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[FlyinJ]

Is it common to have red bleed on all CRTs?

I have a 30" Wega HD, and I get slight red bleed on text displayed from the left edge of my screen to about 2 inches in.

It's pretty minor red bleed... I've seen worse. But, it does gets a bit more drastic nearer the left edge of the screen.

Is there a way to correct this?

 

[Error Macro]

Yep, red push.

You're gonna need to get a DVD like Avia and calibrate your set.

If you're feeling brave and adventurous, you can access your TVs service menu and tweak the settings in there.

 

[FlyinJ]

Yeah, people keep suggesting getting that DVD and calibrating.

Unfortunately, I find that I'm always having to adjust the brightness on my set for different games. So, if I get the "perfect" tuning with that DVD, as soon as I have to adjust my set for a dark game it's lost.

I can't seem to find a happy medium with darker games. The higher my brightness, the more red blur there is around text. If I turn down the brightness and adjust the picture, the red goes away somewhat... but I can't see anything in the game.

Drives me nuts.

 

[sykoex]

damn buying an hdtv is so scary, there's downsides to every kind of tv you can buy it seems.

 

[Error Macro]

The easiest fix is for you to turn down the color saturation (menu adjustment "COLOR", of course) to the point where the reds are more tolerable. You will lose some vibrancy, but it's better than those annoying reds.

And if you get a calibration DVD like Avia, all is not lost if you have to adjust your brightness. It can help with other things like proper tint levels, contrast, color, brightness, sharpness, etc. Sometimes I have to adjust the brightness level for some games, but it's just one tweak, and I can adjust it back easily.

If you watch movies on your TV, you need Avia. If it's just for games, then not really, but it could help.

 

[Ghengis Cohen]

I returned mine when I first got it the red was so bad. Next set was fine though.

 

[Error Macro]

Here are my quick fix guidelines:

-Turn down the color to a point where reds are tolerable, but the picture is not almost black and white... Find a good compromise
-Turn the Contrast (white level) down so that bright areas are not blooming (bleeding)
-Turn Sharpness all the way down as far as it can go. The Sharpness adjustment is a sharpness filter, and at any setting higher than the lowest it can go will distort the picture and ruin the contrast level
-Try to adjust the Tint so that flesh tones look accurate; not too purple, not too green
-Adjust brightness so that blacks are black in a darkened room, but not too black as to wipe out shadow detail.

 

[FlyinJ]

Cool thanks for the tips.


Doing that helped a lot.

Yet, even after doing it, text is still a bit blurry near the left side of the set.

It's most noticable with the yellow text in PGR3.

Is there a site with JPGs of what an acceptable level of red push is? And red push is usually localised to one side of the set, right?

 

[Hayami]

check avsforum.com -- they've got some great calibration options for loads of TVs.

 

[FlyinJ]

Oh, and one more thing:

On my set, I have "Vivid, Standard, Movie and Pro" as selectable "Picture" presets. Are these simply different settings of Picture, Brightness, Color, Hue and Sharpness, or is there something inherrently different about how it displays the screen?

Because I've set both "Movie" and "Pro" to the same exact settings, yet they still look noticably different.

 

[distantmantra]

If you have the INHD channels and a DVR/TIVO, INHD1 runs an HD Tune Up program Saturday mornings at 4am. Might be worth recording.

 

[Error Macro]

Oh, and one more thing:

On my set, I have "Vivid, Standard, Movie and Pro" as selectable "Picture" presets. Are these simply different settings of Picture, Brightness, Color, Hue and Sharpness, or is there something inherrently different about how it displays the screen?

Because I've set both "Movie" and "Pro" to the same exact settings, yet they still look noticably different.

Yes, the most important thing about the different settings is that they will change the NTSC color decoder's settings.

For instance, for movies, the "movie" setting should get you close to 6500K color temperature. However, for games, you'll find that that setting looks muted and reddish. I like to dedicate a setting other than the Movie setting for game playing. It seems that game developers like to develop for TVs that are set too blue; consequently, settings like "vivid" "game" "pro" etc., give a better image for video games.

 

[FlyinJ]

Thanks for all the advice.

I tried reading up on various av forums, but it was all gobbly-gook to me.

Do you guys often adjust your brightness on a per-game basis? Should I be upping the brightess when things are too dark, or the contrast/color or something else?

I have no idea when it comes to adjusting televisions.

 

[Blaster1X]

Is it common to have red bleed on all CRTs?

No

I have a 30" Wega HD, and I get slight red bleed on text displayed from the left edge of my screen to about 2 inches in.

It's pretty minor red bleed... I've seen worse. But, it does gets a bit more drastic nearer the left edge of the screen.

Is there a way to correct this?

Search your model on AVS to find the fix for red push. you would most likely have to go into the service menu.

 

[gblues]

I haven't bothered using the Avia disks, I just use the "THX Optimizer" tool on a few of my DVDs as a close-enough approximation. Once I do that, I don't make any changes at all.

Nathan

 

[stewy]

I just got a Panasonic HDTV. Get a setup disc. You can mess around with it all you want, but the difference once you've gone through a few different setups is amazing.

I find that my TV is pretty dark for certain games, too. But your color settings shouldn't be affected by brightness that much if you have the TV set up properly. You shouldn't have to touch the color or contrast at all.

I have no bleed at all since using the disc.

And yeah, keep your picture setting to standard, and your color setting to cool.

 

[HokieJoe]

Here's a thread over at AVS on calibrating a direct view Sony:

The definitive SM codes for getting the most from your sony!

However, just a general word of warning. These are service menu tweaks, if you F anything up in there, you may need the factory or an ISF tech to fix it for you. If you decide to do these tweaks, the best practice is to write down ALL OF YOUR FACTORY DEFAULT settings before you make any adjustments. Every set will vary a bit, so it's important that you do this.

If this thread doesn't apply to your set, I'm sure there someone over in the Direct View (single tube based) Displays forum that can point you in the right direction.

BTW, Error Macro gave you some great suggestions as good starting point. You'd probably be better served to start easy and work your way up; but the info is there if your feelin' froggy.