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[cormack12]

Nothing monumental really released in 2024.

5. Sad year due to: 4 games on other platforms, closing Tangoworks, please clap Indiana Jones reveal, this is an xbox campaign. Xbox will be a brand of services instead of a box below your TV. Hopes in 2025, that Spencer reveals poor hardware sales were a smokescreen as he reveals the Xbox 360 ultra and puts PS engineers to shame.

4. Concord still the biggest failure/thing of 2024. It's so uninteresting that it's only kept alive in discussion to reiterate the failure. No game this big has failed this large and thoroughly and gamers are already wanting to forget and move past it. Hopes for 2025? That fairgame$ comes out in 2026

3. Had to cover a lot of GaaS announcements. Millions of players like them. GaaS isn't even a bad word any more. Hopes in 2025, GaaS has a new collective name like anime girl collector or anime money game. Men_in_Boxes

2. Remake was a massive hit. Was the beneficiary of a covid bump. Rebirth was the most bleeding, dorky, sincere game he ever played. Not met with universal praise, people preferred Metaphor. Hopes for 2025, the Steam release generate a new appreciative fanbase. Bye bye Metaphor.

1. Last thing expected from Nintendo was to become the least interesting publisher. Their three holiday games are all probably the worst they've ever put out (EoW, Mario: Brotherhood, Mario Jamboree). Hopes for 2025, that in 12 months he is saying Nintendo was too weird. Anything but bored.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Rebirth was the most bleeding, dorky, sincere game he ever played. Not met with universal praise, people preferred Metaphor.

 

[SJRB]

What do you mean "Sony got away with it" bro, they lost hundreds of millions and they closed the studio causing dozens, if not hundreds of people to lose their jobs. Sony got ridiculed for months and it became the de-facto example of being out of touch with what people want.

It was a calamity in every sense of the word.

 

[Certinty]

I’m really confused about Rebirth because it reviewed better than the first one and the initial reception was amazing, what happened?

 

[Trilobit]

Still the best description of Nintendo:

 

[Wandering Leopard]

Based on some of those points, I don't want to give this person a click.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

I’m really confused about Rebirth because it reviewed better than the first one and the initial reception was amazing, what happened?

It’s just the second entry into a pretty entrenched series

It seems a little more niche. I don’t understand the claims that it flopped though, it still sold millions on one platform and likely outsold metaphor on all platforms and reviewed similarly

 

[Punished Miku]

I really enjoy Bosman but he's made a point to be much more of a shameless PS fanboy than I ever imagined over the last year. Huber as well. I honestly didn't have any idea before that.

 

[Trilobit]

Based on some of those points, I don't want to give this person a click.

Give him a click. He's one of the best gaming tubers out there. I wish I could give him a million clicks.

 

[adamsapple]

I’m really confused about Rebirth because it reviewed better than the first one and the initial reception was amazing, what happened?

People eventually played past the first 10 hour mark and realized it's the same thing pasted across 6, 7 large zones with kinda bad storytelling.

What do you mean "Sony got away with it" bro, they lost hundreds of millions and they closed the studio causing dozens, if not hundreds of people to lose their jobs. Sony got ridiculed for months and it became the de-facto example of being out of touch with what people want.

It was a calamity in every sense of the word.

Yeah, that line (haven't seen the video) seems pretty dumb.

It made them pivot their entire pipeline after committing to Concord as the 'future of playstation' or some such shit, it cost them nearly half a billion and has been a massive stain since launch and quick execution.

People aren't forgetting that shit anytime soon.

 

[Diva]

I agree about Rebirth with him completely, still don't understand why it isn't a huge hit?
What gamers nowadays even want from games, guess the answer is in his gacha bit...

 

[March Climber]

What do you mean "Sony got away with it" bro, they lost hundreds of millions and they closed the studio causing dozens, if not hundreds of people to lose their jobs. Sony got ridiculed for months and it became the de-facto example of being out of touch with what people want.

It was a calamity in every sense of the word.

I watched the video. His 'Sony got away with it' part is more about the fact that internet and gaming news cycles continuously move at such a breakneck speed that people stopped caring about Concord in the amount of time it took for Team Asobi to go up on stage and accept their GoTY award.

I think GAF will tug on the Concord line a bit longer than other sites, however most of the internet has moved on to discussing other things.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

People eventually played past the first 10 hour mark and realized it's the same thing pasted across 6, 7 large zones with kinda bad storytelling.

Like metaphor? Guess that’s why rebirth sold more huh

 

[clarky]

He thinks this is harsh?

 

[Edmund]

I really enjoy Bosman but he's made a point to be much more of a shameless PS fanboy than I ever imagined over the last year. Huber as well. I honestly didn't have any idea before that.

Stick to Destin Legarie and Jez Corden if you're butt hurt over Bosman. Lol.

You gotta be fucking kidding if you think Bosman is a shameless fanboy. Go look in the mirror and maybe you'll see who is the shameless fanboy.

Fucking clown.

 

[bitbydeath]

Did he not know that Concord was a GaaS game?

4 & 3 cancel each other out.

 

[The artful mincer]

I’m really confused about Rebirth because it reviewed better than the first one and the initial reception was amazing, what happened?

All things considered it didn't sell that well not that it bombed or anything.

Saying that it sold better than metaphor

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Still the best description of Nintendo:

Speaking of elephants, it feels like we're stlll tiptoeing around the biggest elephant in the room: games with hundred million dollar budgets bombing left and right because the consumer has rejected preachy, safe, inclusive games in favor of sincere, daring, and distinctive ones.

Not that I dislike Kyle or anything, I know he has to play the game to get that bread, but 2024 is just obvious about what is rotting the industry.

 

[LectureMaster]

I watched the video. His 'Sony got away with it' part is more about the fact that internet and gaming news cycles continuously move at such a breakneck speed that people stopped caring about Concord in the amount of time it took for Team Asobi to go up on stage and accept their GoTY award.

I think GAF will tug on the Concord line a bit longer than other sites, however most of the internet has moved on to discussing other things.

I'll do my best to let Concord be remembered on GAF.

 

[Sebastian1295]

What he's saying dosen't add up at all. It really feels like he's just spewing alot of misinformation ala he's just not knowledgeable enough about what he's saying. This honestly really feels like a grifting twitter user that decided to make a rage bait/grifting video. For example saying nintendo were boring without considering that they're saving reveals for the switch 2 is just plain dumb sorry. And saying ff7 rebirth was unpopular feels baseless as well.

 

[R3TRO]

I didn’t realize people didn’t like Rebirth.

 

[The Cockatrice]

I don't think Metaphor sold as much as he thinks it did. It has like 15k reviews on steam which is pretty fucking low besides the fact that Rebirth has not released on Steam yet. Ofc in this scenario Metaphor is more popular lmao.

 

[Punished Miku]

What he's saying dosen't add up at all. It really feels like he's just spewing alot of misinformation ala he's just not knowledgeable enough about what he's saying. This honestly really feels like a grifting twitter user that decided to make a rage bait/grifting video.

He's a hardcore grifter but he's at least a funny grifter, when he's not up Geoff's asshole shilling Squid Game at least.

 

[Sethbacca]

I really feel like I'd like the Atlus style RPGs more if they weren't these massive 100 hour time sinks. I'll stick to FF.

 

[March Climber]

For example saying nintendo were boring without considering that they're saving reveals for the switch 2 is just plain dumb sorry.

It's not dumb at all. Everyone knows what a death rattle looks like of a console's last couple of years, and it shows in announcements and releases. Nintendo has stretched out the Switch's console lifecycle to it's absolute maximum, and now it's 2024 holiday lineup feels like leftovers while everyone is participating in a collective breath-hold for the Switch 2.

The damn thing should have released this fall. It had a clear and open runway to make a landing due to a light fall release schedule.

The only dumb thing here would be suddenly learning that the real reason they pushed back the Switch 2 release is simply because they wanted to dethrone the PS2 out of spite.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Hey...if the switches 8th year on the eve of its successor is this bad then I think its totally fine for them to deliver a "safe" q4.

Me and my family are loving mario jamboree. It's amazing so thanks nintendo!

 

[Icymanipulator]

I will continue to convert numbers into Concords until a larger and higher profile flop happens.
The meme must live so the mistake doesn’t happen again.

 

[bender]

It's not dumb at all. Everyone knows what a death rattle looks like of a console's last couple of years, and it shows in announcements and releases. Nintendo has stretched out the Switch's console lifecycle to it's absolute maximum, and now it's 2024 holiday lineup feels like leftovers while everyone is participating in a collective breath-hold for the Switch 2.

The only dumb thing here would be suddenly learning that the real reason they pushed back the Switch 2 release is simply because they wanted to dethrone the PS2 out of spite.

It's a pretty decent death rattle.

 

[amigastar]

Give him a click. He's one of the best gaming tubers out there. I wish I could give him a million clicks.

Yes, and he has a very good sense of humor, also.

 

[March Climber]

It's a pretty decent death rattle.

Also are we really counting Prime 4? Are you 100% certain that it won't be a crossgen game?

 

[touchfuzzy]

Based on some of those points, I don't want to give this person a click.

His whole schtick is to be very tongue-in-cheek / sarcastic while delivering an underlying truth, and he's great at it.

 

[bender]

Also are we really counting Prime 4? Are you 100% certain that it won't be a crossgen game?

Listed as a Switch game at the moment. It will be interesting to see how Nintendo handles cross generation and what, if any, improvements are made for BC titles. Metroid certainly needs the buying power of the Switch userbase. As far as the titles are concerned, that's a solid lineup with where I'd consider three of those titles really good at worst and then the rest being ok-to-good.

 

[Arsic]

Give him a click. He's one of the best gaming tubers out there. I wish I could give him a million clicks.

 

[March Climber]

Listed as a Switch game at the moment. It will be interesting to see how Nintendo handles cross generation and what, if any, improvements are made for BC titles. Metroid certainly needs the buying power of the Switch userbase.

Agreed that Metroid needs to be a prominent title for the Switch 2.

As far as the titles are concerned, that's a solid lineup with where I'd consider three of those titles really good at worst and then the rest being ok-to-good.

I consider it solid only for an individual who might not have played the original games a lot of those HD-editions are based from. More could be argued about the shaky quality of a couple of games there, but I don't care enough to get into a back and forth about it. I will say that one big benefit of not having a split userbase anymore (Like the Wii and DS) is that those devs who would normally make games for the DS/3DS are instead doing their best to hold things up in Switch's final years.

 

[bender]

Agreed that Metroid needs to be a prominent title for the Switch 2.

I consider it solid only for an individual who might not have played the original games a lot of those HD-editions are based from. More could be argued about the shaky quality of a couple of games there, but I don't care enough to get into a back and forth about it. I will say that one big benefit of not having a split userbase anymore (Like the Wii and DS) is that those devs who would normally make games for the DS/3DS are instead doing their best to hold things up in Switch's final years.

The remakes only make up one (TTYD) of the three I was referencing with Zelda and Mario Party (not my cup of tea, but people love this entry). That's a ton of first party support for the home stretch of a seven year lifecycle. A lot of my personal favorite games could also be played on the device (Shiren, Balatro, DQ3 2D-HD, Unicorn Overlord, DoDonPachi SaiDaiOuJou) so it certainly hasn't been lacking games to play.

 

[kevboard]

This honestly really feels like a grifting l

He's a hardcore grifter

the word grifter has officially lost its meaning entirely boys... pack it in.

 

[bundylove]

I really enjoy Bosman but he's made a point to be much more of a shameless PS fanboy than I ever imagined over the last year. Huber as well. I honestly didn't have any idea before that.

We all know you are in live with Isla

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

I watched the video. His 'Sony got away with it' part is more about the fact that internet and gaming news cycles continuously move at such a breakneck speed that people stopped caring about Concord in the amount of time it took for Team Asobi to go up on stage and accept their GoTY award.

I think GAF will tug on the Concord line a bit longer than other sites, however most of the internet has moved on to discussing other things.

I just disagree though.

Concord has become the immortalized archetypical example of the "go woke, go broke" mantra that gamers have popularized in the face of the radical left activist invasion of many western studios.

It will forever be referenced as an example of how being out of touch with what your consumers want can and will lead to catastrophic failure.

Going into 2025, there will be endless instances of upcoming releases being compared to Concord.

It's already happening here on Gaf with Intergalactic (even if I think the comparisons are absurd and unwarranted).

 

[Synless]

I’m really confused about Rebirth because it reviewed better than the first one and the initial reception was amazing, what happened?

People fucking suck is what happened.

Game was top level and easily my game of the year.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

#3. I PREDICTED THIS

We're approaching a point of GAAS dominance where the old guard can no longer deny it's brilliance. I have won! I have finally truly won!!

 

[March Climber]

I just disagree though.

Concord has become the immortalized archetypical example of the "go woke, go broke" mantra that gamers have popularized in the face of the radical left activist invasion of many western studios.

It will forever be referenced as an example of how being out of touch with what your consumers want can and will lead to catastrophic failure.

Going into 2025, there will be endless instances of upcoming releases being compared to Concord.

It's already happening here on Gaf with Intergalactic (even if I think the comparisons are absurd and unwarranted).

Regardless of politics, everything surrounding Concord's failure was a lightning in a bottle moment. Trying to continually recreate it by using other games won't have the same effect.

I think it's very important to see what the rest of the internet is discussing besides GAF.

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

Regardless of politics, everything surrounding Concord's failure was a lightning in a bottle moment. Trying to continually recreate it by using other games won't have the same effect.

I honestly don't think it was.

It's not the only major AAA failure of 2024.

Outlaws, Veilguard and Suicide Squad all bombed hard. Clearly not all as catastrophically as Concord; unlike Concord, those games had existing IP clout that would have suckered a few more blind buyers than Concord, while also not being as offensively bad games as Concord was (they were just mediocre or not what the core audience wanted).

I think it's very important to see what the rest of the internet is discussing besides GAF.

What difference does that make in the reasons games fail?

 

[Sebastian1295]

It's not dumb at all. Everyone knows what a death rattle looks like of a console's last couple of years, and it shows in announcements and releases. Nintendo has stretched out the Switch's console lifecycle to it's absolute maximum, and now it's 2024 holiday lineup feels like leftovers while everyone is participating in a collective breath-hold for the Switch 2.

The damn thing should have released this fall. It had a clear and open runway to make a landing due to a light fall release schedule.

The only dumb thing here would be suddenly learning that the real reason they pushed back the Switch 2 release is simply because they wanted to dethrone the PS2 out of spite.

I do agree with u that the switch 2 should've been released by now. The switch has went wayyyyyy past it's expiration date considering the garbage tech inside of it.

 

[Jesb]

How exactly did Sony get away with it by losing a shit ton of money and tarnishing their reputation.

 

[March Climber]

Outlaws, Veilguard and Suicide Squad

Clearly not all as catastrophically as Concord;

Exactly. And the above titles all have chances to pick up sales later on in their lifetime. Concord was removed from stores. That is a monumental difference.

What difference does that make in the reasons games fail?

It makes a difference in my point on my very first post that you quoted:

internet and gaming news cycles continuously move at such a breakneck speed that people stopped caring about Concord in the amount of time it took for Team Asobi to go up on stage and accept their GoTY award.

This website's community has it's own small bubble whether people decide to acknowledge it or not, that's why it's important to see where conversations are moving elsewhere.

 

[Pasta la Vista]

Ahh the clown without his circus.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

#3. I PREDICTED THIS

We're approaching a point of GAAS dominance where the old guard can no longer deny it's brilliance. I have won! I have finally truly won!!

You predict a lot of shit that turns out wrong. Also, people loving service games isn’t a prediction, it was common sense, and you were years late to the party either way.

 

[ADiTAR]

Nintendo did put out the weirdest product of the year, an alarm clock.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

You predict a lot of shit that turns out wrong.

Name five times I got something wrong. You can’t because my hit rate is unparalleled.

Also, people loving service games isn’t a prediction, it was common sense, and you were years late to the party either way.

I predicted the insurmountable rise of Live Service about a month after Fortnite launched. To proclaim the vision in a sea of “Fortnite is a fad” drones makes me the Jordan of video games. My greatness can no longer be denied. Kyle Bossman is just seven years late to the party.

 

[adamsapple]

#3. I PREDICTED THIS

We're approaching a point of GAAS dominance where the old guard can no longer deny it's brilliance. I have won! I have finally truly won!!

You've already reached peak Gaas output, my man.