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Dead Space Remake also coming to PS4 according to PlayStation Latinoamérica (Update: Confirmed a mistake)
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BigbyTheSheriff
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Jennings
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Oh, nice. This helps explain the poor frame rate in the gameplay videos. As long as that's justified by giving more players access to the game I'll give the design problem a pass. With any luck the audience will be big enough with all these available platforms to justify a full-on remake of Dead Space 2.
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But still $70 on next gen systems.
skit_data
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Could be a mistake but I can't say it would surprise me if it eventually does because I don't see anything that could be considered next gen outside of the volumetric fog and lighting and that could of course be dialed back a bit and it would essentially be a similar experience.
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Stuart360
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Thats the thing, when we get a new crossgen game people assume last gen will be the target platform, then the current gen version gets higher rez and framerate, which this will certainly have, but i feel as this gen goes on, current gen will be the targets with cross gen games, and last gen versions are scaled back versions.
Stuart360
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And a lot of people praised its graphics until it was confirmed to be cross gen later.
Its funny seeing how people treat a games graphics on here, then completely change their tune when later on they find out the game isnt current gen only.
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SlimySnake
its time...
Stuart360
lol agreed.They are going to be like "FUCKING AWESOME, now this is what next gen is for"
Finds out its last gen.
"well look at that low res brick in the corner, fucking disgusting"
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Stuart360
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If thats 'minimum' requirememnts then yeah thats more like a current gen game. This game may very well of been targeting current gen, but EA decided to also add last gen versions later on in development.
TheGodfather07
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I Expect cross gen by default unless specifically stated otherwise. This shit is never gonna end.
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MasterCornholio
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Sony is making this?
Stuart360
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They are going to be like "FUCKING AWESOME, now this is what next gen is for"
Finds out its last gen.
"well look at that low res brick in the corner, fucking disgusting"
GymWolf
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Dead space is not made by sony...
Save that for when they are gonna announce spidey 2 on ps4 after 6 months from the ps5 release.
Stuart360
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I'm not on console but to be honest, a major rez bump, 60+fps, and massively reduced load times is nothing to sniff at.
Current gen only games will come guys, but it will probably take the consoles sat on store shelves readily available for 6+ months before studios consider leaving last gen behind.
Kurotri
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I think it's because people believe that if game x had been truly current-gen, we could've gotten even better visuals, and that in turn sets them off. I personally don't care all that much since I still think these games look great, but publishers really need to stop announcing games as current-gen and then going "teehee" and revealing last-minute like that there's a version for the previous gen too. There's 0 reason not to be upfront about this from the get-go.
ArtHands
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They didn't say they were going to continue support PS4 in terms of only first party games. Could also be pushing other publishers to release on PS4 too
GymWolf
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You can't scale back some features that completely change how you play the game.
A zombie game that has 100.000 zombies on screen can't be made on ps4 where you oniy have 500 of them because the game mechanic would change accordingly.
Same for seamless level design that fully use the ssd or games based on destruction or physics.
You can only downscale the eyecandy.
To me, every game that is fully scalable on ps4 is never gonna use 110% of ps5 hardware in a smart, nextgen way like level design or stuff on screen at the same time, or advanced ia or physics etc.
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sankt-Antonio
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Called it in the recent gameplay trailer thread. Looked last gen to its core.
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GymWolf
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I sincerely doubt that ea is gonna decide if their game is nextgen only because sony push for that.
Maybe for some smaller publishers but not someone like ea.
Stuart360
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Of course you can scale them down, how do you think it works on PC?.
A game that is designed to push PS5/XSX to its limits and use every little piece of magic the console have, in a case like that it would be tough to do a last gen version, but i dont think this Dead Space remake is that game. Its a 360/PS3 game with updated graphics.
skit_data
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Yeah, I guess they'll possibly do last gen versions if it doesn't involve too much work. It'll probably be harder to do as the gen goes on but for now it's clearly possible (as seen with GT7 and RE4 remake).
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GymWolf
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On pc you scale down the eyecandy, not gameplay mechanics related to physics or seamless level design dude.
Maybe you can list 10 games that on pc have better level design or destruction that impacts the gameplay that are not present in the console version.
Spoiler, you can't.
If a game is made from the core on ps4 it is never gonna use the ssd for smarter things than just zero loading times.
Also pc have still minimum requires, you can't play a super modern game is an old ass pc.
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sankt-Antonio
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I still think full damage model could have been a reality in a PS5 only GT7.
Stuart360
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Exactly so why would it be any different with the consoles?.
balls of snow
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You know if they want to make games cross gen at least built next gen versions with ray tracing. At least we can tell where the power went.
Stuart360
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You can by the massive rez and framerate jumps.
skit_data
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Yeah, probably some other stuff too but personally I think GT7 was first developed as a PS4 game, switched over to PS5 only mid way through development and then announced as a PS5 only game. Then covid came and fucked up early adoption rate of the PS5 and they had to switch back to a multi-generation game, hence it arriving so late despite being announced and had gameplay in 2020 already.
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GymWolf
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Not sure about what are you trying to say.
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So these companies are just straight up lying and hiding info now? They literally said next gen only.
Guess that explains the garbage graphics.
Shame, game went from day 1 to day 0
Guess that explains the garbage graphics.
Shame, game went from day 1 to day 0
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BigbyTheSheriff
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That's why Plague Tale Requiem is current-gen only. They increased the number of rats on screen from 5k to 300k and improved their AI thanks to these consoles.
Graphics obviously got a huge upgrade too.
GymWolf
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The rats ia?? How so?
Aren't they just part of the puzzles? If they act with an ia it means that puzzles can have rats doing different things instead of jist being an obstacle?n
I'm not a puzzle expert but don't you need like some consistency with enviromental puzzles?
Not sure if i'm clear...
MasterCornholio
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So blame Sony for Cross gen?
crackajack
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not surprising since scaling back is easier than ever. Multiplatform anyway has to consider Series S, so going the extra mile for PS4 and Xbone for another downgrade isn't that hard probably. And actually CPU heavy stuff probably won't happen in a remake. Which is the only thing that would prevent a eyecandy downgrade on rather similar plattforms.
BigbyTheSheriff
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Your guess is as good as mine. I'm just going by some interviews.
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StealthGoblin
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When I saw the gameplay I thought it looked good, but it didn't look like a game built for the current gen only. I'm not surprised by this. 100m users are hard to leave behind.
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