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That watchmen thread got me in the mood for more comics, but i read so many it's hard to find anything worth picking up anymore. Reccomend me something decent! My preference is DEFINITELY toward non-superhero stuff if possible, or if it is superhero-ish make sure it's a twist on the subject and not some lame spiderman or superman shit. Also I hate almost all manga, so we can leave that out.

Here are some of the more popular things I've read so we can avoid these reccomendations:

Sandman
Seaguy
Jimmy Corrigan
Ghost World
Blankets
Maus
Planetary
Preacher
Powers
H-E-R-O
The Losers
Fables
Y-The Last Man
Sin City
Supreme Powers
Starman
Animal Man (Morrison run)
The Invisibles
Transmetropolitan
VIDEO
DEMO
Batman - Dark Knight Returns
300
Watchmen
V for Vendetta
Hellblazer
WE3

Help me out, yo.
 
Amir0x said:
That watchmen thread got me in the mood for more comics, but i read so many it's hard to find anything worth picking up anymore. Reccomend me something decent! My preference is DEFINITELY toward non-superhero stuff if possible, or if it is superhero-ish make sure it's a twist on the subject and not some lame spiderman or superman shit. Also I hate almost all manga, so we can leave that out.

Here are some of the more popular things I've read so we can avoid these reccomendations:

Jimmy Corrigan
Ghost World
Blankets
Maus
Planetary
Preacher
Powers
H-E-R-O
The Losers
Fables
Y-The Last Man
Sin City
Supreme Powers
Starman
Animal Man (Morrison run)
The Invisibles
Transmetropolitan
VIDEO
DEMO
Batman - Dark Knight Returns
300
Watchmen
V for Vendetta
Hellblazer
WE3

Help me out, yo.

I don't see anything by Neil Gaiman on that list, you should rectify that.

Hint, Sandman, hint, hint.

EDIT: DAMN YOU. =P Well, I give up, I only collect X-Men nowadays. I can't think of anything not already on your list.
 
Midnight Nation

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Bone

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AniHawk said:
Midnight Nation

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Read most of BONE, what is Midnight Nation about?

Matlock said:
rusty the boy robot is an astro boy kinda robot. he's mentally a child, superpowered as hell, but ultimately not the end-all be-all.

big guy is a giant ****in' robot piloted by an american soldier inside. shitloads of guns, combat instinct, and the reluctant mentor of rusty.

frank miller wrote it! geoff darrow illustrated!

http://random-m.com/images/2071626162_bgar2_0405.jpg
(example of interior art)

Interesting. I'll add it on me "to read" list.
 
Amir0x said:
Read most of BONE, what is Midnight Nation about?



Interesting. I'll add it on me "to read" list.

Well pick up the rest of Bone, damnit. >:(

Midnight Nation is by Michael Straczynski and he did Supreme Power. Very summarized version from what I can remember: Guy has to walk from Los Angeles to New York in order to recover his soul. I'll find a better summary.

EDIT:

Cop loses his soul and he "slips through the cracks." He gets stuck in a sort of reality with a bunch of other people who have been forgotten. To get his soul back he walks for a year across the US with a sort of.. guide.. of sorts. It's good. Not Blankets/Bone good, but good.

I'm real distracted right now. :\
 
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Imagine the world of Devil May Cry if it were penned by someone with talent, and weren't laden with raging homosexual subtext and emo-kid notebook scribbling - and you'll get close to The Marquis.

“The Marquis, by that ridiculously talented Davis person, quite frankly hit me right between the eyes like a killing hammer. Concept, character, and art, in one elegantly brutal package. The Marquis. It’s one of those remarkable anomalies this medium seems to spawn from nowhere every now and then. It’s quite unlike anything I’ve ever seen in comics…Ideas fly off the wall of Davis’ mind like flies on a corpse. Do yourself a favor and get your hands on anything by the title The Marquis. So good it hurts.”
— Michael Zulli, artist on Sandman,
Delicate Creatures, The Last Temptation

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Dr. Ashar Ahmad has discovered how to cheat death. Through the miracles of applied science, he's able to construct membranes that can trap the living soul after the physical body has passed. Dr. Ahmad can create living coffins.
He just never imagined that he'd have to use them on himself...

THE COFFIN is a clever twist on the classic Frankenstein myth. Here we have a man devoid of conscience who discovers his humanity only after he's assassinated by his psychotic employer. The irony being that, in becoming a monster, Dr. Ahmad just may discover how to become a man.

With THE COFFIN, Phil Hester and Mike Huddleston have successfully grafted the nineteen-fifties mad scientist yarn to a canvas drawn from the best of Lovecraftian horror. This is one of those high concept books that very easily could descend into camp or mediocrity, but fortunately that's not the case here. Instead, THE COFFIN is a moody, atmospheric piece that blends some truly haunting visuals with a fast-paced engaging storyline. If there were ever such a thing as a Friday night graphic novel, THE COFFIN would be it.

-- Peter Aaron Rose
 
I'm tired, but I'll list some recommended creators that I don't think are included in the stuff you listed.

Paul Chadwick
Jim Woodring
P. Craig Russell
Mike Allred
Peter Bagge
Bob Burden
Will Eisner
Steve Rude
Kyle Baker
Matt Wagner
 
AniHawk said:

I just sold mine on Amazon for 100 bucks yesterday. Bought it for 20 last year. Yay capitalism! :D

Anyway, I see you (amirox) have a taste for Morrison. Amen. The Filth tpb came out last year, a very good read. Also, Morrison's Doom Patrol issues are finally being collected. Global Frequency by Warren Ellis is highly recommended. Queen & Country (Rucka) is a good pickup if you liked The Losers. Sleeper (Ed Brubaker) is another good one in the spy/CIA/FBI vein. And of course 100 Bullets, but some say it's been fizzling out lately (I'm still somewhere in the 20s).
 
VALIS said:
I just sold mine on Amazon for 100 bucks yesterday. Bought it for 20 last year. Yay capitalism! :D

Whoa, really? I doubt mine would go for much (it's been signed by Jeff Smith to me with Fone Bone waving <3 <3), but that's pretty nuts.
 
AniHawk said:
Whoa, really? I doubt mine would go for much (it's been signed by Jeff Smith to me with Fone Bone waving <3 <3), but that's pretty nuts.

The going rate for it on Amazon has been about $80-$120 recently. My listing at $99.99 was up for about 12 hours before it sold!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/188896314X/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Your signed copy could probably fetch $250 or more if it's in good shape (currently there's a signed hardcover for $350). Awesome you got it signed. I don't know if I'd sell it myself.
 
I've never really read any comics before. Save for one here or there as a kid. I'm actually starting to develope something of an intrest in them though. The Marvel universe seems to intrest me the most, although I don't know where to start with it. I looked into the character Deadpool a bit and thought he seemed pretty cool, and considered maybe picking up compiliation of earlier ones of him(you can get those right? like they will package a bunch of back issues into one big book?).

What else can you guys recommend for a comic newbie intrest in Marvel? Perferably in a compilation book of some sort if possible.
 
VALIS said:
The going rate for it on Amazon has been about $80-$120 recently. My listing at $99.99 was up for about 12 hours before it sold!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/188896314X/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Your signed copy could probably fetch $250 or more if it's in good shape (currently there's a signed hardcover for $350). Awesome you got it signed. I don't know if I'd sell it myself.

Well it's personalized. Fone Bone is saying, "Hi Adam!" and Smith's sig is at the bottom. That's why I doubt it'd go for as much, but I'm never ever selling it.
 
Note: I'm going to pretty much disregard your guidelines for recommendations and just tell a story about most/all the american comics I've read.

I've always disliked the idea of superhero comics for the most part (though I liked the cartoons and all), and for most of my life I've totally ignored american comics in general (and most japanese ones). Over the past few years though I've tried to ignore my sentiment towards the retarded nomoment type of people and give american comics a real shot.

Starting from a few years ago:

Ultimates: I really dug the art, didn't really care for the pop culture references (hulk smash freddy prinze junior etc.), but liked it overall.

Ultimate Spider-man: Shit. I mean, dumb whiny kid whines constantly is basically how it went. Readers outside of emo 12 year olds need not apply.

DKR: Excellent, but we all know that.

Deadpool (a few issues): loved it, wanted to read more, couldn't get my hands on any more at the time.

Age of Apocalypse (didn't know the reading order, didn't have access to the complete thing): buhhhhh what the hell is going on.




After that I pretty much stopped for a year or two, with the exception of Watchmen which I read a few months back (excellent of course). In the last week though my interest has been sparked again and I've been reading a bunch of marvel stuff:



Cable & Deadpool: single-handedly got me into american comics seriously. I thought Deadpool was damn cool a few years back when I was able to read some issues from the solo Deadpool series, and it comes together all over again here. It may not be high brow literature but it's highly entertaining (especially in how the two main characters play off each other), with straightforward but well-crafted art (disregard the liefeld covers) and a story that knows where it's going. Liked it so much that I actually subscribed to it (also because it's kind of in dangerous sales territory and I don't want it to be cancelled).

Wolverine V3 (Specifically the Enemy of the State / Agent of SHIELD 12-issue arc): lovely art, very well realized story arc told by mark millar. Wolverine may be supremely overexposed but that didn't matter here. Very impressed.

Astonishing X-men: joss whedon thinger focusing on kitty pryde returning to the x-men and uhh well mostly random crap used as an excuse to further character development. The story itself doesn't feel like anything special, but the character interactions are very strong (being whedon and all), and the art is interesting.

Deadpool: started from the beginning. It's kinda slow and pedestrian starting out, but really comes into its own eventually when the whole mithras story arc kicks into gear. Deadpool, heavily disfigured mercenary guy, goes on an introspective journey (heh) to figure out whether he wants to stay a villain/gun for hire or become a hero, every step influenced by outside parties and his own zany dimentia. Lots of other fun stuff too. When it's on, it's really on, and I'm not even up to the lauded Simone run at the end. Very tongue-in-cheek.

Age of Apocalypse: Okay, attempt #2 at this. This time I'm not just randomly reading associated issues, but even so it's not entirely holding my interest. I dunno, art from this period mostly sucks and it doesn't even feel like it has much depth by comic book standards. Only about halfway through though. *shrug*


That's it for now. Here's a few pics for the above.

Cable & Deadpool:

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Deadpool:

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Wolverine (Enemy of the State / Agent of SHIELD):

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Astonishing X-Men:


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today i walked by a garage sale and picked up Ghost World and Adrian Tomine's Sleepwalk for 50 CENTS EACH! holy hell what a find

i suggest shaolin cowboy. the little dialogue you will find is well written but most of it is spread after spread of the shaolin cowboy fackin up fools with extreme gore. it is visually stunning
heres a peek:
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Rlan said:
Marvel newbie? Get into the Ultimate Spider-Man / X-Men / Ultimates Trade Paperbacks.

Great reading.

Isn't the Ultimate comics set in another Universe? I kinda feel like I should start in the traditional Marvel Universe, but if it really doesn't matter I guess I can try that.

Should I get something like this for Ultimate Spider-Man?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0760761337/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Or is there something else better out there?
 
Amir0x said:
Also I hate almost all manga, so we can leave that out.

Help me out, yo.

If you'd hate on something like Monster simply because it is manga, I fear that you may be beyond help!

read monster
 
Ultimates are a different Universe, but in the regular universe, all the House of M / Civil War BS is going on. Like the DC Crisis / One Year Later BS, they'll be trying to print as many comics as possible which intertwine with each other so you can get the whole story intact.

It'd just be a HUGE pain :)
 
EviLore said:
awesome deadpool stuff

Man that shit rules! Seriously, where can I get that?

If I can't get compilations should a typical local comic store have back issues of it from the beginning? And what are the titles of the compilations books if there are any?
 
Rlan said:
Ultimates are a different Universe, but in the regular universe, all the House of M / Civil War BS is going on. Like the DC Crisis / One Year Later BS, they'll be trying to print as many comics as possible which intertwine with each other so you can get the whole story intact.

It'd just be a HUGE pain :)

Yeah, I wasn't that intrested in starting where the series was at the moment, which is why I was asking about the compilation sort of thing, where I can get a whole bunch of issues for an older comics of a series. What I read about the House of M, it didn't sound very intresting to me. The stuff thats already said to be classic is what I'm intrested in, which House of M doesn't sound like its proven yet... but I wouldn't know for sure.
 
If I can't get compilations should a typical local comic store have back issues of it from the beginning? And what are the titles of the compilations books if there are any?

God damn, ain't ya never heard of Amazon.com?

Go there, type in Deadpool.

Duh.
 
The Take Out Bandit said:
God damn, ain't ya never heard of Amazon.com?

Go there, type in Deadpool.

Duh.

I did that, but there are like are about 5 or so different book titles, and there aren't really descriptions for them. When I said I don't know where to start, I honestly have no idea where to start. I don't know which one of those books I should be on the look out for.
 
Oh, and a good money saving tip since most Marvel shit isn't worth the paper it's printed on - check your local library.

The library system here is pretty good about stocking trades, and god knows it's saved me a ton of money. :D
 
Rotanibor Eht said:
I did that, but there are like are about 5 or so different book titles, and there aren't really descriptions for them. When I said I don't know where to start, I honestly have no idea where to start. I don't know which one of those books I should be on the look out for.

As far as buyin' 'em:

Well Cable & Deadpool is the current series and is relatively easy to get ahold of. There are five trade paperback volumes out, and while the first three are out of print they shouldn't be expensive or difficult to obtain.

The Deadpool series...well, the trade paperbacks seem to be going for $100 each, so yeah, good luck.
 
The Take Out Bandit said:
It's days like these I ask, what the hell is wrong with people? :P

Seriously though, would it be that hard to just REPRINT the stuff? The market really should evolve to be less "in the moment" if it wants to stay healthy, I think. I mean, most of the stuff I want to buy is OOP...

Guess the market is just too small to have a ton of things in print at any given time.
 
EviLore said:
As far as buyin' 'em:

Well Cable & Deadpool is the current series and is relatively easy to get ahold of. There are five trade paperback volumes out, and while the first three are out of print they shouldn't be expensive or difficult to obtain.

The Deadpool series...well, the trade paperbacks seem to be going for $100 each, so yeah, good luck.

Hmm. So do you think I could jump into Cable & Deadpool without reading Deadpool or any Cable comics and be alright? I know most of the important parts of the characters backstory from just looking it up on the internet from time to time, would the general stuff I know be enough?
 
So do you think I could jump into Cable & Deadpool without reading Deadpool or any Cable comics and be alright?

Dude, you're not buying a car. You're dropping from $3 to $15 on a funnybook. Shit or get off the pot.

Christ, when I was a kid and I was interested in a comic, I didn't sit there shitting my pants over semantics. I bought the one that caught my eye and went along for the ride.

Buy a comic.

If you like said comic - seek out the trades of the back issues.

It's not rocket science, or the stock market.
 
Rotanibor Eht said:
Hmm. So do you think I could jump into Cable & Deadpool without reading Deadpool or any Cable comics and be alright? I know most of the important parts of the characters backstory from just looking it up on the internet from time to time, would the general stuff I know be enough?


Well that's how I did it, pretty much. I had read a few deadpool issues years ago, and I uhhh sorta remembered Cable from the X-men cartoon as a kid, but that was pretty much the extent of it. I looked up some info on wikipedia and such when I felt in the dark, but it's pretty straightforward.

As mentioned, deadpool comics may be difficult to obtain. As far as Cable comics...well, rob liefeld has been heavily involved in most of the other cable-related comics, so you may want to stay far away ;b. Far as I can tell, cable is at his most interesting and properly conceived in Cable & Deadpool compared to his older stuff, but I haven't really read X-force or any of that to have a first hand experience.

So yeah, grab the first volume or two of the Cable & Deadpool tpb and if you like it just pick up the other three tpbs and maybe start following the individual issues (marvel just made it available for direct subscription at their website...$23 for a year's sub -- 12 issues)



Pretty much what TToB said ;b
 
The Take Out Bandit said:
Dude, you're not buying a car. You're dropping from $3 to $15 on a funnybook. Shit or get off the pot.

Christ, when I was a kid and I was interested in a comic, I didn't sit there shitting my pants over semantics. I bought the one that caught my eye and went along for the ride.

Buy a comic.

If you like said comic - seek out the trades of the back issues.

It's not rocket science, or the stock market.

Money's tight. I can still spend money here and there, but I can't go wasting it. I just want to be sure on what the shit I'm buying man. You didn't piss on the thread starter for asking for opinions and thoughts, lay off.

And thanks a lot Evil Lore, I got all I needed to know. I'll probably go pick up a Cable & Deadpool comic this coming week.
 
Lobo! Lobo Lobo Lobo Lobo Lobo Lobo Lobo Lobo Lobo Lobo Lobo Lobo Lobo.

Did I mention Lobo? Because you should really give Lobo a try.

Lobo!

(What can I say, it's my kind of comedy)
 
Runaways

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Just finished reading Volume 1 today, really enjoyed myself. Basically a group of teenagers find out their parents are supervillians, and things just snowball from there. Surprised Runaways wasn't mentioned earlier...


Secret War

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I also got the Secret War hardcover in yesterday, couldn't put it down. Beautiful art by Dell'Otto and Bendis' story really grabbed my attention. Just imagine Nick Fury leading Spider-Man, Daredevil, Captain America, Wolverine, Luke Cage, and Black Widow in a covert operation. Hijinks galore!


DC: The New Frontier


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This is follows the main characters of the DC universe around and uses modern comic storytelling to look at the problems of the past. Plus it gets major points for me because of Darwyn Cooke's art style. I love it!


Secret War is the only one that might not have the big twist on the genre you're looking for. But its a bit far from being your normal adventure. There are some questionable moral choices made, thats all I'll say.
 
Walking Dead Omnibus

Especially if you really can get it for $100 right now. it is the first 24 issues of the series, and is one of the best zombie stories (IMHO) ever. You CAN pick up the trades for a bunch cheaper (I think maybe 50 for everything that is here), but having it in one gorgeous oversized hardcover definitely rocks. though even if you go with the SC trades, the story still remains awesome.
 
Stray Bullets by David Lapham. Indie comic published by El Capitan press (you can find the volumes for sale on Amazon). Very excellent black and white comic with pulpy and noir-ish overtones. One of my absolute favorites.
 
I'd like to second the The Marquis, as well as the Walking Dead comics...

I'd like to add:

Charles Burns Black Hole

From wiki:

Black Hole is a graphic novel written and illustrated by Charles Burns. It was originally published as a 12-issue comic book series between 1995 and 2005 by Kitchen Sink Press and Fantagraphics, and then released in a compiled hardcover edition by Pantheon Books in 2005.

Set in the suburbs of Seattle during the mid-1970s the book follows a group of mostly middle class teenagers who contract a mysterious sexually-transmitted disease known as "the Bug" or "the teen plague", which causes them to develop bizarre physical mutations, turning them into social outcasts. Some take shelter in a suburban home while the owners are away on vacation, while others with more visible deformities lurk in "The Pit", an encampment in the woods outside of town. The mutations are often considered a metaphor for AIDS an illness that would ravage in the next decade (the 70s were often considered the height of the sexual revolution). The look of the comic is meant to evoke the feel and atmosphere of classic 70s teen horror films like The Last House on the Left, Carrie and Halloween.

In November 2005, the message board of the Comics Journal reported that Black Hole will be adapted to film by the French director Alexandre Aja (Haute Tension). In March 2006, comics news site Newsarama reported that Neil Gaiman and Pulp Fiction co-writer Roger Avary would be adapting the screenplay, and in May 2006 Gaiman confirmed this in a Time magazine interview.

Issue #12 of the series was nominated for the Harvey Award for Best Single Issue or Story in 2005.

Mike Allred's Red Rocket 7

From Amazon:

Fleeing a distant planet and the marauding extra-terrestrial conquerors taking it over, the original Red Rocket crash-lands on earth. Near death, his robot guard made six clones to ensure that his lineage would continue. Each was imbued with a special aspect of the original`s personality. Beginning in the mid-`50s and continuing on into the future, Seven wanders through the history of rock `n` roll. Life isn`t just a party, though, because the evil Enfinites are on his heels the entire time.
 
bjork said:
If you'd hate on something like Monster simply because it is manga, I fear that you may be beyond help!

read monster

You gotta tell me what it's about first for me to consider it!

Grizzlyjin said:
Runaways
Secret War
DC: The New Frontier

I absolutely hated Runaways, I read it for a while to see if I'd like it but it was just filled with the type of terrible pappy 'fake teenage' dialogue that really pisses me off. It just wasn't authentic in the least, imo. Read Secret War before, I believe I thought it was ok.

Never read New Frontier... might give it a go, but I'm especially hesitant to read most comics featuring some of the more popular characters from the DC or Marvel universe. Those are the ones I tend to hate the most. I usually like something more along the lines of Alias if it's gonna use established heroes. But I'll put it down and pick it up if I see it.

Baka Zeitgeist said:
I'd like to second the The Marquis, as well as the Walking Dead comics...

I'd like to add:

Charles Burns Black Hole

That sounds rad. I'll pick it up.

Re: I ordered the Marquis, so we'll see how that goes
 
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