Copyright Industry Calls For Broad Search Engine Censorship

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I'm 100% opposed to censorship and don't like the way piracy has been fought, but I don't really understand how the industry can even begin to compete. How do you compete with free? Serious question, I want to know what people are proposing.

Netflix found a way. Apple found a way.
 
I'm 100% opposed to censorship and don't like the way piracy has been fought, but I don't really understand how the industry can even begin to compete. How do you compete with free? Serious question, I want to know what people are proposing.
They cannot compete with free. They can compete with ease of access. You want to watch US TV shows in Europe? You have to wait 6 months. The Pirate Bay has them immediately after airing. You want to watch something else? Here's a low-quality crashy plugin using DRM'ed to oblivion. You should be able to do whatever you want. This doesn't work on an internet where information exchange is still mostly free. Torrents and other filesharing aren't even that user-friendly, but it's a small chore to go through for something you can do with whatever you want. If these entertainment companies spent their money on setting standards for open access instead of lobby groups, it could look very different for them.
 
I'm 100% opposed to censorship and don't like the way piracy has been fought, but I don't really understand how the industry can even begin to compete. How do you compete with free? Serious question, I want to know what people are proposing.

Netflix, Hulu, Spotify.
 
I'm 100% opposed to censorship and don't like the way piracy has been fought, but I don't really understand how the industry can even begin to compete. How do you compete with free? Serious question, I want to know what people are proposing.

See: Steam.

Offer the customer a superior service than they can get with piracy.
 
I'm 100% opposed to censorship and don't like the way piracy has been fought, but I don't really understand how the industry can even begin to compete. How do you compete with free? Serious question, I want to know what people are proposing.

It's all about convenience. Honestly, pirating is relatively easy for a minority of people, but getting things through official channels can always be more convenient.

Apple was able to take the piracy-laden MP3 scene from the Napster days and provide a $.99 model that a ton of people used because Apple's version was more convenient in the following ways:
- Secure
- Easy to search
- Easy to move to MP3 playing devices (iPod)
- Reliable quality

Netflix is doing much the same with video streaming. It's definitely possible to do this, but these companies are living in the past, where they could count on consumers having to wait months/years at a time for content, having to overpay for content, etc.
 
New times require new business models. Urging censorship just sounds like deterring disruption to me, so much for innovation.
 
Isn't this basically making the search engines legally obliged to advertise those websites for no revenue?

That would be my understanding. This does not sound like it is just about de listing torrent results, but prioritising results which the 'copyright industry' approves of.
 
Netflix found a way. Apple found a way.

Netflix took advantage of the fact that streaming wasn't popular, incredible profits in great part due to really cheap licenses.

They cannot compete with free. They can compete with ease of access. You want to watch US TV shows in Europe? You have to wait 6 months. The Pirate Bay has them immediately after airing. You want to watch something else? Here's a low-quality crashy plugin using DRM'ed to oblivion. You should be able to do whatever you want. This doesn't work on an internet where information exchange is still mostly free. Torrents and other filesharing aren't even that user-friendly, but it's a small chore to go through for something you can do with whatever you want. If these entertainment companies spent their money on setting standards for open access instead of lobby groups, it could look very different for them.

Netflix, Hulu, Spotify.

Uh, they can't compete with access either.

Most legal content providers have accounts, transaction authorizations and so on. Pirated content is just one click away.

So yeah, the access excuse, just like the price excuse, doesn't really work.

See: Steam.

Offer the customer a superior service than they can get with piracy.

Like I said before, are you implying that you want EVERYONE to start an online storefront?


He could always offer them for free on his own.

New times require new business models. Urging censorship just sounds like deterring disruption to me, so much for innovation.

If you don't mind me asking, how exactly has innovation been restricted?
 
They cannot compete with free. They can compete with ease of access. You want to watch US TV shows in Europe? You have to wait 6 months. The Pirate Bay has them immediately after airing. You want to watch something else? Here's a low-quality crashy plugin using DRM'ed to oblivion. You should be able to do whatever you want. This doesn't work on an internet where information exchange is still mostly free. Torrents and other filesharing aren't even that user-friendly, but it's a small chore to go through for something you can do with whatever you want. If these entertainment companies spent their money on setting standards for open access instead of lobby groups, it could look very different for them.

Funny you say that....

The VP of EMI says just that.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...r-to-piracy-is-providing-better-service.shtml


Uh, they can't compete with access either.

Most legal content providers have accounts, transaction authorizations and so on. Pirated content is just one click away.

So yeah, the access excuse, just like the price excuse, doesn't really work.
Thats a load of crap. Signing up and signing in is nothing. Most of the pirates in stuff like movies use different file types, rar files, sometimes have viruses and crap, and things like games require much more tech knowledge that your average consumer knows.

Netflix is one website you click play you´ve got your movie. simple stuff. It´s also intergrated into TV, Video game systems, phones, etc. With spotify you fire up one app and search for the song and your good. Thats a lot better than using google, navigating the site, downloaded and then importing it.
 
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Id hate for this to be abused and legit sites get ranked down cause "they are competitors".

Hence the licensing part. Its one thing to de-rank infringing sites but to artificially boost rankings with a "license", that's anti competitive right there.
 
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