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Columbine Graduate Killed In Iraq

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kumanoki

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http://edition.cnn.com/2004/US/12/14/marine.columbine.ap/index.html

Columbine graduate killed in Iraq
Tuesday, December 14, 2004 Posted: 1826 GMT (0226 HKT)

Lance Cpl. Greg Rund was killed in Iraq Saturday, his family says.

LITTLETON, Colorado (AP) -- A Marine who was a freshman at Columbine High School when two students killed 13 people there was killed in action in Iraq, his family said.

Lance Cpl. Greg Rund, 21, was on his second tour of duty in Iraq when he was killed Saturday, his family said in a statement released Monday. He had talked about joining the Marines throughout high school and enlisted shortly after graduating in 2002.

Rund was a freshman when Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris shot 12 students, a teacher, and then themselves on April 20, 1999.

"Greg made us so proud, but he never wanted to be recognized for his actions," said the statement from his family. "Neither Columbine nor Iraq was to define him."

Rund was on the 2000 state championship football team, and his younger brother, Doug, now plays football at Columbine as a sophomore.

"It seems so unfortunate that you get through some things, but it catches up with you," Ken Holden, Rund's former high school counselor, told the Denver Post.

Rund's family described him as "reckless, smart, off-key and wonderful."

"He never did anything like everyone else did," the statement said. "He did everything to the extreme and always knew that somehow with his humor and a little luck, he would make it through."

I don't normally post things like this. I felt like this deserved attention because what happened to this guy just ------- sucks. The last paragraph makes it 1,000 times worse, too.
 
Ecrofirt said:
TCM +1 !!!!!lololxorz

What's so different about this than anyone else who dies in Iraq?

This person isn't faceless... kind of. It would pull at the heart strings of a person who doesn't have the wit to ask the question you both asked. It would stir emotion in them that they might otherwise not feel since this person has something under their belt that makes him stand out more than all the other people who've died in Iraq. It just might hit a spot on certain people.
 

kumanoki

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Matlock said:
How is this different from the other casualties?

I didn't post this to make light of any other soldiers killed in Iraq or Afghanistan, Matlock. I don't feel that his situation was particularly 'casual', as the army so succinctly puts it. I just think it sucks.
 

Matlock

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You know, if I die in Iraq because of a draft--I'm going to pray that they make a fluff article about me that mentions that I played Fight Club.
 
Makes for an interesting comparison. The guys who killed a dozen-ish at his school got death by their own hands and hatred from millions. On the other hand, the guys who played a role in a dozen-hundred-ish US deaths so far got medals.
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ShadowRed

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Lemurnator said:
This person isn't faceless... kind of. It would pull at the heart strings of a person who doesn't have the wit to ask the question you both asked. It would stir emotion in them that they might otherwise not feel since this person has something under their belt that makes him stand out more than all the other people who've died in Iraq. It just might hit a spot on certain people.




Huh so he was enroled in a school when some guys came in and shot the place up, so his death in Iraq is worth more than the othe 1000 or so guys who have died. It wasn't like he stopped the guys or anything, he went to school at the same time. BITCH ARE YOU OUT YO COTTENPICKING MIND!!!!!
 

kumanoki

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ShadowRed said:
Huh so he was enroled in a school when some guys came in and shot the place up, so his death in Iraq is worth more than the othe 1000 or so guys who have died. It wasn't like he stopped the guys or anything, he went to school at the same time. BITCH ARE YOU OUT YO COTTENPICKING MIND!!!!!


This isn't as fvcked up as you spoiling the end of Mystic River for me. :mad:
 
kumanoki said:
kumanoki -1 for posting sappy propaganda.

I kept staring at your name.. .something was different. I finally figured it out, whew


and, uh, yeah the irony is what made the story interesting
 
A soldier from Clark is killed near Ramadi
20-year-old adds to brutal Nov. toll in Iraq
Wednesday, December 01, 2004
BY RUDY LARINI
Star-Ledger Staff

Just before leaving for Iraq last summer, Army Pfc. Stephen C. Benish of Linden visited his senior- class English teacher at Arthur L. Johnson High School in Clark.

"I told him he looked like a lean, mean fighting machine," Kurt Epps said of the tall, lanky Benish. "I asked him where he was going and he said he was going to the Mideast. I told him that when he got back, he had to tell me all about it.


"He said, 'Mr. Epps, I'll be back.'"

Benish, 20, was killed Sunday morning when he was struck by enemy fire while on a foot patrol near Ramadi, an insurgent stronghold 70 miles west of Baghdad.


He becomes the 37th serviceman with ties to New Jersey to be killed since the fighting in Iraq broke out in March 2003. He also is one of at least 135 U.S. troops killed in November, matching April of this year as the deadliest month since the United States invaded Iraq.

Many died in the street-to- street fight to retake Fallujah or during gunbattles in cities such as Baghdad and Mosul. Others were killed by snipers, in accidents, or by shrapnel sprayed from roadside bombs.

Benish had joined the Army shortly after graduation from Johnson High and the Union County Vocational-Technical High School in 2002 and was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 503rd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Infantry Division, stationed at Camp Casey in South Korea. He deployed to Iraq in August.

"He died for his country. That's all I can tell you," said his father, Stephen J. Benish of Linden.

Benish's mother, Candy, who lives in North Carolina with his sister, Kelly, a student at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte, said Army officials told her yesterday that he was killed by a single gunshot to the neck just above his protective body armor.

Candy Benish said her son had requested the assignment to South Korea because he knew that training with that unit would lead to a mission in Iraq.

"That was my son's goal -- to go to Iraq," she said. "He wanted to make a difference in this world. They trained him as a gunner and he mastered every gun they put in front of him.

"He was deeply affected by 9/ 11," she added. "He called them brothers who perished in the Twin Towers."

In one of his last letters home, she said, her son spoke warmly of his battalion's chaplain, an Army captain.

"He is always in a good mood," Benish had written. "We could roll in after a terrible mission and there he is waiting for us with a smile on his face. I really like him. He's working on getting us some showers because he knows that will make us a lot happier."

But Benish well understood the dangers he faced.

"Thank you for praying for me," he wrote in one of those last letters. "God knows I will need it."

William Grimes of Garwood, a high school friend, said he learned of Benish's death Sunday night, hours after it happened.

But on Monday, he received a letter from his friend dated Nov. 18, just weeks earlier.

"I miss you, man," Benish wrote on the back of the two-sided letter. "I will be home for a month in a month or two. I can't wait, man. We will go nuts, I mean, seriously nuts. I love you, bud." Then he signed his name.

"P.S.," the letter closed, "I can't wait to hear from you."

Grimes got the letter shortly after getting a day-after confirmation of his friend's death. "The letter hit me the hardest at the end," Grimes said. "I just came home, and saw the letter. I was just so upset."

In an earlier letter, accompanied by an eight-page journal, Benish wrote to Grimes of his fears -- which were heightened when Benish attended a memorial service for a fellow soldier.

"The chaplain began to play 'Amazing Grace' on the bagpipes," Benish wrote in a Sept. 12 journal entry.

"It just hit me like a ton of bricks," Benish wrote. "I might die here. That would really (be awful). I do not want to die in this hellhole."

Benish was an electrician's helper before enlisting in the Army in December 2002, but his mother said his lifelong ambition was to someday become a fireman. She said he was a member of the Explorer post with the Cranford Fire Department since he was 12 years old and became a callman, or volunteer, in the paid department when he turned 18.

"From the time he was 4 years old and heard his first siren, he wanted to be a firefighter," his mother said.

Cranford Fire Chief Leonard Dolan said Benish's letter of resignation as a callman described his calling to the military as a "must."

"I have a strong desire to serve my country in these troubled times and I have enlisted in the U.S. Army," Dolan said Benish wrote.

"He was proud to serve his country and he was happy he was going to Iraq," the chief said. "He was a real happy-go-lucky kid, a lot of energy, always smiling and joking around."

A friend of Benish's in the Explorer post, John Dillon, 21, of Cranford, said Benish hoped to resume his firefighting work after finishing his military service.

"He was definitely looking forward to coming back to this department," Dillon said, adding that he and Benish started in the Explorers together. "But right now he was interested in being a kid, hanging out and having fun."

Benish's high school principal, Robert Taylor, said Benish wrestled at Johnson, but found it hard to devote time to athletics because he spent part of his school day at the county vo-tech program, where he studied electrical technology.

"He was just a great kid," Taylor said.

The Benishes issued a statement yesterday saying, "Our family is deeply saddened and sorrowful. Stephen was a great son and a great soldier who died fighting for what he believed in. Stephen served his country as a soldier to make a difference in the world. He will be forever missed by his family and his many friends."

In addition to his parents and sister, he is survived by his grandmothers, Helen Benish of Linden and Gwen Nellis of Clark.

Benish was born in Rahway and raised in Linden and Clark. After enlisting in December 2002, he completed basic and advanced individual training as an infantryman at Fort Benning, Ga., in June 2003 before being assigned to the 2nd Infantry Division.

Benish's mother said funeral arrangements were incomplete yesterday and she did not know when the body would be returned to the United States. In lieu of flowers, the family is asking that donations be made to the Explorer post at the Cranford Fire Department, 7 Springfield Ave., Cranford, N.J. 07016.

Yesterday, Epps was still struggling to come to grips with the loss of the young man he had seen just months ago.

"It just seems like yesterday that he was here when he walked into my classroom," the English teacher said. "Somehow I could swear it was just yesterday."

A little over a year ago we used to drink and smoke together. Good Man.

Being at the wake/funeral was surreal.
 

Socreges

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"It seems so unfortunate that you get through some things, but it catches up with you," Ken Holden, Rund's former high school counselor, told the Denver Post.
Do I not understand that correctly, or is that a terribly fucking stupid thing to say?

I'm sure a man with his wisdom would make a fantastic high school counselor.
 

hXc_thugg

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Socreges said:
Do I not understand that correctly, or is that a terribly fucking stupid thing to say?

I'm sure a man with his wisdom would make a fantastic high school counselor.

Final Destination 3: Columbine Survivors!
 

kumanoki

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Socreges said:
Do I not understand that correctly, or is that a terribly ------- stupid thing to say?

I'm sure a man with his wisdom would make a fantastic high school counselor.

Actually, my favorite quote is from the first article:

"He never did anything like everyone else did," the statement said. "He did everything to the extreme and always knew that somehow with his humor and a little luck, he would make it through."


I suppose his his humor and luck just ran out, huh? What a crap thing to say.
 
ShadowRed said:
Huh so he was enroled in a school when some guys came in and shot the place up, so his death in Iraq is worth more than the othe 1000 or so guys who have died. It wasn't like he stopped the guys or anything, he went to school at the same time. BITCH ARE YOU OUT YO COTTENPICKING MIND!!!!!

My god, shut up you pretentious asshole.

He posted a story of someone long his life who has already been through a lot. Did he say it was any worse than any other war-time deaths? NO.

Going through something like Columbine does have to fuck with your psyche for some time.
 

frogg609

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what I find most disturbing is that even after he has seen first-hand how destructive guns and violence can be, he still went into the military. i think that would shy me away faster than anything.
 

hXc_thugg

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frogg609 said:
what I find most disturbing is that even after he has seen first-hand how destructive guns and violence can be, he still went into the military. i think that would shy me away faster than anything.

Family probably couldn't afford to send him to school. That's how they get 'em!
 

ShadowRed

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Outcast2004 said:
My god, shut up you pretentious asshole.

He posted a story of someone long his life who has already been through a lot. Did he say it was any worse than any other war-time deaths? NO.

Going through something like Columbine does have to fuck with your psyche for some time.




WTF did he go through, he wasn't even there. For all we know he could have been skipping school when the shooting went down. Obviously if it did fuck up his psyche it didn't do it in a good way because he was killed basicly doing to the Iraqis what those guys did to Columbine. Had he become a non violence proponet and died in a shoot out then you would have something to post about.
 
The military needs to shore up compassion so we're left with stories like this. Anyway, I agree with Matlock's first post.
 

DaCocoBrova

Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
My condolensces and all 'at...

But news this is not... Unless you knew him. I don't think we (the general public) did.
 
ShadowRed said:
WTF did he go through, he wasn't even there. For all we know he could have been skipping school when the shooting went down. Obviously if it did fuck up his psyche it didn't do it in a good way because he was killed basicly doing to the Iraqis what those guys did to Columbine. Had he become a non violence proponet and died in a shoot out then you would have something to post about.

My god, you certainly are a jerk off. How do you know he wasn't there? You were?

Whats he gone through? Um let's see, possibly bearing witness to the unprovoked slaughter of his friends/calssmates. That kinda sticks with you, trust me. I saw a friend murdered. It's sticks with you, even 15 years later.

Then he gets to follow it up with participating in a war he wasn't expecting. He may or may not have supported said war, but that is irrelevant. He had seen more horrors in his short life than any of us here.

It's beacusse of these brave men and women that we (US) have the freedom to even have the differing opinions without consequence. Perhaps take those liberties and freedoms for granted, I sure as hell don't.

My heart goes out to the soliders whom have fallen and all their familes. I have people I know over in that hell hole, and am thankful every day that they will be able to come home soon.
 
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