Deadspin: (Notre Dame football player) Manti Te’o’s Dead Girlfriend is a hoax

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Because ESPN isn't interested in journalism or having journalistic standards. They are an entertainment company that sells packaged multimedia sports-based entertainment product, not journalism. This is the company line. Sometimes, they even admit that this is the company line.

ESPN, since they aren't bound by these journalistic standards, will play the "we'll tell your story the way you want it told in exchange for access" game on a national level. Used to be it was only the college town papers and radio outlets that would allow themselves to get bullied in such a manner by the big Universities' SIDs...

Or that ESPN, just like most of the other main steam news outlets that have been covering the story, didn't take the internet super paranoid everything is a conspiracy cover up angle as deadspin presented it.

Again and again myself and others have pointed ESPN has nothing to gain or lose by going in hard on Te'o. Some of their personalities have ripped into him. Some completely believe him and some don't believe a word he says. ESPN as a whole hasn't formed some official opinion that he is innocent. They are only going on what was offered through Te'o. Schaap himself said while he Te'o seemed sincere in his answers, its up to the viewers to decide if it makes sense.

ESPN has gladly been a part of the taking down of other famous sports personalities in the past, why in the world would they care to cover up for Te'o? What is to gain from it? They don't even have a contract with ND.

Some of the over the top conspiracy stuff needs to stop. Te'o might be completely behind it. A crazy lying psychopath but some of you assumed that position from day 1 and anything that comes out that doesn't support that stance is automatically part of some sports media cover up to protect ND and the kid himself.
 
No one is tiptoeing around it, it has been discussed quite a bit. It's just almost all the evidence released since the story broke has debunked this theory.

I guess he could be bi but I doubt that as well. His teammates would certainly know, yet so far we've simply heard that he was banging chicks and they were puzzled by his "loving girlfriend" shit
 
so we're supposed to assume that someone was actually watching him do this? Anyone else still skeptical? It's just shady it wasn't done on camera. Including the fact they were the exact same script?

Still strange to me...
 
curious why he would do the voice if they are both gay? was it a cover for other people on the off chance that they would hear the messages or something?

My personal theory is this:

Tuiasosopo is gay. He started this hoax because he can. He is a master at tricking people and has done this to others before. He can also manipulate his voice. He has issues. Major major suppression of his sexuality, failed at football, is part of the church (he is a priest I think?), and of course he has mental issues.

Te'o is just an idiot. Also very religious, naive, and desires to be seen as Jesus 2.0 Tebow style. He thought he was talking to a girl. He wanted it to be true. So even though there were so many times red alarms should have went off he decided to keep talking to this "girl". Most people would realize right away and figure it out but he wanted this to be so true + his religious upbringing that he went along with it.

He did supposedly ask Stanford players about her or if they knew her. He tried to meet up with her but she stood him up each time. Something Tuiasosopo did to another girl who thought she was talking to Lennay's sister.

This alone should have told Te'o something is wrong. But instead of being smart and realizing this, he went back and lied and embellished the truth by telling his family, friends, and the media that "YEAH I MET HER AND IT WAS LIKE HEAVEN!" And once the story picked up national attention, he kept lying to make it even juicer, realizing he is lying to make it sound better but never suspecting its a complete lie/hoax for which he will look like a complete ass.

Then some point in December the girl voice calls him to let him know it was a lie and some drug dealers are after him. At this point his fragile naive dumb brain is completely fried. He doesn't know what to do. He might have fallen in love and she was dead. Now she is alive? That would fuck with anyone's head. He either doesn't buy it or tells himself it can't be true. He knows he lied to the media and was lied to himself. He thinks somehow he can bury it or keep this dead girl coming back to life to himself. Continues to lie and tell the story. Its gotten him to much attention and fame to give up on it. How cheaters don't apologize until caught. He keeps it up.

Deadspin reveals all. Now the jig is up and further he finds out that not only was the girl never in trouble, dying, or running from drug dealers, she never existed. Furthermore it was a dude pretending to be a girl.

Only things that don't add up are why he didn't go see her, though I can see how each time he did try to meet up with her she stood him up. Still doesn't make sense if its the love of your life. The other lies to his parents about meeting her I can understand, to cover his own embarrassment. That plus when they did try to Skype, how come he couldn't see her? He claims she was in some black box. Makes no sense.

To me that is the most credible theory so far. The female voicmails lead me to believe it. If they were both gay and in on it from the start, he would be even dumber than I imagine (but in a cunning way), and why would they fake female voices when they had no intention of ever revealing those voicemails as a part of the initial PR stunt? And if they were just two gay guys caught up in this media storm by accident, why the female voice to begin with?

Not married to any theory and if proof comes out that yeah he was all behind it, wouldn't shock me but right now I think he was tricked to some degree.
 

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I thought he had some groupies in ND? Which is why many called on BS on the story.

Teammates of his said that they saw him hook up with other girls at parties during the season, and there is a picture floating around from December with him and another girl hanging out with Santa Claus.
 
No one is tiptoeing around it, it has been discussed quite a bit. It's just almost all the evidence released since the story broke has debunked this theory.

Not by the major media outlets reporting it.

Shy of Katie Couric flat out asking him, nobody in the MSM is entertaining it.

I thought he had some groupies in ND? Which is why many called on BS on the story.

Don't see how that proves he's not gay. Also, he wouldn't be the first closeted homosexual to surround himself with women as a smokescreen.
 
Don't see how that proves he's not gay. Also, he wouldn't be the first closeted homosexual to surround himself with women as a smokescreen.

I don't know much of anything about being in the closet, but it seems obvious to me that if you were going to make up a girlfriend, you wouldn't come up with some fantastical tale about her being hit by a car and then coming down with cancer. That's the kind of thing that friends, family, and the media would want to check up on and further investigate (though hilariously enough, they did not). Instead you'd just say that she is a nice chick who lives out-of-state and leave it at that.

At this point I assume that T'eo actually bought into the hoax, but greatly exaggerated the depth and extent of his relationship for the press. Chances are he just viewed her as some chick he was stringing along, in hopes of scoring a hook up at some indeterminate time in the future. When she died and he got all kinds of sympathy and good press over it, and he just kept the story going. He's called her his "best friend" and "the love of my life"....but I don't see how anyone who sincerely believes that could go without visiting her in the hospital.
 
If Manti were gay and were "in on it" with RT, why would they create the elaborate cancer/death story that is only going to bring more attention and questions? Why would he be spending hours and hours on the phone with his fake GF?
 
If Manti were gay and were "in on it" with RT, why would they create the elaborate cancer/death story that is only going to bring more attention and questions? Why would he be spending hours and hours on the phone with his fake GF?
They didn't realize it was going to turn into the story that it did. Of course, ESPN and the rest of the national media pick it up, and turn it into the story that it was, and it just snowballs from there.

That's my guess anyway.
 
They didn't realize it was going to turn into the story that it did. Of course, ESPN and the rest of the national media pick it up, and turn it into the story that it was, and it just snowballs from there.

That's my guess anyway.

if they didn't think it would turn into a big story why would they go to the trouble of having hundreds of hours of phone conversations just to "sell" a fake story that they thought nobody would dig into or investigate?
 
I've always doubted the voicemails. It just sounds so canned and forced. It's not even the language, but how fast they were able to get them out to the media. It's as if they had RT do a few to make MT credible a few days after the Deadspin report.

I'm pretty sure the hundreds of hours on the phone never happened and Manti Teo and his legal team are creating this shit on the fly.

It sounds so much like the kid who lied all of the time in school. Once classmates caught on, the kid would make up lies to cover lies, each one more far-fetched or less thought out than the last.
 
If Manti were gay and were "in on it" with RT, why would they create the elaborate cancer/death story that is only going to bring more attention and questions? Why would he be spending hours and hours on the phone with his fake GF?

How do we know how many hours of phone calls there are? And couldn't they just be talking to each other about normal lovers stuff? Long distance relationships = huge phone bill.

As to why: for sympathy, attention, a Heisman push, or because he's a pathological liar.
 
How do we know how many hours of phone calls there are? And couldn't they just be talking to each other about normal lovers stuff? Long distance relationships = huge phone bill.

As to why: for sympathy, attention, a Heisman push, or because he's a pathological liar.

Manti produced phone records, unless ESPN lied about that to help him. If he thought this would never "Blow up" why would he go to that trouble?

I guess there is the idea that he and RT were lovers, but why wouldn't RT have come out about that?
 
Manti produced phone records, unless ESPN lied about that to help him. If he thought this would never "Blow up" why would he go to that trouble?

I guess there is the idea that he and RT were lovers, but why wouldn't RT have come out about that?

We know that Manti was talking to Ronaiah the whole time. Who's to say what they were talking about? Also, before he admitted it his family blamed it on his cousin Tino. Why do that if you're gonna admit it anyway? Why are they still lying? What is Manti trying to cover up? Neither guy has gone after the other in interviews. It's also very convenient that "Lennay" died right as Manti is about to enter the draft.

I think Manti and Ronaiah created "Lennay" to cover their homosexuality and fool their parents. Manti starts bragging about it because he figures no one will check and it makes him look good. College career started winding down, they agreed to "kill off" Lennay in an accident, potentially closing any loopholes. Naturally, people start asking questions.
 
I think Manti and Ronaiah created "Lennay" to cover their homosexuality and fool their parents. Manti starts bragging about it because he figures no one will check and it makes him look good. College career started winding down, they agreed to "kill off" Lennay in an accident, potentially closing any loopholes. Naturally, people start asking questions.

Manti "asked around" to his friends and people he knew @ Stanford about Lennay as far back as 2010. It's already been established that "Lennay" had been bothering other people long before the Manti thing. Nothing Manti has done up to this point makes him seem bright enough to have gone through the trouble of doing that before the media blowup.

If Manti is gay, it probably didn't go down how you described.
 
So Forbes put out a new edition of those polls they do to see how popular or unpopular certain athletes are.

Te'o was tied with Lance Armstrong as the least popular athlete in America. Only 15% of those that knew them approved.

:lol
 
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