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Dave Filoni Promoted to Executive Creative Director at Lucasfilm

ManaByte

Gold Member
George's Padawan has made it to Master. Before Anakin Skywalker too.


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ManaByte

Gold Member
Turns out this is old news:

Last summer, Lucasfilm quietly promoted the executive producer and frequent writer and director of “The Mandalorian” to executive creative director for the entire studio, a rep confirms with Variety. But the company didn’t update its website with Filoni’s new title until this week, which is when it began to percolate, and then explode, across Reddit and Twitter, as if the promotion had just happened.
There is another reason that some “Star Wars” fans rejoiced at the news of Filoni’s title of “executive creative director”: Kennedy remains a lightning rod for a certain subset of the fandom, and predictions that she is leaving Lucasfilm have become so common they are practically white noise. But as other fans have also noted on Twitter, Kennedy is the one who gave Filoni his promotion, and Disney’s leadership has given no indication that Kennedy will be leaving her post any time soon.


He's had the position for a year now.
 
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Batiman

Banned
Always like him even though I could never get into CW. I’m a huge SW fan but I just don’t like the animation style. Still he knows SW and is passionate about it so I’m down
 

Men_in_Boxes

Snake Oil Salesman
He needs to sneak in a snuff scene in the next Star Wars to do what is good and right and kill the franchise once and for all. He can't waste his one chance.
 

Kimahri

Banned
One step closer to the talentless, visionless, useless hack Kennedy being put out to pasture.
I love how keyboard warriors just know exactly how little someone with her resume have contributed.

Star wars was shit, but come the fuck on.
 

Kev Kev

Member
Within the space of a few years Star Wars fans will get very mad at him. This is their way.
Exactly

no matter what, every star wars is going to be shat on. It’s to the point where people are making YouTube channels into careers bc they get so many views and subs from hating on SW, and I don’t even believe they are being genuine half the time, but by then it’s too late. So many people have jumped on the hate bandwagon that it just becomes the thing to do. Lol it’s so fucking stupid. Fucking nerds 🤣 just shut up it’s a stupid laser sword movie
 
Exactly

no matter what, every star wars is going to be shat on. It’s to the point where people are making YouTube channels into careers bc they get so many views and subs from hating on SW, and I don’t even believe they are being genuine half the time, but by then it’s too late. So many people have jumped on the hate bandwagon that it just becomes the thing to do. Lol it’s so fucking stupid. Fucking nerds 🤣 just shut up it’s a stupid laser sword movie

That doesn't explain the popularity of The Mandalorian. Sure there were haters but it generated an overwhelming amount of positivity for the brand, even among those haterade YouTube channels. SW fans have the same exact passion as any fandom....I mean, do you follow sports at all? The SW fanbase is just larger.

And regarding SW being a stupid laser sword movie - that is what it has become, not what it originally was. The originals were character and narrative focused modern myths that happened to have awesome special effects.......since then it's been all about special effects, Force Power levels, prophecies, shooting lightning from your hands, doing backflips, overly choreographed pretentiously long fight scenes and newer more ridiculous lightsaber designs. The franchise suffers everytime it strays from the core values of the original films.

And guess what? As soon as they make a show focused on characters/narrative again - i.e. The Mandalorian - they have a massive hit with both fans and the general public. That is why SW fans are frustrated - because they've been screaming about wanting this for decades. They're also pissed because both the prequels and especially the sequels actively try to fuck up the story and characters in the originals. Try fucking with popular sports franchises 40+ years old with dedicated fanbases....shit, just look at what happened with the recent Superleague in football. Over a "stupid game where you kick a stupid ball into a net", they should just shut up.
 

rkofan87

Gold Member
That doesn't explain the popularity of The Mandalorian. Sure there were haters but it generated an overwhelming amount of positivity for the brand, even among those haterade YouTube channels. SW fans have the same exact passion as any fandom....I mean, do you follow sports at all? The SW fanbase is just larger.

And regarding SW being a stupid laser sword movie - that is what it has become, not what it originally was. The originals were character and narrative focused modern myths that happened to have awesome special effects.......since then it's been all about special effects, Force Power levels, prophecies, shooting lightning from your hands, doing backflips, overly choreographed pretentiously long fight scenes and newer more ridiculous lightsaber designs. The franchise suffers everytime it strays from the core values of the original films.

And guess what? As soon as they make a show focused on characters/narrative again - i.e. The Mandalorian - they have a massive hit with both fans and the general public. That is why SW fans are frustrated - because they've been screaming about wanting this for decades. They're also pissed because both the prequels and especially the sequels actively try to fuck up the story and characters in the originals. Try fucking with popular sports franchises 40+ years old with dedicated fanbases....shit, just look at what happened with the recent Superleague in football. Over a "stupid game where you kick a stupid ball into a net", they should just shut up.
but mandalorian might be hated again with gina getting canned.
 

Kev Kev

Member
That doesn't explain the popularity of The Mandalorian. Sure there were haters but it generated an overwhelming amount of positivity for the brand, even among those haterade YouTube channels. SW fans have the same exact passion as any fandom....I mean, do you follow sports at all? The SW fanbase is just larger.

And regarding SW being a stupid laser sword movie - that is what it has become, not what it originally was. The originals were character and narrative focused modern myths that happened to have awesome special effects.......since then it's been all about special effects, Force Power levels, prophecies, shooting lightning from your hands, doing backflips, overly choreographed pretentiously long fight scenes and newer more ridiculous lightsaber designs. The franchise suffers everytime it strays from the core values of the original films.

And guess what? As soon as they make a show focused on characters/narrative again - i.e. The Mandalorian - they have a massive hit with both fans and the general public. That is why SW fans are frustrated - because they've been screaming about wanting this for decades. They're also pissed because both the prequels and especially the sequels actively try to fuck up the story and characters in the originals. Try fucking with popular sports franchises 40+ years old with dedicated fanbases....shit, just look at what happened with the recent Superleague in football. Over a "stupid game where you kick a stupid ball into a net", they should just shut up.
ugh, ive been in the debate so many time i dont even wnat to do it. it never goes anywhere and we just wind up disagreeing... but here goes... *deep breath in*

the mandalorian is amazing, but it feels nothing like the OT. its way more modern, the music is different, there are tons of special effects, cool choreography and there are even a few backflips (OH THE HORROR!! lol) and it doesnt have enough hype surrounding it to bring out the haters. just wait till the next movie comes out. itll get shat on, as always. i mean, just check out all the SW hate videos with millions of views on them. the people making them obviously see that is working for them, why would they stop? itd be foolish and theyd probably wind up losing money bc of it. they cant stop, they have to keep hating SW

and i disagree with the whole idea that SW is some deep meaningful narrative. its a good story and there are themes in it that mean a lot to me personally, but at the end of the day its just a space movie with amazing music and a nice story. a lot of people who see the original trilogy for the first time these days say they are just okay but definitely dont live up to the hype. some even say they just straight up suck.

and whats the matter? you dont like fun? i mean who the hell gets bent out of shape about great special effects, cool looking laser sword fights, backflips and what not? its an all ages popcorn flick that supposed to be fun. it isnt Shakespeare or some mega nuanced narrative with heavy, read between the lines, deep thinking required. its a space movie with an engaging story and its just supposed to be fun, which is exactly what the prequels and sequels are (ok maybe the politics was a bit much in the PT, but the story of how palpatine gained control of the republic couldnt be told without politics... and the ending to rise of skywalker was dumb, so fair enough on that...). but i dont understand the argument that we cant have those things in a movie about space wizards and laser swords :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy:

and no one is "actively trying" to fuck up the characters lol. there is no conspiracy, but you are sounding quite a lot like those guys on the youtube videos who are basically making a living off of shitting on SW. lol, dude, no one is trying to destroy your childhood. you guys get so weird with your defense of the OT and accusations of the people making the new movies. not sure where to begin to address that.

i think you just want something that no one can give: to be wowed and amazed like you were the first time you saw the OT. but that cant happen because there will never be another OT. we just have to move on and try to make new movies without holding them up to those kind of ridiculous standards.

*deep breath out* ok go nuts. i dont have the energy to go back and forth. we both made our points but i dont see it going anywhere. especially if youre int he camp of the people making the new movies purposefully trying to destroy the old characters, lol that is just whacko conspiracy babble
 

Davey Cakes

Member
i dont like that they shit canned her the way they did... but ngl, i thought she was a horrible actor
I'm absolutely against the way Gina was treated by Lucasfilm and Disney. They basically tried to wipe her off the face of the Earth. They removed her image from the marketing. Hasbro recalled the Cara Dune merchandise. It was insane.

That said, there's a rabid crowd of pro-Gina people that are slobbering over the Cara Dune character and I just...don't get it. Gina was treated badly, yes, but I don't think her character or portrayal was vital to The Mandalorian at all. She was fine in that supporting role, but from the get-go I was flabbergasted by the idea that she'd get her own show.

Any audience interest in Gina as Cara Dune could be replaced with Katee Sackhoff as Bo-Katan, easily.
 
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ManaByte

Gold Member
I'm absolutely against the way Gina was treated by Lucasfilm and Disney. They basically tried to wipe her off the face of the Earth. They removed her image from the marketing. Hasbro recalled the Cara Dune merchandise. It was insane.

But Disney still tried to get her an Emmy nomination.
 

oagboghi2

Member
Exactly

no matter what, every star wars is going to be shat on. It’s to the point where people are making YouTube channels into careers bc they get so many views and subs from hating on SW, and I don’t even believe they are being genuine half the time, but by then it’s too late. So many people have jumped on the hate bandwagon that it just becomes the thing to do. Lol it’s so fucking stupid. Fucking nerds 🤣 just shut up it’s a stupid laser sword movie
Seriously, fuck off with this nonsense. The last decade of SW has been bad, and they aren’t disliked because of YouTube channels.

it’s because Disney released some weak films.

if they make good content. People will enjoy it. If they release crap, people won’t. It’s not that difficult to understand.


Within the space of a few years Star Wars fans will get very mad at him. This is their way.
Dave Filonli has been making Star Wars content for over a decade. If Star Wars we’re going to turn on him, they are what, a decade late?
 
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oagboghi2

Member
It took people two decades to turn on George.
It took 3 bad prequel movies for people to “turn” on George

did Filoni make 3 bad prequel movies, or did he run a bunch of shows and create a ton of new characters people really like?

like I know the new excuse is “Star war fans hate everything”, and “let’s blame YouTube” but can you cut the bullshit?
 
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oagboghi2

Member
No it started long before that. The "George Lucas raped my childhood" bullshit started in 1996 with the first trailer for the Special Editions.
Who fucking cares. Star Wars still sold millions of copies of that edition, and his prequel films, despite being heavily criticized, made bank at the box office.

wow, Star Wars fans must not like him at all. Clearly the trolls in 1996 speak for the fan base 30 years later.

and those prequel films, which fans turned on, according to you, are still referenced by those same fans in all types of ways, commercially and in the fan community.

It’s almost like if you create some content people like, which Filoni has done, and it resonates with fans, you won’t be criticized
 
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LordCBH

Member
if they make good content. People will enjoy it. If they release crap, people won’t. It’s not that difficult to understand.

Key example is the High Replublic garbage that Kennedy’s LucasFilm shat out into the world. Interesting concept ruined by absolute garbage writing and characters.
 

SinDelta

Member
Star Wars fans will never be happy because what they want has not and will never exist.
Ah one could also argue they do exist in multiple forms actually. (Excluding 1313 unfortunately.) Its all up to one's personal taste.
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One step closer to the talentless, visionless, useless hack Kennedy being put out to pasture.
Kathleen Kennedy is the reason SW is even relevant still. She’s one of the best in the field. Just because JJ couldn’t follow up TLJ doesn’t change that.

Also his position has nothing to do with hers 🤦‍♂️
 
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oagboghi2

Member
This is the only part of your piece of shit post I’ll respond to, didn’t even read the rest, and all I have to say about it go fuck your self and peace out biotch ✌️
Take your tired crap somewhere else
Key example is the High Replublic garbage that Kennedy’s LucasFilm shat out into the world. Interesting concept ruined by absolute garbage writing and characters.
Compare something like high republic to the clone wars show. They are doing very similar things, but one was well written and the other reads like fab fiction.


Kathleen Kennedy is the reason SW is even relevant still. She’s one of the best in the field. Just because JJ couldn’t follow up TLJ doesn’t change that.

Also his position has nothing to do with hers 🤦‍♂️
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Yeah, I’m sure Star Wars would be completely forgotten if it wasn’t for KK. 🙄

I mean seriously?
 
ugh, ive been in the debate so many time i dont even wnat to do it. it never goes anywhere and we just wind up disagreeing... but here goes... *deep breath in*

the mandalorian is amazing, but it feels nothing like the OT. its way more modern, the music is different, there are tons of special effects, cool choreography and there are even a few backflips (OH THE HORROR!! lol) and it doesnt have enough hype surrounding it to bring out the haters. just wait till the next movie comes out. itll get shat on, as always. i mean, just check out all the SW hate videos with millions of views on them. the people making them obviously see that is working for them, why would they stop? itd be foolish and theyd probably wind up losing money bc of it. they cant stop, they have to keep hating SW

and i disagree with the whole idea that SW is some deep meaningful narrative. its a good story and there are themes in it that mean a lot to me personally, but at the end of the day its just a space movie with amazing music and a nice story. a lot of people who see the original trilogy for the first time these days say they are just okay but definitely dont live up to the hype. some even say they just straight up suck.

and whats the matter? you dont like fun? i mean who the hell gets bent out of shape about great special effects, cool looking laser sword fights, backflips and what not? its an all ages popcorn flick that supposed to be fun. it isnt Shakespeare or some mega nuanced narrative with heavy, read between the lines, deep thinking required. its a space movie with an engaging story and its just supposed to be fun, which is exactly what the prequels and sequels are (ok maybe the politics was a bit much in the PT, but the story of how palpatine gained control of the republic couldnt be told without politics... and the ending to rise of skywalker was dumb, so fair enough on that...). but i dont understand the argument that we cant have those things in a movie about space wizards and laser swords :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy:

and no one is "actively trying" to fuck up the characters lol. there is no conspiracy, but you are sounding quite a lot like those guys on the youtube videos who are basically making a living off of shitting on SW. lol, dude, no one is trying to destroy your childhood. you guys get so weird with your defense of the OT and accusations of the people making the new movies. not sure where to begin to address that.

i think you just want something that no one can give: to be wowed and amazed like you were the first time you saw the OT. but that cant happen because there will never be another OT. we just have to move on and try to make new movies without holding them up to those kind of ridiculous standards.

*deep breath out* ok go nuts. i dont have the energy to go back and forth. we both made our points but i dont see it going anywhere. especially if youre int he camp of the people making the new movies purposefully trying to destroy the old characters, lol that is just whacko conspiracy babble
SW and other influential stories/art are important and it's ok for people to have strong opinions on how they are treated. No I don't believe that conspiracy shit - but poorly executed prequels and poorly planned sequels resulted in bad movies that drove SW in wrong directions in my opinion.

But I feel Dave Filoni and John Favreau can continue making the live action Star Wars I want, so I'd like to see more stories from them.
 

SegaShack

Member
Kathleen is still president of Lucasfilm for those wondering. I blame Bob Iger for everything that went wrong. It's her fault too but at the end of the day she reported to Bob and he let all this happen.
 
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oagboghi2

Member
Kathleen is still president of Lucasfilm for those wondering. I blame Bob Iger for everything that went wrong. It's her fault too but at the end of the day she reported to Bob and he let all this happen.
Bob has always had a hands off mentality when it came to the studio productions, and in his defense it has really worked well.

You don't hear of heavy interference into the Pixar films or MCU
 
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Rockondevil

Member
While I enjoyed most of his stuff (not Rebels) I feel his strengths lie outside the Jedi/Sith part of Star Wars.
I really just want more space wizards.
 

SegaShack

Member
Bob has always had a hands off mentality when it came to the studio productions, and in his defense it has really worked well.

You don't hear of heavy interference into the Pixar films or MCU
But being hands off as a CEO on such a big acquisition like this and letting things get so bad is his fault any way I look at it.

You can't be hands off with everything, management has to step in at some point.
 
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