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Cohen says that The Don authorized Russian meeting at Trump Tower

All Hail C-Webb

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Michael Cohen prepared to tell Mueller

Cohen alleges that he was present, along with several others, when Trump was informed of the Russians' offer by Trump Jr. By Cohen's account, Trump approved going ahead with the meeting with the Russians, according to sources.
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So, Don Jr lied to the Senate judiciary committee, and the Don lied to the American people again.

This is the worst news yet for our President, and it's becoming evident that he can't be trusted about anything.
 
12Goblins

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At which point does the right look at this and realize, well damn, maybe the dems weren't lying..

Or do they ever? Suddenly Russian involvement is not that important maybe? Surely Hillary had help from the deep state (delusional), so why can't he? Maybe I am the very thing I called Obama the devil for doing, and this whole time I was projecting? But how do I explain my presidents behavior in helsinki? Someone help me out here
 
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All Hail C-Webb

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MrTickles said:
'the meeting with the Russians'

How sinister.:sneaky:
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"The June 2016 meeting was arranged after a publicist who knew Trump Jr. told him in emails -- in no uncertain terms -- that a senior Russian official "offered to provide the Trump campaign" with damaging information about Clinton, and that the outreach was "part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump." "

It's quite sinister. A presidential candidate in the United States authorized a secret meeting with a foreign enemy who was offering him dirt on his opponent to help him get elected. The President and his son (under oath) have now lied about it numerous times.

If this ever gets verified, Trump is done.
 
12Goblins

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Didn't his son release all those details about the meeting, saying kushner and manafort was there. When that came out I could not help but face-palm...
 
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JORMBO

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The article says Cohen does not have evidence, just his word. Trump will just say he is lying.
 
Arkage

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MrTickles said:
Lying about what? Obama and his underlings 'met with Russians'. Obama even colluded with Russians in secret about national security matters. Clinton 'met with Russians' outside of state functions. Even got some fat foundation and campaign contributions. Bush and his underlings 'met with Russians'.

Trump lies? Ok. He also drinks coke.
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"Nobody in the campaign ever met with Russians"
Multiple meetings by multiple campaign staff discovered and exposed.

"The Trump tower meeting was about adoptions, that's all"
Exposed to be about getting dirt on Hillary

"Trump had nothing to do with that stuff, Don Jr is the one who wrote that 'misstatement' on adoptions"
Secretary Sanders says Trump had a hand in writing it, with other sources saying he dictated parts directly

"Even if he helped write the statement it doesn't prove Trump knew about the Russian meeting for dirt on Hillary. He didn't!"
Cohen says otherwise, and it should be obvious by now Trump's a serial liar.

The next goal post they're going to move to? "Collusion isn't illegal."

Trump supporters say "there's no there there! Witch hunt!" Then why all these ridiculous lies?
 
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All Hail C-Webb

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JORMBO said:
The article says Cohen does not have evidence, just his word. Trump will just say he is lying.
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My guess is that it's disinformation. If Cohen was recording porn star conversations, he's definitely recording stuff like this.

Either way, Cohen says that there were others in the room. They're going to be scared to deny it now.
 
Corrik

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If he is guilty, impeach him. Then we can get a better Republican candidate for the next election. Win-win.
 
RokkanStoned

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Why do people invest so much into the whole Trump thing? Time will tell, meaning that the more you invest, the more like a total ass you'll look like in the end, if the opposite of your investment occurs. At that point you'll either have to double down reaching into conspiracy theory or you'll have to basically own up to your earlier position and admit yourself an ass. This partisan lunacy is just getting crazy, where confirmation bias seems to rule on both sides and some retarded concept of "ideological war" seems to be waged.
There's wise words surprisingly from the Bible that lets us deal with this and that's Proverbs 29:11.
 
chaos789

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MrTickles said:
Lying about what? Obama and his underlings 'met with Russians'. Obama even colluded with Russians in secret about national security matters. Clinton 'met with Russians' outside of state functions. Even got some fat foundation and campaign contributions. Bush and his underlings 'met with Russians'.

Trump lies? Ok. He also drinks coke.
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Not sure what country you are from. But in the United States it is not legal for a presidential candidate to have people in his campaign meet with a foreign entity to get dirt on a rival presidential candidate. If you are even contacted by a foreign nation-state is such a manner, you are suppose to report it to the F.B.I. Not cover it up. People only lie when they have something to hide.

If this is true, Trump is done.
 
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Sub_Level

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Mike Pence psyching himself up in the mirror every morning at this point.

"Just a little longer baby come on."
 
Chairman Tickles

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chaos789 said:
Not sure what country you are from. But in the United States it is not legal for a presidential candidate to have people in his campaign meet with a foreign entity to get dirt on a rival presidential candidate. If you are even contacted by a foreign nation-state is such a manner, you are suppose to report it to the F.B.I. Not cover it up. People only lie when they have something to hide.

If this is true, Trump is done.
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Didn't DNC pay a British spy for the so called Trump Dossier?
 
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Harksteed said:
I can just see the gears turning in this thread. 'How can we pivot to something or make this not seem important?'
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Probably because:

1. This contradicts Cohen's previous testimony, under oath, to congress, making him unreliable.
2. This would literally be the holy grail of the investigation, so why would Mueller leak it if he had any faith in it?
 
Nobody_Important

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JORMBO said:
The article says Cohen does not have evidence, just his word. Trump will just say he is lying.
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Hmmmm who to believe....


The chronic liar who is proven to lie and twist the truth on an almost daily basis

or

The lawyer who has handled all personal legal matters for the chronic liar for years




Man this is a tough one.

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JORMBO

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Nobody_Important said:
Hmmmm who to believe....


The chronic liar who is proven to lie and twist the truth on an almost daily basis

or

The lawyer who has handled all personal legal matters for the chronic liar for years




Man this is a tough one.

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Cohen also seems like a shady figure.

But my post was mainly thinking about it from a legal perspective. Without evidence I don't think this will amount to anything.
 
Nobody_Important

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“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
JORMBO said:
Cohen also seems like a shady figure.

But my post was mainly thinking about it from a legal perspective. Without evidence I don't think this will amount to anything.
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It will if the FBI have evidence that backs it up. Alot of times its not just testimony or just evidence that matters most in a legal case. Its the combination of the two.
 
12Goblins

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bucyou said:
its getting extremely lazy using that "worst news yet" line
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I mean, if this is true, on top of them lying about it, it's the first link we have of direct participation between trump and the Russians. So if anything it's your response that is lazy :/
 
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Nobody_Important

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“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
bucyou said:
its getting extremely lazy using that "worst news yet" line
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If this news is accurate and the FBI has evidence to support Cohen's claim then this is the most damaging evidence that we know of. Its direct proof that not only was trump aware of the meeting, but approved of accepting political support from a foreign nation to help him in the election.


And before anyone brings up the "OH BUT IT WAS JUST ABOUT ADOPTION" talking point. Thats not the point. The point is that the entire meeting was set up under the pretense of accepting aid from a hostile government. It doesn't matter that it didn't end up being that. It matters that Trump and his goonsquad were okay with it in the first place.
 
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Forthefuture

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Nobody_Important said:
If this news is accurate and the FBI has evidence to support Cohen's claim then this is the most damaging evidence that we know of. Its direct proof that not only was trump aware of the meeting, but approved of accepting political support from a foreign nation to help him in the election.


And before anyone brings up the "OH BUT HURR DURR IT WAS JUST ABOUT ADOPTION". Thats not the point. The point is that the entire meeting was set up under the pretense of accepting aid from a hostile government. It doesn't matter that it didn't end up being that. It matters that Trump and his goonsquad were okay with it in the first place.
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I think most people here are familiar with the implications. Some are just being willfully obtuse just to annoy, that is all.
 
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Nobody_Important said:
If this news is accurate and the FBI has evidence to support Cohen's claim then this is the most damaging evidence that we know of. Its direct proof that not only was trump aware of the meeting, but approved of accepting political support from a foreign nation to help him in the election.


And before anyone brings up the "OH BUT HURR DURR IT WAS JUST ABOUT ADOPTION". Thats not the point. The point is that the entire meeting was set up under the pretense of accepting aid from a hostile government. It doesn't matter that it didn't end up being that. It matters that Trump and his goonsquad were okay with it in the first place.
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The fact this got out shows that it is baseless. Manafort made similarly "powerful" claims when he got indicted on entirely unrelated charges, and they all fell through.

It also contradicts his previous testimony under oath, so I'm not sure why you put more stock in this now when he is being coerced with leniency on his taxi scheme. We know people like when you put the screws to them - it's why torture does not work.
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Hopefully Trump gets some balls and goes after Fusion GPS for working with a hostile government after this is all said and done. Maybe reassign Mueller to investigate them and McMuffin and McCain.
 
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Nobody_Important

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“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
infinitys_7th said:
The fact this got out shows that it is baseless. Manafort made similarly "powerful" claims when he got indicted on entirely unrelated charges, and they all fell through.

Hopefully Trump gets some balls and goes after Fusion GPS for working with a hostile government after this is all said and done. Maybe reassign Mueller to investigate them and McMuffin and McCain.
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Trump will not be touching Mueller or his investigation. He has members of his own party telling him not to do that.
 
NickFire

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I'm sorry but Cohen has no credibility any longer. He is facing state charges and is desperate for a way out. He secretly records his own clients, leaks that to the press in edited format, yet has no secret recording of this one. It may not seem like a big deal if you want a gotcha moment for Trump, but an attorney secretly recording his client is not something many attorneys or clients will ever support. And my gosh, he even lied to CNN's guy and said he was not recording him when he was per yesterdays news.
 
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MrTickles said:
Lying about what? Obama and his underlings 'met with Russians'. Obama even colluded with Russians in secret about national security matters. Clinton 'met with Russians' outside of state functions. Even got some fat foundation and campaign contributions. Bush and his underlings 'met with Russians'.

Trump lies? Ok. He also drinks coke.
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I don’t think you know what the word lie means.

My favourite current argument is “well we should have good relationship with Russia”. Yeah, country that invaded its neighbour, meddles with elections, shoots down a commercial airplane and poisons people who disagree with the president is someone you should be buddies with.
 
James T. Kirk

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DasPenguin said:
I don’t think you know what the word lie means.

My favourite current argument is “well we should have good relationship with Russia”. Yeah, country that invaded its neighbour, meddles with elections, shoots down a commercial airplane and poisons people who disagree with the president is someone you should be buddies with.
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But I bet he knows what the word coke means.
 
Spheyr

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DasPenguin said:
Yeah, country that invaded its neighbour, meddles with elections, shoots down a commercial airplane and poisons people who disagree with the president is someone you should be buddies with.
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Wew lad, wait until you get to middle school and start learning some history of the world.
 
Texas Pride

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DasPenguin said:
I don’t think you know what the word lie means.

My favourite current argument is “well we should have good relationship with Russia”. Yeah, country that invaded its neighbour, meddles with elections, shoots down a commercial airplane and poisons people who disagree with the president is someone you should be buddies with.
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When that country has half of the world's nuclear weapons yes you find away to get along. You don't go making a bad situation worse. What happened in Ukraine is fucked up. No denying that. But it's not the flash point to nuclear war and it never should be.
 
PkunkFury

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Texas Pride said:
When that country has half of the world's nuclear weapons yes you find away to get along. You don't go making a bad situation worse. What happened in Ukraine is fucked up. No denying that. But it's not the flash point to nuclear war and it never should be.
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what is this Stockholm syndrome crap? You are basically saying we should let Russia walk all over us (and others) because they have nuclear weapons. Nobody is suggesting we should go staight to nuclear war. We have a gulf of retaliatory options between getting along and nuclear war

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
This Ben Franklin quote is one of the most fundamental American quotes. I would expect someone with the name "Texas Pride" to revel in it. But no, apparently your definition of pride involves subordination to those who bully you with the empty threat of nuclear war. America didn't kowtow to Russia during the Cold War when the threat was infinitely higher. I see no reason we should do so now, when Russia's clearly overstepped their bounds
 
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Sub_Level

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Death Dealer said:
You're dreaming if you think 2/3 of the senate would vote to remove Trump from office over the pathetic Mueller investigation.
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Bottom line is either Trump's former lawyer is a liar or his son is a liar. Perjury deserves jail time.

Trump doesn't have to be impeached either; he can be persuaded to resign. The congressional leadership blocking the House's shortlived attempt at firing Rosenstein shows they are still willing to go against Trump at times.
 
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