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DCU Batman introduced in Creature Commandos

ManaByte

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Yea, this isn't Battison. That's not the Battison Gotham, this Batman has been established for decades. Dick is already Nightwing, Tim is already Robin with the Titans (and the two get their own movie with Dynamic Duo), presumably Jason is dead and now Red Hood. Gunn already confirmed they were doing the Bat-family. Battison raising Damian with three previous Robins doesn't fit.
 

ManaByte

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The design Gunn wasn't ready to commit to:
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jason10mm

Gold Member
Thanks for the spoiler btw.
To be fair the actual plot of Creature Commandos isn't really the draw, its the crazy characterizations and whatnot (IMHO at least). Knowing that Batman makes an appearance is tertiary to HOW he acts and what the other characters do with (or to) him.

That there is a DISTINCT possibility that Batman might get road head in the Batmobile from either a fish girl or a zombiette (or both) is where this show thrives :p
 

Kacho

Gold Member
Kinda hype...

Glad Gunn is ditching the origin story horseshit. These characters, both heroes and villains, don’t need to be reestablished in the world every time a new thing comes out. No one needs a Nightwing origin story that explains why he's in Bludhaven.
 

ManaByte

Member
Kinda hype...

Glad Gunn is ditching the origin story horseshit. These characters, both heroes and villains, don’t need to be reestablished in the world every time a new thing comes out. No one needs a Nightwing origin story that explains why he's in Bludhaven.

The bigger thing is he hinted at a World’s Finest movie.
 

Vyse

Gold Member
Kinda hype...

Glad Gunn is ditching the origin story horseshit. These characters, both heroes and villains, don’t need to be reestablished in the world every time a new thing comes out. No one needs a Nightwing origin story that explains why he's in Bludhaven.
Totally agree.
 

Doom85

Member
Kinda hype...

Glad Gunn is ditching the origin story horseshit. These characters, both heroes and villains, don’t need to be reestablished in the world every time a new thing comes out. No one needs a Nightwing origin story that explains why he's in Bludhaven.

The first Batman DCU movie will be the introduction of Damian Wayne, so a good chunk of the Batfamily will already be established (Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, though Jason could be pre-resurrection at this point depending on how they handle it, and Tim Drake for sure. Barbara will already either be Batgirl or maybe even already Oracle, and then they could in a later film or such introduce Cassandra Cain and/or Stephanie Brown as they are Batgirls not as well known to non-readers, which is ironic since most readers agree their Batgirl runs are much better than Barbara’s who they feel is more interesting as Oracle).

There will be a Teen Titans movie, which is very likely to have Nightwing as the lead character of the team since the 80’s run of New Teen Titans is the most renowned era of the team, plus the 2000’s animated series, so I figure it’s very likely he’ll be joined by Starfire, Beast Boy, Cyborg, and Raven. Kid Flash/Wally West and Donna Troy (the first Wonder Girl) are maybes, the former depending if they want to start with Barry as Flash or just skip ahead to Wally as Flash, and the latter on how well established the DCU Wonder Woman is by the time the first Teen Titans movie comes out as it would be bizarre to have Donna in it if Diana has not appeared yet or has appeared but not much by that point.
 

Doom85

Member
The Titans movie is using the lineup from the cartoon, it’ll be Tim as Robin in it.

Well See Season 6 GIF by The Office


There’s been no news on it other than the announcement. Also, Tim has entirely different friends in the Titans than Dick, as Tim is friends primarily with Conner Kent/Superboy, Cassie Sandsmark (Wonder Girl II) and Bart Allen/Impulse/Kid Flash II. I doubt they’d rewrite the character relationships so much to turn it into Tim being friends with the New Teen Titans era cast.
 

ManaByte

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Well See Season 6 GIF by The Office


There’s been no news on it other than the announcement. Also, Tim has entirely different friends in the Titans than Dick, as Tim is friends primarily with Conner Kent/Superboy, Cassie Sandsmark (Wonder Girl II) and Bart Allen/Impulse/Kid Flash II. I doubt they’d rewrite the character relationships so much to turn it into Tim being friends with the New Teen Titans era cast.
Dynamic Duo leads into Titans. The movie is Dick as Nightwing and Tim as Robin.
 

Doom85

Member
Dynamic Duo leads into Titans. The movie is Dick as Nightwing and Tim as Robin.

Pretty sure last I heard the DD film was Dick and Jason. Also, we can’t say for sure what leads into what, James Gunn confirmed scheduled movie dates will likely change as they are not starting production until they’re satisfied with a completed script, this is why the Supergirl movie was bumped up to released sooner as they got a script they had confidence in faster than they expected (probably helps they’re adapting one specific comic miniseries, and I believe Tom King, the miniseries author, helped with the script as well, I know he’s also a writer for the Lanterns show). So there’s no way to know for sure a definitive release timeline of the DCU save for the projects that have actually left pre-production and begun production.
 
Just watched the latest episode.

From the first two episodes I thought it was great and considered doing a thread but was unsure how it'd go down. I could care less about the normiecore DC characters, I've always liked the weirdos.
 

ManaByte

Member
Gunn is totally behind Matt Reeves’s Batman, but here BY SHEER COINCIDENCE in the same week The Batman Part 2 is delayed again, is your new DCU Batman!

Now all clap like mindless idiots and enjoy next product.
This debunks the people who claimed the Reeves movie would be cancelled and they’d make Battison the DCU Batman.
 

FunkMiller

Member
This debunks the people who claimed the Reeves movie would be cancelled and they’d make Battison the DCU Batman.

Great. Who gives a fuck? Gunn is clearly positioning his Batman publicly in the wake of the latest Reeves delay. This more and more points to backstage shenanigans to kill off Battinson, and get this version going.
 
Gunn is totally behind Matt Reeves’s Batman, but here BY SHEER COINCIDENCE in the same week The Batman Part 2 is delayed again, is your new DCU Batman!

Now all clap like mindless idiots and enjoy next product.
The Batman was trash anyway. The second I saw Lenny Kravitz's thot daughter do pure Hwoarang Tekken kicks on Robbie Patto it was a wrap.
 

FunkMiller

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The Batman was trash anyway. The second I saw Lenny Kravitz's thot daughter do pure Hwoarang Tekken kicks on Robbie Patto it was a wrap.

You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how dumb it is. I’m merely commenting on what feels like Warner Bros continuing desire to fuck its Batman film makers in pursuit of every last cent they can squeeze from their sub-Marvel plans.
 
You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how dumb it is. I’m merely commenting on what feels like Warner Bros continuing desire to fuck its Batman film makers in pursuit of every last cent they can squeeze from their sub-Marvel plans.
It's just realism slop we've seen before. It's not exactly a fresh and exciting prospect so I can understand DC not rushing for more.

(Maybe The Penguin is good. But The Batman was 😴😴😴😴)
 

FunkMiller

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It's just realism slop we've seen before. It's not exactly a fresh and exciting prospect so I can understand DC not rushing for more.

(Maybe The Penguin is good. But The Batman was 😴😴😴😴)

So, DC should abandon the more realistic, grounded type of Batman that was last met with universal critical and commercial success with Nolan… and instead go for a more fantastical Batman with decades of experience that is part of a shared universe - which ended up being a massive failure the last time they tried that with Snyder.

Same shit. Different assholes in charge 🤣
 
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Kacho

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It's just realism slop we've seen before. It's not exactly a fresh and exciting prospect so I can understand DC not rushing for more.

(Maybe The Penguin is good. But The Batman was 😴😴😴😴)
I watched it once and that was my feeling about it. Zzzquil movie. I’ll never watch it again. Couldn’t care less about a sequel.
 
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ManaByte

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Great. Who gives a fuck? Gunn is clearly positioning his Batman publicly in the wake of the latest Reeves delay. This more and more points to backstage shenanigans to kill off Battinson, and get this version going.
So they produced this episode in the last two days due to the Reeves delay?
 

SJRB

Gold Member
The Batman was trash anyway. The second I saw Lenny Kravitz's thot daughter do pure Hwoarang Tekken kicks on Robbie Patto it was a wrap.

Visually mindblowing but ultimately it commits a movie's biggest sin: it is quite boring. A slow, meandering, self-indulgent slog of a movie that thinks it's smart. "El rata alata", man fuck off.

The Batman's story is so dumb they have a "bad guy" who goes around killing extremely corrupt cops and politicians (demonstratable, like he has actual legit evidence that they're all ultra corrupt and have blood on their hands). Riddler did more for Gotham in three days than Batman and the GCPD did in years and somewhere when wrapping up the third act Reeves was like "wait a minute, how is he the bad guy in this story again?" so he slapped on a fourth act where the Riddler turns into a liveleak incel who incites twitch followers to go on a random mass shooting spree because ????
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
Pattinson is almost 40, he is EASILY old enough, when not in emo mode, to play a mature Batman with a teen son hanging out there from a mid 20's indiscretion. He is in his prime to play any kind of Batman other than Batman Beyond.

So whether or not Reeves gets a The Batman 2 out there, the ACTOR can easily transition to play the role in other films.
 

AgatonSax

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The Batman would have been great if Riddler was exposing Court of Owls instead of dumb ‘Gotham has a corruption problem’ shock horror.

I too am ready for a more dynamic Batman series, but Reeves should get another shot at a movie that isn’t crippled by Covid disruption.
 

FunkMiller

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The Batman would have been great if Riddler was exposing Court of Owls instead of dumb ‘Gotham has a corruption problem’ shock horror.

Reeves has already said that part two will delve further into the corruption in Gotham, so the Court Of Owls will most likely be the 'big bad' of the second film. It fits thematically.

If it actually gets made at this point.

I enjoyed Reeves's words on the red carpet insisting the film will be in front of the cameras this year. Let's hope that actually happens, and that wasn't just him firing shots at people at WB who want their dumb fucking DCU Batman so badly.
 
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Brakum

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Kinda hype...

Glad Gunn is ditching the origin story horseshit. These characters, both heroes and villains, don’t need to be reestablished in the world every time a new thing comes out. No one needs a Nightwing origin story that explains why he's in Bludhaven.
To be fair, unlike batman, hardly anyone knows nightelwings origin story or what bludhaven is.
 
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jason10mm

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The Batman reveal was underwhelming. Literally the shot from the tweet.

I gotta say that CC definitely is pushing the DC bar, even the more extreme animation side. I haven't watched ALL the 'mature' films or finished Harley Quinn, but I'm pretty sure numerous child deaths weren't in them, much less "on camera" deaths like we are seeing in this show. Don't recall quite as much shown during sex, maybe The Bride gets a bit of a pass since she is technically dead versus the very much alive Princess, but the other DC shows don't quite go this far either. Though I think there was nudity in Peacekeeper, right?

The violence/gore is up there as well. I wonder if they could extend this tone over to more mainstream DC heroes. The Justice League Dark, perhaps.
 

IntentionalPun

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Great. Who gives a fuck? Gunn is clearly positioning his Batman publicly in the wake of the latest Reeves delay. This more and more points to backstage shenanigans to kill off Battinson, and get this version going.
Reeves confirmed The Batman 2 is filming this year in an interview a couple days ago. I really just don’t think you are right on this at all.
 
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FunkMiller

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Reeves says they're filming this year. And they're doing a second season of Penguin and Penguin is in Batman II.





Yes. Because in Hollywood, what people say on red carpets is always super accurate, and nothing ever changes, or is different behind the scenes.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
Director of Brave and the Bold says Pattinson isn’t the DCU Batman.

I interpret that more as "the character of Batman in BatB is different than the character of Batman in the Reeves film". Doesn't mean the same human can't do both. I mean really, in the audition it's "so, Robert, why are you right for this part?"...."I'm Batman" is all he needs to say!

Now I doubt he will be 'cause I hope they go for a more physically imposing man, but until they announce casting I wouldn't completely discount Pattinson. Or Affleck for that matter if he could clean himself up.

But we all know it's gonna be Chris Pratt. James Gunnis very insular in his casting.
 

Trilobit

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I interpret that more as "the character of Batman in BatB is different than the character of Batman in the Reeves film". Doesn't mean the same human can't do both. I mean really, in the audition it's "so, Robert, why are you right for this part?"...."I'm Batman" is all he needs to say!

Now I doubt he will be 'cause I hope they go for a more physically imposing man, but until they announce casting I wouldn't completely discount Pattinson. Or Affleck for that matter if he could clean himself up.

But we all know it's gonna be Chris Pratt. James Gunnis very insular in his casting.

Hmm, I was a bit peeved by this idea, but he could fit in this more comicbooky universe Gunn is creating. It'd be a more easy-going Bruce Wayne like in TAS from the 90's. The one thing I can't get over with him as Batman is his voice that feels too squeaky, but maybe he can correct that beforehand. Otherwise, in a non-cannibalistic universe, Armie Hammer would easily have been my top choice.
 
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