the butt. I know tariffs jacked up prices but they should've of at least put a big deal on Switch 1 to push catalogue sales.

A November direct would've worked wonders. Their fall slate is awesome for hardcore fans, but it's a not a hyped line up. They should've done more.
Should've done more would imply they're not already doing enough. They're well on their way to sell upwards to 19M Switch 2 units within 12 months, beating their initial estimate by more than 25%. They're already handsomely outperforming all metrics as is.
 
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Jim Ryan is the unsung hero of PlayStation, he absolutely obliterated Xbox's hardware business, and left arguably the strongest PlayStation platform to his successors.





Waiting for someone to deflect and mention Concord in 3..2..1..


Jim built an empire in Europe, but the missing piece was the US market.

In 2022, Jim made the decision to halve his profit margin and changed gaming forever.


US, 2023
PS5 6.7 m
XBS 3.8 m


Jim showed us that halving a profit margin can generate mountains of cash.


Xbox truly dead in water.

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I think that's overstating it a bit, but I do think there is a palpable sense that the Switch 2 is not a must-have item right now.

I feel it first hand. Nintendo does not get an auto-buy from me since n64. I did get a wii day one in a long line in the middle of the night, but it was a conscious and weighed decision. On the other hand, a playstation is an auto buy.

Switch, I was super excited for and it delivered at first. Over the years though, I've barely played it. Switch 2 looks very much more of the same and my instinct to buy it is faint. The only reason would be to restore working handheld mode (the connection in the rails wore out and it's unplayable if you try to connect them) and get that zelda upgrade, as I could play a lot more of those two games.

It's just not that enticing when I already have a switch.
 
I feel it first hand. Nintendo does not get an auto-buy from me since n64. I did get a wii day one in a long line in the middle of the night, but it was a conscious and weighed decision. On the other hand, a playstation is an auto buy.

Switch, I was super excited for and it delivered at first. Over the years though, I've barely played it. Switch 2 looks very much more of the same and my instinct to buy it is faint. The only reason would be to restore working handheld mode (the connection in the rails wore out and it's unplayable if you try to connect them) and get that zelda upgrade, as I could play a lot more of those two games.

It's just not that enticing when I already have a switch.

The PS6 handheld is a big mental block to my purchase. Without true Nintendo killer apps, and a *much* stronger handheld coming from Sony for third-party titles....why would I bother?

Hopefully they have another Zelda masterpiece in the pipeline.
 
I think that's overstating it a bit, but I do think there is a palpable sense that the Switch 2 is not a must-have item right now.

This is anecdotal, of course, but I will say that one of my three local Wal-Marts had plenty of Switch 2's in stock earlier today. I want to say there were around 6 or 7 just in the small glass case. I have no idea about the other two Wal-Marts. My best friend bought a Switch 2 very soon after it launched and we talk about how he doesn't play it because there just aren't any new games for it that interest him. He's one of those guys who gets serious FOMO over anything that remotely tickles his fancy. So he'll run out and buy something with no thought given to if he'll actually use it. He's not the kind to get buyer's remorse but he does acknowledge it was pointless for him to buy it when he did. He has hardly touched it.

I suspect that this isn't an uncommon sentiment right now. I mean, it seems most of the biggest games getting the lion's share of attention aren't on Switch 2. Not even Call of Duty, which was supposed to get Switch versions if I remember correctly. Did I miss something about that? I'm sure there are other factors at play, but not being a destination for big games at this point certainly isn't helping.
 
Never been a question in my mind that the PS5 would blow past the PS4 lifetime sales, and it really doesn't have much further to go. As of the end of Q2 of this FY, the PS5 has moved 84.2 million units. In the equivalent time frame, the PS4 was at 86.3 million units, so off by 2.1 million units.

Here's how the PS4 performed in the subsequent quarters:

2018/2019
Q3 - 8.1 million
Q4 - 2.6 million
TOTAL - 10.7 million

2019/2020
Q1 - 3.2 million
Q2 - 2.8 million
Q3 - 6 million
Q4 - 1.4 million
TOTAL - 13.4 million

2020/2021
Q1 - 1.9 million
Q2 - 1.5 million
Q3 - 1.4 million
Q4 - 1 million
TOTAL - 5.8 million

2021/2022
Q1 - 500k
Q2 - 200k
Q3 - 200k
Q4 - 100k
TOTAL - 1 million

That tops off at 117.2 million for the PS4. The number's gone up a small amount since then as there are still PS4s being sold, but it won't be off by much. So from the last quarterly report the PS5 is about 33 million away from surpassing the PS4 lifetime sales.

For Q1/Q2 of this FY the PS5 was already tracking ahead of last FY's figures. The current quarter is gonna be huge for the PS5 and I think they'll easily blow past their projection of 15 million units this FY. Look at how quickly the PS4 petered off once the 2019/2020 FY started, in those 3 FY they moved 20.2 million units total. I think the PS5 can move that next FY alone on the back of GTA6, probably even more. If the PS6 shows up holiday 2027 then I wouldn't be surprised to see the PS5 sitting at around 130+ million units by the time it arrived. If the PS6 is holiday 2028 then 140+ million would be my guess at that point in time. Then who knows how long Sony will keep the PS5 around while they're pushing the PS6 family of devices, so the number could continue to go up for some time.
 
As expected, PS5 won black friday and Switch 2 i am pretty sure that won Cyber monday… November numbers are going to be interesting.
What are you thinking. Switch 2 lead the first 3 weeks in November and PlayStation lead the final week?
 
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remember, ps5 achieved these number of sales without exclusive games ... lol
....that captured the gaming culture, genre/generation-defining games. (They already did with Helldivers 2 tho). But i think people are expecting the big AAAA Single Player Story Driven one to do it.

At this point Cory´s game could the choosen one.
 
remember, ps5 achieved these number of sales without exclusive games lol
Old ps5 exclusives like for example Astrobot, Spiderman, GOW, are GT7 are still attractive in the market. Time exclusive like for example Death stranding 2 and Stellar blade also are an excelllent purchase this days.
 
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This represents an all time high for the playstation brand in America the most important market. Never had they had such a large gap over Xbox.
 
I bought my son a Switch 2 (for Christmas). He wanted one to play Minecraft and Garage Game Builder. I normally would have waited until there were new games he wanted but he is Switch broke earlier this year, and I like him to have Christmas gifts to get excited about. When I was a kid I would have lost my mind to get a game console for Christmas.
 
Agreed with your points, except I don't see how it will be a dud when it's selling this well and Nintendo hasn't even officially announced Mario or Zelda.
It just got outsold by PS5 and as pointed out, it's not supply constrained. My point is it needs those tentpole games (Mario, Zelda, something new) soon. Switch 2 sold based on the expectation of those games, but those games need to come soon or the console will get a "has no games" reputation. They can't afford to have a Nintendo drought™ this early.
 
No surprise that a $100 discount would move a lot of units. Anyone who had been on the fence would have jumped at a deal like that.
 
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remember, ps5 achieved these number of sales without exclusive games lol
Yotei, Gran Turismo 7, Astrobot, death stranding 2.

Let's also not forget all the others that were once only available on ps5: Spider-Man 2 being one of those, all other 1st party games from PS studios, FFXVI, Rebirth, all the console exclusive titles like Silent Hill 2 etc…

All that helped Sony climb that ladder until reaching over 90M consoles sold.
 
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