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Consider that the conservative political movement, which now has a hammerlock on every aspect of federal government, has a media message machine fed by more than 80 large non-profit organizations – let's call them the Big 80 – funded by a gaggle of right-wing family foundations and wealthy individuals to the tune of $400 million a year.

And the Big 80 groups are just the "non-partisan" 501(c)(3) groups. These do not include groups like the NRA, the anti-gay and anti-abortion groups, nor do they include the political action committees (PACs) or the "527" groups (so named for the section of the tax code they fall under), like the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, which so effectively slammed John Kerry's campaign in 2004.

To get their message out, the conservatives have a powerful media empire, which churns out and amplifies the message of the day - or the week - through a wide network of outlets and individuals, including Fox News, talk radio, Rush Limbaugh, Oliver North, Ann Coulter, as well as religious broadcasters like Pat Robertson and his 700 Club. On the web, it starts with TownHall.com

Fueling the conservative message machine with a steady flow of cash is a large group of wealthy individuals, including many who serve on the boards of the Big 80.

Rob Stein has brilliantly documented all of the above in "The Conservative Message Machine Money Matrix," a PowerPoint presentation he has taken on the road across the country, preaching to progressives about the lessons that can be learned and the challenges that need to be overcome.

In the face of all the conservatives have assembled, Stein is nevertheless still optimistic, in part based on what he saw as promising, unprecedented levels of collaboration among progressives leading up to the 2004 election. But he emphasizes, there is much to do. "We, of course, continue to have far more challenges than answers or enduring capacities," Stein says. "Indeed, everything that happened in 2003-2004 can best be described as a 'stirring,' not a solution. We have miles to go before we have built a strategic, coordinated, disciplined and well-financed community of local, regional and national organizations, which collectively can mobilize a majority progressive constituency."

However, "progressives should not emulate what conservatives have done," says Stein, a former activist and chief of staff under Ron Brown at the Commerce Department in the Clinton administration. "Conservatives have built remarkably successful institutions and strategic alliances in the 20th century that presumably are consistent with their values and, we know, are effective in promoting their beliefs.

"Progressives have different values, this is the 21st century, the conservative infrastructure is in place and will continue to grow, and so we have to do it all differently," Stein adds. "We must build from both the ground up and from the top down. We must be technologically sophisticated and new media, narrowcast-savvy. We must build institutions capable of great flexibility to deal with the rapid pace of change in the world. We need a new generation of leaders able to integrate the local/global complexity of the world to manage our institutions in 2010, 2020 and beyond."

Since he left the Commerce Department, Stein worked at the Democratic National Committee, and has been a venture capitalist, specializing in women-owned businesses. His PowerPoint message is particularly aimed at educating people with power, influence and money - the high net worth individuals who can provide the backing to build a progressive infrastructure. After two stunning electoral defeats and the virtual Republican dominance in Washington these days, Stein's message has acquired a new urgency.

Stein says he woke up the day after Election Day in 2002 and realized "we have a one-party state in this country." He decided to figure out how it all happened - how conservatives, despite a healthy majority of Americans opposed to their platform and positions, managed to build an infrastructure and a message machine that is so effective and pervasive.

It Didn't Happen Overnight

The story of the conservative rise that Stein portrays begins back in the early 1970s, when there was panic among conservatives, especially in corporate boardrooms, that capitalism was under serious attack, and something drastic had to be done about it. The National Chamber of Commerce asked Lewis Powell, a former head of the American Bar Association and member of 11 corporate boards, to write a blueprint of what had to be done. The result, says Stein, is one the most prescient documents of our time. The memo lays out the framework, the goals and the ingredients for the conservative revolution that has gained momentum and power ever since. Two months after penning the memo, then-President Richard M. Nixon appointed Powell, a Democrat, to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Powell told the conservatives that they needed to confront liberalism everywhere and needed a "scale of financing only available through a joint effort" focused on an array of principles including less government, lower taxes, deregulation and challenging the left agenda everywhere. The conservative right, starting with seed money from the Coors Brewing family and Richard Mellon Scaife's publishing enterprise, moved forward to implement virtually every element of the Powell memo. It is a story of how the conservatives – in spite of political differences, ego, and competing priorities – were able to cooperate and develop a methodology that drives their issues and values relentlessly.

Starting with just a handful or groups, including the Heritage Foundation, in the early '70s, the conservatives built a new generation of organizations – think tanks, media monitors, legal groups, networking organizations, all driven by the same over-arching values of free enterprise, individual freedoms and limited government.

Stein describes how the message machine works. If Rush Limbaugh wants something on vouchers – it's immediately in his hands; if Fox News' Bill O'Reilly needs a guest to talk about the "death tax," he's got him from one of the think tanks. Stein estimates that 36,000 conservatives have been trained on values, issues, leadership, use of media and agenda development. These are not the elected officials, but rather the cadre of the conservative network. Stein figures that the core leaders of the Big 80 groups he studied are about 2,000 people who make between $75,000 and $200,000 and have all been trained in the Leadership Institute.

The wealthy conservative families that have been the early bread and butter of the movement and continue their support are relatively well known at this point, including Scaife from Pittsburgh, Lynde and Harry Bradley from Milwaukee, Joseph Coors from Colorado; and Smith Richardson from North Carolina. Important networking goes on at the Philanthropy Roundtable, where groups are showcased.

But the key today to keeping the message machine fed is what Stein calls the "investment banking matrix," which includes key conservatives like Grover Norquist, Paul Weyerich, and Irving Kristol, who raise, direct, and motivate. Stein estimates there are about 200 key people who invest an average of $250,000 a year and about 135 of them also serve on the boards of the Big 80 groups

"Each of these groups are 'mission critical,' and they are strategic, coordinated, motivated and disciplined," says Stein, adding that the investment bankers monitor them closely.

And contrary to popular belief among progressives, the conservatives who are part of that machine are of various stripes – far right, neo-conservative, libertarian, evangelical, etc. – but what makes them so successful is they form strategic alliances around common issues they support.

Then there is the conservative media machine, which operated at full power to get George W. Bush re-elected in 2004. Conservatives and their allies were able to magnify their message through a network of right-leaning TV and radio channels, including Rupert Murdoch's Fox News Channel, which provided Bush and Co. with a 24/7 campaign infomercial - for free. Here was a news network with more viewers than CNN and MSNBC combined, constantly repeating, often verbatim, the messages out of the White house and the Bush campaign.

More help for Bush came from the far-less known religious broadcasters. "Under the radar screen, the Christian Church community has created a formidable electronic media infrastructure and now plays a major role influencing public opinion," says Jeffrey Chester, executive director of the Center for Digital Democracy. The religious media are producing and distributing "news," commentary and cultural guides, and their reach and influence are undeniable.

As veteran investigative reporter Robert Parry argues, Bush's electoral victory proved that the conservatives have achieved dominance over the flow of information to the American people - so much so that even a well-run Democratic campaign stands virtually no chance for national success without major changes in the media system. "The outcome of Election 2004 highlights perhaps the greatest failure of the Democratic/liberal side in American politics: a refusal to invest in the development of a comparable system for distributing information that can counter the Right's potent media infrastructure," according to Parry. "Democrats and liberals have refused to learn from the lessons of the Republican/conservative success."

The Road Ahead

Now, for the audience hearing Stein's presentation – in the face of such devastating information, and the power of the conservative juggernaut – one might expect that paralysis and depression would set in among the listeners. But in fact the opposite has been happening. The problem is being named. It is visible, concrete, it makes people angry and then determined to act.

And, says Stein, there are "very important lessons" to be learned from the conservative experience over the past 40 years. For starters, progressives must learn to find common ground and set aside some differences they may have. "A movement is built upon 'marriages of convenience' among disparate, but inter-related, strains of a broad coalition which is able to agree upon some core values," Stein believes. "It is okay for there to be disagreement within the family; not everyone will be equally interested in the same set of issues."

Citing the example of the Apollo Alliance, Stein says progressive groups "must develop well-managed, highly effective, issue-focused strategic alliances which transcend their institutional egos and their competitive instincts."

Stein sees reason for hope, citing the progressive momentum and energy evident during the 2004 presidential campaign in groups like the Center for American Progress, AmericaVotes, America Coming Together (ACT) and the Campaign for America's Future.

"However one evaluates the actual performance of these initiatives – and obviously they all have strengths and weaknesses – they represent a new breed of collaborative enterprise," says Stein. "AirAmerica, Democracy Radio, and Media Matters are also important new beginnings. And this is all happening because a highly energized, more strategic community of high net worth individuals made significant new financial commitments to all of these enterprises. This is exceedingly hopeful."

But Stein is a realist as well and believes change will not happen overnight.

"Our major obstacles are atomization, balkanization and minimalization of our grassroots and national groups, our donors and our political operations," Stein adds. "We have very few effective strategic alliances among existing organizations (more this time electorally than ever before); very few organizations with the scale necessary to make a major impact; too few passionately progressive, politically motivated individual donors who know one another and work together; lack of long-term strategic thinking; lack of appropriate and necessary coordination and discipline; to name a few."

Nevertheless, the progressive community has a major asset base, in part developed during the 2004 election – with a good number of donors – at least 50 of whom have given in the $1-10 million level, and a small gaggle of billionaires. The devastating impact of Stein's PowerPoint, in an ironic way, is a good sign, because it gives people, especially donors, a handle on what is needed to move forward.

"A movement must have a diversified funding base of small, medium and large donors," Stein says. "The large donors must have the following attributes: be passionately progressive, intellectually curious, want to be operationally involved in the organizations they fund, willing to work and learn together as a community of donors, be willing to write very large checks every year to the groups they fund, and encourage their family and friends to also invest."

There are a lot of eyes on Stein as he moves forward to build a deeper, more dependable funding base for progressive infrastructure. Stein's effort is called the Democracy Alliance. He describes it as a network of high net worth individuals committed to promoting progressive ideals by investing in strategic, long-term local, regional and national capacity building.

One donor who sits on the board of a progressive foundation and has heard the Stein rap is worried that the "top down" nature of things so painfully obvious in the 2004 election could be perpetuated by Stein and other funding efforts like those of billionaires like George Soros and Peter Lewis. "It is so important to get resources down to the grass roots," says the donor, who wished to remain anonymous. "One of the major failings of these big donors meeting with each other and deciding where all the money should go is they reinforce each other. Where is the fresh thinking? They think one big idea should get all the money or one or two leaders should be the gatekeepers. That is not going to work. Putting all that money in the ACT basket certainly didn't do the trick in the past election, nor will giving it all to Podesta and Center for American Progress help build progressive infrastructure at the local level where it is needed, particularly outside of the Democratic party."

To his credit, Stein says quite clearly that "top down" and "bottom up" together are essential for future progressive success. Only time will tell whether he and his donors are prepared to let go of some of the controls, really get the money out of Washington, and let some roots grow at the local level.

This article is a version of material that will appear in the forthcoming book by AlterNet, "Start Making Sense: Turning the Lessons of Election 2004 into Winning Progressive Politics," edited by Don Hazen and Lakshmi Chaudhry. It will be available in April, published by Chelsea Green Publishing.

I'd pay some good money to see that PowerPoint presentation.
 

Socreges

Banned
I met a few young Republicans this weekend. Great people! Though they seemed curiously insecure about admitting they were Republican. :)
 
Willco said:
Yes, because Democrats raise money with lemonade stands.

The article, if you read it, which you didn't judging by your response, has nothing to do with raising money.

It's about the infrastructure.
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
Incognito said:
The article, if you read it, which you didn't judging by your response, has nothing to do with raising money.

It's about the infrastructure.

Nah, I didn't. It's pretty obvious by the first paragraph that it's an article written in bias and I don't care for that crap anymore. It'd be the same if Bill O'Reilly made The Left-Wing Air Balloon article or something.
 
Willco said:
Nah, I didn't. It's pretty obvious by the first paragraph that it's an article written in bias and I don't care for that crap anymore. It'd be the same if Bill O'Reilly made The Left-Wing Air Balloon article or something.

:lol :lol :lol

It's backed up with sources. Jesus.
 

Triumph

Banned
Objectivity is for pussies. So what if they're biased if what they're saying is correct?

Have fun punching the clock for Manchurian Global, suckers.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
And bias nullifies credibilit? Bullshit.

Who's the one who said they didn't even read the fucking article? Pathetic.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
Consider that the conservative political movement, which now has a hammerlock on every aspect of federal government, has a media message machine fed by more than 80 large non-profit organizations – let's call them the Big 80 – funded by a gaggle of right-wing family foundations and wealthy individuals to the tune of $400 million a year.
Guess it doesn't take much to make Willco run home crying "Bias".
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
Hitokage said:
Guess it doesn't take much to make Willco run home crying "Bias".

Eh, I get bored when people tell me either party is so powerful or not powerful enough or they have agendas.

What-fucking-ever.

Objectivity is for pussies. So what if they're biased if what they're saying is correct?

Again, I get bored when people feed me information because they have an agenda, which is obviously what the person who wrote this article has.

I mean, this forum will love it, because it's filled with liberals and that's fine, but - hey! - I don't really care. And again, it'd be the same if someone wrote an article called The Democrats Make a Lot of Money and Kill Babies and had photos of John Edwards killing babies and rolling in a pile of money.

I don't care.

Have fun punching the clock for Manchurian Global, suckers.

:lol
 

Triumph

Banned
Willco said:
Eh, I get bored when people tell me either party is so powerful or not powerful enough or they have agendas.

What-fucking-ever.
Thank you for being part of the problem. Go drink some drano or at the very least sterilize yourself.

For fucks sakes. The parties don't have agendas? Were you THROWN as a baby?
 

bob_arctor

Tough_Smooth
Raoul Duke said:
Objectivity is for pussies. So what if they're biased if what they're saying is correct?

This is what I've been trying to get at, more or less. :)
Everything being equal, if we agree it's all bullshit, the 2 party system, no real choice--why wouldn't we agree with the "side" that's inherently less evil? Isn't this an obvious thing? Or are the democrats/left-wing actually more evil by playing to our sympathies and limited altruism and really, self-preservation, if this administration is anything to go by, while in reality they are simply stabbing us in the gut all along?
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
Raoul Duke said:
Thank you for being part of the problem. Go drink some drano or at the very least sterilize yourself.

For fucks sakes. The parties don't have agendas? Were you THROWN as a baby?

I never said they don't have agendas. I said I get bored when people tell me that they have agendas. Duh. I know this. Re-read that statement.

Two party system does suck, though.
 

Triumph

Banned
Willco said:
I never said they don't have agendas. I said I get bored when people tell me that they have agendas. Duh. I know this. Re-read that statement.

Two party system does suck, though.
Are you saying that you don't CARE what their agendas are? Or that you're just so smart that you have it all figured out and it's all good in the hood? Cause somehow, I don't believe you on the last one there.
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
Raoul Duke said:
Are you saying that you don't CARE what their agendas are? Or that you're just so smart that you have it all figured out and it's all good in the hood? Cause somehow, I don't believe you on the last one there.

No.

I am talking about biased articles, news stories, etc. Not political parties. I think you need to separate that.

I don't like it when Random Guy tells me what really boils down to his take of Political Party A or Political Party B based on sources that amazingly corroborate Random Guy says.

Or if you're a Random Girl, anything Ann Coulter says.

I mean, from the beginning of this article, it's quite obvious the author is going to go in to how that Republican party is a cold, powerful money-sucking machines that uses its vast resources to win elections and whatnot.

And what of the poor, innocent Democrats? They are surely doomed!
 
Of course the author of the article has an agenda, so the fuck what? He's detailing(in short) how the conservative machine works, and it's damn cool insight.
 
olimario said:
Sources nullify bias? Bullshit.

:lol

No, but the sources back up his facts on the conservative movement. Geez, you all are ready to pounce, aren't you?

Try actually reading the WHOLE article.
 
Actually, I found this little history lesson on the conservative movement pretty cool. Retards screaming about bias can take their CareBears and play with themselves at home and watch FoxNews.
 
Socreges said:
I met a few young Republicans this weekend. Great people! Though they seemed curiously insecure about admitting they were Republican. :)
In Canada? Hrm what are they up to now.

As for the article, it's been written before. Matt Bai of the NYTimes had a good write up around the time of the Democratic National Convention. All the bickering in this thread misses out on how influential Stein's Powerpoint presentation has been. It has successfully been used to persuade leftist deep pockets to invest in the left's future. Although I'm proud that more Kerry voters donated money to the cause than the Bush voters, deep pockets are indeed needed for future battles. We might not be satisfied with the current status, but it is vital that we continue the struggle with the allies we have.
 
Just because a side feels strongly about something and airs it publically doesn't mean its message is beneath consideration. Sometimes -- SOMETIMES -- vocal opinions are the right ones.

That said, there's nothing more obnoxious than the feigned "objectivity" of the deliberately ignorant. "TH' WAY AH FIGURE IT, BOTH SAIDES CAIN'T BE RIGHT DUH HYUK BUT THEY SHORE CAN BE LOUD!! AH FIGURE AH KNOW WHAT'S BEST EVEN THOUGH AH AIN'T DONE A LICK O' RESEARCH HUR HUR GAWD DAMN KNOW-IT-ALLS ON THE HILL WHY I OUGHTA HYUK HYUK"


If you choose ignorance, you forfeit your opinion.
 

Uter

Member
Incognito said:
Of course the author of the article has an agenda, so the fuck what? He's detailing(in short) how the conservative machine works, and it's damn cool insight.

This entire article is predicated on the implied assumption that most conservative actions are coordinated in some way according to some preset plans.

Individual media personalities with their own opinions and taking advantage of available sources of information are immediately labeled as being part of a vast network forming a "powerful media empire". Individual groups who may only share a fundamental interest on a few key issues with other groups immediately are connected along with them to this vast "Conservative Message Machine Money Matrix".

Does it matter that they are fundamentally unconnected and only share certain specific core beliefs, information or uncoordinated links? No. If individuals, organizations, media personalities, and groups are connected in any way, whether it be through individual donors donating based on their ideological beliefs to several different unconnected groups/politicians/organizations, uncoordinated use of general publically available information from varying "conservative" organizations/writers/groups, through the internet with writers who span the spectrum of ideologically positions but who are "connected" because of central sites that carry multiple writers and commentary, grassroots organizations that share one or more specific core beliefs and promote activism for officials that share their views, etc. If any connections like that are found going in either direction, the assumed implication is that they are part of a "Conservative Message Machine Money Matrix".

This is nothing but leftist fear-mongering. How amusing that this "Message Machine Money Matrix" is nowhere mentioned or seemingly noticed on the left. As if there aren't similiar situations based on the same vague and non-specific "connections"? haha, pot kettle black. Where do we see specific facts and evidence listing the central planning and agreements by all these individuals, political organizations, grassroots movements, politicians, donors etc, to coordinate all their actions and movements? This kind of random biased thread connecting borders on conspiracy speculation. It may be fantastic for political and ideological rhetoric and propaganda, and more to the point fundraising and motivating loyal activism, but it is hardly useful for any kind of objective look at the real reasons behind why and how these differing segments come together in support over certain specific core beliefs, and what those beliefs are to begin with...
 

Azih

Member
Willco said:
I never said they don't have agendas. I said I get bored when people tell me that they have agendas. Duh. I know this. Re-read that statement.
Eh. That wasn't even a focus of the article. The article focused on the strategies and tactics taken by a political movement to get its message across. Now sure there was a 'ohmigosh we need to counter this!' vibe over it. But the base arguments (effective strategies and tactics for influencing public discourse) is interesting no matter what your political stripe is.
 

Azih

Member
Also Please what's with the cries of bias? Right wingers are saying the exact same thing that this article is saying. It's just that instead of being apprehensive and negative the mood is happy and jubilant.


I mean I saw this guy a few days ago on the Daily Show and this is his book http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1566252520/102-2335247-2555317

Focusing on the grass roots media machine built by conservatives, written by a conservative with a 'my god we rock!' feel to it.


What I'm saying is that calling bias on a discussion of STRATEGY and methodology is stupid.
 
Does it matter that they are fundamentally unconnected and only share certain specific core beliefs, information or uncoordinated links? No. If individuals, organizations, media personalities, and groups are connected in any way, whether it be through individual donors donating based on their ideological beliefs to several different unconnected groups/politicians/organizations, uncoordinated use of general publically available information from varying "conservative" organizations/writers/groups, through the internet with writers who span the spectrum of ideologically positions but who are "connected" because of central sites that carry multiple writers and commentary, grassroots organizations that share one or more specific core beliefs and promote activism for officials that share their views, etc. If any connections like that are found going in either direction, the assumed implication is that they are part of a "Conservative Message Machine Money Matrix".
The problem is that the left does not have it to the same extent that the right does. The left has long lagged behind the right in fundraising. This ppt file will help to balance the inequality.

Uter said:
This is nothing but leftist fear-mongering. How amusing that this "Message Machine Money Matrix" is nowhere mentioned or seemingly noticed on the left. As if there aren't similiar situations based on the same vague and non-specific "connections"? haha, pot kettle black. Where do we see specific facts and evidence listing the central planning and agreements by all these individuals, political organizations, grassroots movements, politicians, donors etc, to coordinate all their actions and movements? This kind of random biased thread connecting borders on conspiracy speculation. It may be fantastic for political and ideological rhetoric and propaganda, and more to the point fundraising and motivating loyal activism, but it is hardly useful for any kind of objective look at the real reasons behind why and how these differing segments come together in support over certain specific core beliefs, and what those beliefs are to begin with...
If you had read the articles linked in this thread, maybe you would have noticed that a left version of the "Message Machine Money Matrix" is indeed talked about. Amusing indeed.
 

Uter

Member
Hammy said:
The problem is that the left does not have it to the same extent that the right does. The left has long lagged behind the right in fundraising. This ppt file will help to balance the inequality.

Is this comment an implicit admission that the aim of this ppt file and book is fundraising?... Amazing how this ppt file is not made publically available along with the article seeing as how absolutely no proof is provided to back up any of the vague claims about the implied vast coordinated connections which form the "Message Machine Money Matrix". Should I assume or imply that this is a cynical greedy money and power based decision, to loudly publically proclaim a vast conspiratorial like system and only provide the "proof" at specific friendly events whose focus is fundraising and increasing activism?

What should I assume from your total non-response to the larger points I made in my post? Exactly what proof is given factually showing that ALL these listed conservative actions and connections are coordinated in some way according to some preset plans as the article implies??? How are the links mentioned in anyway different from progressives/liberals/leftists and their "Message Machine Money Matrix-like" large grassroot movements, writers and media personalities, enormous mainstream media presence, union support and involvement, Hollywood, dependence on large amounts of wealthy donors connected to other groups/organizations/people, 501(c)(3) groups, "527" groups, political action committees, left-wing supported think tanks, internationalist support, the large majority of academics, George Soros and his rich friends and numerous organizations designed to influence elections and policy, investment bankers, etc. But somehow all of that is nowhere near to the same extent of the right... Laughable at best.

And that still does not answer the basic question of, how exactly could I possibly try to imply or make direct statements claiming some kind of "Message Machine Money Matrix" on the left based simply on connections made and support given because of a general support for certain basic ideals and beliefs??? That would be an illogical assumption to make without direct proof of centralized planning and direction with the agreement and obedience of all parties involved. That is ridiculous.

Without said "proof", I will have to rely on the objective assumption that interconnecting involvement on each side with other like-minded groups/organizations/people is simply based on the pursuit of similiar goals and not due to some kind of implied vast planned and coordinated conspiratorial "Message Machine Money Matrix".


Hammy said:
If you had read the articles linked in this thread, maybe you would have noticed that a left version of the "Message Machine Money Matrix" is indeed talked about. Amusing indeed.

http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/21192/

I was specifically commenting on this one article, not any and all articles together, this was clear from my original response. And in this article Don Hazen quotes Rob Stein who states:

However, "progressives should not emulate what conservatives have done," says Stein, a former activist and chief of staff under Ron Brown at the Commerce Department in the Clinton administration. "Conservatives have built remarkably successful institutions and strategic alliances in the 20th century that presumably are consistent with their values and, we know, are effective in promoting their beliefs.

"Progressives have different values, this is the 21st century, the conservative infrastructure is in place and will continue to grow, and so we have to do it all differently," Stein adds. "We must build from both the ground up and from the top down. We must be technologically sophisticated and new media, narrowcast-savvy. We must build institutions capable of great flexibility to deal with the rapid pace of change in the world. We need a new generation of leaders able to integrate the local/global complexity of the world to manage our institutions in 2010, 2020 and beyond."

No CURRENT left version of the "Message Machine Money Matrix" is mentioned in the article, in fact one can see that they specifically do not believe any exists, which is why they talk about creating one, but one that is different and according to their perception of "values". My comment, "How amusing that this "Message Machine Money Matrix" is nowhere mentioned or seemingly noticed on the left. As if there aren't similiar situations based on the same vague and non-specific "connections"?", was in specific reference to their acknowledgement of CURRENT similiar connections which aren't acknowledged in a similiar manner to conservative connections in that article. I can and have made the same kind of unfounded connections that they did except concerning the left. They never bother to use the same logic they apply to others on themselves and their own movement.

And posters here respond with outraged indignance at comments about bias in the article?... :roll eyes:
 

Uter

Member
Incognito said:
The article, if you read it, which you didn't judging by your response, has nothing to do with raising money.

It's about the infrastructure.

hahaha, really??

http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/21192/

Since he left the Commerce Department, Stein worked at the Democratic National Committee, and has been a venture capitalist, specializing in women-owned businesses. His PowerPoint message is particularly aimed at educating people with power, influence and money - the high net worth individuals who can provide the backing to build a progressive infrastructure. After two stunning electoral defeats and the virtual Republican dominance in Washington these days, Stein's message has acquired a new urgency.


"However one evaluates the actual performance of these initiatives – and obviously they all have strengths and weaknesses – they represent a new breed of collaborative enterprise," says Stein. "AirAmerica, Democracy Radio, and Media Matters are also important new beginnings. And this is all happening because a highly energized, more strategic community of high net worth individuals made significant new financial commitments to all of these enterprises. This is exceedingly hopeful."

But Stein is a realist as well and believes change will not happen overnight.

"Our major obstacles are atomization, balkanization and minimalization of our grassroots and national groups, our donors and our political operations," Stein adds. "We have very few effective strategic alliances among existing organizations (more this time electorally than ever before); very few organizations with the scale necessary to make a major impact; too few passionately progressive, politically motivated individual donors who know one another and work together; lack of long-term strategic thinking; lack of appropriate and necessary coordination and discipline; to name a few."

Nevertheless, the progressive community has a major asset base, in part developed during the 2004 election – with a good number of donors – at least 50 of whom have given in the $1-10 million level, and a small gaggle of billionaires. The devastating impact of Stein's PowerPoint, in an ironic way, is a good sign, because it gives people, especially donors, a handle on what is needed to move forward.

"A movement must have a diversified funding base of small, medium and large donors," Stein says. "The large donors must have the following attributes: be passionately progressive, intellectually curious, want to be operationally involved in the organizations they fund, willing to work and learn together as a community of donors, be willing to write very large checks every year to the groups they fund, and encourage their family and friends to also invest."

There are a lot of eyes on Stein as he moves forward to build a deeper, more dependable funding base for progressive infrastructure. Stein's effort is called the Democracy Alliance. He describes it as a network of high net worth individuals committed to promoting progressive ideals by investing in strategic, long-term local, regional and national capacity building.

One donor who sits on the board of a progressive foundation and has heard the Stein rap is worried that the "top down" nature of things so painfully obvious in the 2004 election could be perpetuated by Stein and other funding efforts like those of billionaires like George Soros and Peter Lewis. "It is so important to get resources down to the grass roots," says the donor, who wished to remain anonymous. "One of the major failings of these big donors meeting with each other and deciding where all the money should go is they reinforce each other. Where is the fresh thinking? They think one big idea should get all the money or one or two leaders should be the gatekeepers. That is not going to work. Putting all that money in the ACT basket certainly didn't do the trick in the past election, nor will giving it all to Podesta and Center for American Progress help build progressive infrastructure at the local level where it is needed, particularly outside of the Democratic party."

yeah, this SO had nothing to do with raising money or targeting large and powerful donors... You did read this ENTIRE article, didn't you?? :lol :lol :lol
 
Uter said:
Is this comment an implicit admission that the aim of this ppt file and book is fundraising?... Amazing how this ppt file is not made publically available along with the article seeing as how absolutely no proof is provided to back up any of the vague claims about the implied vast coordinated connections which form the "Message Machine Money Matrix". Should I assume or imply that this is a cynical greedy money and power based decision, to loudly publically proclaim a vast conspiratorial like system and only provide the "proof" at specific friendly events whose focus is fundraising and increasing activism?
I honestly don't care if it's coordinated or not. The right has a better version than the left. A problem found. A solution is needed.

What should I assume from your total non-response to the larger points I made in my post?
uh that I agree with them?

movements, writers and media personalities
examples?
, enormous mainstream media presence,
my own personal opinion is that the right controls the msm
union support and involvement
which is swamped by corporate donations
Hollywood
what about it?
dependence on large amounts of wealthy donors connected to other groups/organizations/people
the democrats were fortunate this time around that the Kerry voters donated more money than did the Bush voters.
501(c)(3) groups, "527" groups, political action committees
?
left-wing supported think tanks
the Heritage, Cato, and Hoover institutes have been around much longer. For instance, the Center for American Progress, which was built to counter the Heritage Institute and its ilk was only started a couple of years ago. Compare that to decades in the cases of the Heritage and Cato institutes.
, internationalist support
as if it helps. witness what happened in Ohio and the letter writing campaign
the large majority of academics
omg the ivory tower liberals
[/quote], George Soros and his rich friends and numerous organizations designed to influence elections and policy,[/quote]
I wish they were successful

http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/21192/

I was specifically commenting on this one article, not any and all articles together, this was clear from my original response. And in this article Don Hazen quotes Rob Stein who states:



No CURRENT left version of the "Message Machine Money Matrix" is mentioned in the article, in fact one can see that they specifically do not believe any exists, which is why they talk about creating one, but one that is different and according to their perception of "values". My comment, "How amusing that this "Message Machine Money Matrix" is nowhere mentioned or seemingly noticed on the left. As if there aren't similiar situations based on the same vague and non-specific "connections"?", was in specific reference to their acknowledgement of CURRENT similiar connections which aren't acknowledged in a similiar manner to conservative connections in that article. I can and have made the same kind of unfounded connections that they did except concerning the left. They never bother to use the same logic they apply to others on themselves and their own movement.

And posters here respond with outraged indignance at comments about bias in the article?... :roll eyes:
try reading the NY Times one. It covers much of the same materials and adds some more interesting information.
 

Triumph

Banned
-jinx- said:
Get me some proof, and let's talk.
Dude, I'm about to open my eighth beer. Proof isn't in my vocabulary at this point.

Magic 8 ball sez it's either him or Ripclawe, tho.
 

firex

Member
It's not iron knuckle or ripclaw. Iron knuckle appealed to emotion too much.

Anyway, looking at the gigantic media infrastructure makes me wonder: when the hell did politics become a war? what can be done to get rid of all this bullshit and go back to people trying to actually resolve the problems of our society, like government is supposed to?
 

sefskillz

shitting in the alley outside your window
firex said:
what can be done to get rid of all this bullshit and go back to people trying to actually resolve the problems of our society, like government is supposed to?
revolution
 
Raoul Duke said:
Dude, I'm about to open my eighth beer. Proof isn't in my vocabulary at this point.

Magic 8 ball sez it's either him or Ripclawe, tho.

I dunno who the hell he is, but he showed up on my Million Dollar Baby thread attacking it by saying the main character should be punished by law in the movie for the "crime" of
euthanasia
he commits. And now he defends the republican party. I SAY HE'S A RIGHT-WING LUNATIST! LET'S CRUCIFY HIM!
 
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