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[Varteras]

4.8 million units of something per year...

"Fushan aims to scale up to 4.8 million additional Xbox gaming devices as part of the permit, which likely includes Xbox Series X|S consoles, official Xbox controllers, accessories like the official Xbox headset, and possibly even Xbox Cloud Gaming server tech

Oh wow. This was the sole reason I doubted a potential hold on their next console. Your reading comprehension just sent that out the window. Now I don't know at all

 

[kaizenkko]

Xbox selling 200k in the actual scenario is actually good. Good enough to be true. Less than 100k seems more accurate.

 

[Moridianae]

Yikes on Xbox, but look--for a lot of folks right now, the economy is absolute dogshit.

Microsoft raised the price of Game Pass, their own systems(TWICE, with rumors of a third not long ago) and a myriad of their games are coming to PS5.

People are going to go for what the best deal is and $399 for a PS5(or less if you went preowned) compared to..what's a Series X now? $649? Almost PS5 Pro level price...damn.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Yikes on Xbox, but look--for a lot of folks right now, the economy is absolute dogshit.

Microsoft raised the price of Game Pass, their own systems(TWICE, with rumors of a third not long ago) and a myriad of their games are coming to PS5.

People are going to go for what the best deal is and $399 for a PS5(or less if you went preowned) compared to..what's a Series X now? $649? Almost PS5 Pro level price...damn.

The PS5 Pro was discounted to $649 during Black Friday

 

[RetroGamingUK]

 

[Robb]

The PS5 Pro was discounted to $649 during Black Friday

 

[Astray]

Jez is like "you know what...fuck it" lmao

Nice M ManaByte cameo there.

 

[Baemono]

... Once again...

He'll yet publish another future bright article this year I believe.

Unless he realizes the light at the end of the tunnel has another meaning

 

[Baemono]

Yeah but at the end we all know Sasuke killed Itachi

Or he let him kill him, I don't recall, it's been 20 years or something

 

[Varteras]

He'll yet publish another future bright article this year I believe.

Unless he realizes the light at the end of the tunnel has another meaning

The moment he realizes one, the other is gonna happen. Check his grandma's basement for funny smells.

 

[demigod]

Who the hell knows with that guy? This is the same guy who gets triggered if someone disagrees with him on numbers, even if that someone is a known insider.

How's that titan level investigation from Jez Corden going, by the way?

He's still hiding on twitter calling out K KeplerL2 being wrong. I'm still laughing at his 37m numbers.

 

[Ellis]

He's still hiding on twitter calling out K KeplerL2 being wrong. I'm still laughing at his 37m numbers.

Where does this 35-7m number even come from. Just some bullshit one person said so they all followed and went with it ?

15-20m I'd believe.

 

[demigod]

Stopped by Walmart to pick up a game and look what I saw. There's your Nex console right next to old ass xbox games.

 

[onQ123]

Stopped by Walmart to pick up a game and look what I saw. There's your Nex console right next to old ass xbox games.

That's now the NEX Section

 

[MrTired]

Where does this 35-7m number even come from. Just some bullshit one person said so they all followed and went with it ?

15-20m I'd believe.

No I believe Xbox is definitely over 30 million. How much over 30 million is there for debate.

 

[Mownoc]

Where does this 35-7m number even come from. Just some bullshit one person said so they all followed and went with it ?

15-20m I'd believe.

Nah it's done better than that. As of October 2022 it was still the fastest selling Xbox. It was holiday 2022 onwards things started tanking. But it would have hit 20m by early 2023 at least.

37m is pure copium though. It'll be in the low 30's and with how it's selling currently will never hit 37m lifetime.

 

[bitbydeath]

Nah it's done better than that. As of October 2022 it was still the fastest selling Xbox. It was holiday 2022 onwards things started tanking. But it would have hit 20m by early 2023 at least.

37m is pure copium though. It'll be in the low 30's and with how it's selling currently will never hit 37m lifetime.

2024 sold 2M worldwide.
This year will probably be at least half of that.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

 

[Radical_3d]

Funny thing is that Xbox still sells more than steam deck. They are only a failure compared to what they could actually sell if their management team weren't complete retards all three of them.

 

[KungFucius]

So those surprise Cyber Monday switch2 bundle prices were driven by weaker sales in the prior week. Regardless the system does still appear to be selling well consistently. The price drop of shame I was hoping for is not going to happen.

 

[MisterXDTV]

Where does this 35-7m number even come from. Just some bullshit one person said so they all followed and went with it ?

15-20m I'd believe.

The numbers are skewed because of the COVID chip crisis and Series S being the only console on the market for like a year and a half

Once PS5 became actually available to buy in 2023, they were killed.

 

[m14]

15-20m I'd believe.

Watch out Welfare, the PlayStation concert attendee has been crunching the numbers!

 

[Ellis]

Watch out Welfare, the PlayStation concert attendee has been crunching the numbers!

Maybe you should get out more and do the same. It's healthy.

 

[Baemono]

So are you guys conceding that Welfare's numbers are credible after all? Or is he only credible when his numbers are negative for Xbox?

Let's put it this way: if Welfare rounds up every 5.5 and 6s to 10s, when he says "under 200k" it means it's disastrous in any case

 

[Witchilich]

All those green rats in the replies.

Spoiler

 

[Witchilich]

All green rats avoided this thread and finally sent their representative M m14 for damage control.

 

[Witchilich]

Imagine being paid to say this.

 

[onQ123]

Funny thing is that Xbox still sells more than steam deck. They are only a failure compared to what they could actually sell if their management team weren't complete retards all three of them.

Couldn't handle NEX so now it wants to pick on Steam Deck

 

[alabtrosMyster]

Lmao xbox in 4th place

KINO

In a three horse race!

That's like being the cuck sitting on a chair while your wife is having a threesome with a guy and another girl. There are plenty of holes, but you can't score!

 

[m14]

Maybe you should get out more and do the same. It's healthy.

Are you saying my regular visits to CeX don't count?

Let's put it this way: if Welfare rounds up every 5.5 and 6s to 10s, when he says "under 200k" it means it's disastrous in any case

Who was seriously expecting anything different? Black Friday played out exactly as expected for Xbox and yet people are clutching their pearls at the bad numbers.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Hardly a surprise, sternly devaluing a product and they talk about a future console or hybrid whatever and I'm supposed to be excited for it and with the same people overseeing it? No chance.

 

[Unknown?]

Hardly a surprise, sternly devaluing a product and they talk about a future console or hybrid whatever and I'm supposed to be excited for it and with the same people overseeing it? No chance.

Please be excited!

 

[Viruz]

In a three horse race!

That's like being the cuck sitting on a chair while your wife is having a threesome with a guy and another girl. There are plenty of holes, but you can't score!

 

[Baemono]

Who was seriously expecting anything different? Black Friday played out exactly as expected for Xbox and yet people are clutching their pearls at the bad numbers.

Black Friday is the peak sales period. They sold more earlier this year than during the one time in the year where people are waiting to buy new consoles. It is unseen an frankly a disaster.

Even the worse Xbox One sales period still had a good black Friday period

 

[m14]

Black Friday is the peak sales period. They sold more earlier this year than during the one time in the year where people are waiting to buy new consoles. It is unseen an frankly a disaster.

Even the worse Xbox One sales period still had a good black Friday period

But Xbox weren't offering any sales and their consoles have never been more expensive, so what were people realistically expecting?
If they'd offered steep discounts and still sold poorly then I could agree but Xbox didn't participate in Black Friday at all. It's just another excuse for people to clutch pearls over Xbox.

The difference with the Xbox One period is that they were still actively trying to sell consoles and selling them at competitive prices.
I'm not saying I agree with their approach, but it is what it is.

 

[DeepEnigma]

so what were people realistically expecting?

For MSFT to be "consumer friendly," as they propagated for a decade.

 

[Topher]

But Xbox weren't offering any sales and their consoles have never been more expensive, so what were people realistically expecting?
If they'd offered steep discounts and still sold poorly then I could agree but Xbox didn't participate in Black Friday at all. It's just another excuse for people to clutch pearls over Xbox.

It is a new low for an Xbox brand that has been a dumpster fire for years now, but going on and on trying to make this about people posting in the thread rather than the topic itself is just a coping mechanism and fake moral outrage all on its own.

 

[Ebrietas]

I love the new cope that ps5 is only selling because of the discounts that MS simply chose not to offer. As if Xbox wasn't being sold at fire sale prices during previous holidays and still nobody wanted it.

Fact is, when ps5 and switch 2 are similarly priced, people overwhelmingly would rather buy a ps5. While Xbox is not even on the radar. Folks who have been aggressively pushing certain narratives recently will need to come to terms with that reality.

 

[Unknown?]

I love the new cope that ps5 is only selling because of the discounts that MS simply chose not to offer. As if Xbox wasn't being sold at fire sale prices during previous holidays and still nobody wanted it.

Fact is, when ps5 and switch 2 are similarly priced, people outside of Japan overwhelmingly choose the ps5. While Xbox is not even on the radar. Some folks just need to come to terms with that reality.

They had the Series S at $199 either a year or two ago and it didn't so squat.

 

[Alebrije]

Sony did an agressive price strategy this BF, here in Mexico still today You can get for 430 US the 1TB digital versión with Astrobot and Grand Turismo meanwhile the Base Switch 2 cost $540.00 U.S.

México used to be an Xbox territory thanks to 360 because was cheaper than PS3 and also easier to pirate it's games. But since PS4 the market has been moving to Sony territory. Nintendo also has a strog presence and fans, there is even a "joke" where grandparents call "Nintendo" every console when they see the kids playing videogames.

Xbox its almost dead here..

 

[Witchilich]

You know things are bad when even a titan of the industry has given up. Right M m14 ?

He is not given up.

Spoiler

 

[m14]

It is a new low for an Xbox brand that has been a dumpster fire for years now, but going on and on trying to make this about people posting in the thread rather than the topic itself is just a coping mechanism and fake moral outrage all on its own.

The topic itself is the rather vital context that Xbox did not participate in Black Friday. This is just the inconvenient truth getting in the way of your enjoyment of recycled memes from X. But no harm in "going on and on" when it's something the hive mind approves of, eh?

 

[DeepEnigma]

when it's something the hive mind approves of, eh?

Obligatory,

 

[tr1p1ex]

Rumor is MSFT is buying NEX.

 

[m14]

Obligatory,

A vibrant, passionate community! Love to see it!

 

[Baemono]

The topic itself is the rather vital context that Xbox did not participate in Black Friday. This is just the inconvenient truth getting in the way of your enjoyment of recycled memes from X. But no harm in "going on and on" when it's something the hive mind approves of, eh?

Neither did Nintendo, nor that Nex thing. Only Sony did heavy discounts.

But only Microsoft had abyssmal sales

 

[DeepEnigma]

A vibrant, passionate community! Love to see it!

This was the afters,

 

[Mownoc]

The topic itself is the rather vital context that Xbox did not participate in Black Friday. This is just the inconvenient truth getting in the way of your enjoyment of recycled memes from X. But no harm in "going on and on" when it's something the hive mind approves of, eh?

And why do you think they didn't participate? Because they have given up on the failure that is Xbox Series.

 

[Topher]

The topic itself is the rather vital context that Xbox did not participate in Black Friday. This is just the inconvenient truth getting in the way of your enjoyment of recycled memes from X. But no harm in "going on and on" when it's something the hive mind approves of, eh?

A console manufacturer having an incredibly stupid reason for having shitty sales on Black Friday means it shouldn't be a topic, huh? The one person pushing this topic "on and on" is you. Keep clutching those pearls. You are exactly what you are whining about.

 

[mckmas8808]

Currently on Amazon US

PS Portal #22
Xbox Series X Digital #64



Currently on Amazon UK chart

PS Portal #8
Xbox Series consoles not in top 100

PS Portal....LETS GO!!!!!!!!!

i think the catastrophic numbers, and the fact that these idiots were designing a high-end pc-box in this economic climate, will put that DOA "experiment" in jeopardy now,
wont be surprised if early next year we hear that its shelved, just like their handheld

I really think you are on to something here. No way Nadella allows MS to release Xbox Magnus at even a $1 loss per unit. That thing will most defintially be over $1,000. And at what point will it make sense to release a $1,000 console\PC when you can't even sell 200K Xbox Series consoles during November at an average price of $425 Series S and $625 Series X?!

Was very surprised the see great deals on the console especially with the PS5. Game stop was taking in ps5 digital for $300 so I took mine in and traded for the pro for $350 and I'm pretty happy about it. The extra TB is a godsend and console getting more expensive so I know the adoption rate for ps6 will be even longer next gen

Considering what FSR4\PSSR 2.0 will do for the PS5 Pro in 2026......your $350 will be an AMAZING value! Also I had no idea these PS5 deals were going until Christmas day!