-
Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!
Developer of Blue Dragon is Mistwalker + Artoon
- Thread starter MrSingh
- Start date
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
"Blinx 1 and 2, Yoshi Gravitational... they just pretty much sucked ass."
Yoshi is average
Blinx 1 and 2 pretty much suck AS GAMES
but none are BADLY WRITTEN
Artoon suck at games design and art BUT THEY AREN'T DOING EITHER FOR THIS GAME.
*mashes head against the wall*
Yoshi is average
Blinx 1 and 2 pretty much suck AS GAMES
but none are BADLY WRITTEN
Artoon suck at games design and art BUT THEY AREN'T DOING EITHER FOR THIS GAME.
*mashes head against the wall*
Mike Works
Member
hahahahaDCharlie said:
Yeah, if it wasn't for Blinx's engaging storyline, I would've stopped playing the game 5 minutes in, but damn them to hell, I needed to know the origin of those lucky charm powerups!
CURSE YOU ARTOON SCRIBE, YOUR MASTERFUL ARTISTRY WITH THOSE ELECTRONIC CALIGRAPHIC DEVICES MIRRORS ONLY OUR LORD AND SAVIOR IN TERMS OF SPIRITUAL REDEMPTION
DCharlie said:
Solid in what way? Technically? Aesthetically? I'm just trying to see where you're going with this. In any event, technically it was decent. "solid", I guess is a fine word. If you're suggesting that Artoon had nothing to do with the gameplay, story, and everything else that is so integral to the title, then I'll take a step back and say that it's only slightly less worse news now.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
let me try one last time in GAF BLACK AND WHITE...
BLinx :
Story : Shit
Gameplay : Shit
Art : Shit
Character design : Shit
Level design : Shit
Game execution : Good
As long as the game is well designed, and they don't get a chance to f*ck with the art, then most software houses should be able to not fuck things up no matter how incompetent they are.
To reiterate - whilst Blinx 1 + 2 are indeed SHITE games, neither of them on a technical level are astonishingly bad. Both are actually pretty competent. So , with the downsides and fail areas taken away from Artoon, i don't see why we are already condeming the game ?
BLinx :
Story : Shit
Gameplay : Shit
Art : Shit
Character design : Shit
Level design : Shit
Game execution : Good
As long as the game is well designed, and they don't get a chance to f*ck with the art, then most software houses should be able to not fuck things up no matter how incompetent they are.
To reiterate - whilst Blinx 1 + 2 are indeed SHITE games, neither of them on a technical level are astonishingly bad. Both are actually pretty competent. So , with the downsides and fail areas taken away from Artoon, i don't see why we are already condeming the game ?
DCharlie said:
you're going to have to go a lot more black and white than that
how can the "game execution" be "good" if EVERY SINGLE THING IN IT is shit? I mean, this is what i'm trying to understand now. What did Artoon do, create an engine that some fucked up asshats could create a few shitty levels in to the horrible gameplay of Blinx? I'm just confused. So in Black and White, what aspects of blinx did Artoon have a direct involvement in and can you provide a source to back this up.
Mike Works
Member
:lol Sorry, I completely misunderstood you there.DCharlie said:
Though I disagree with Blinx being well designed, I think it was an awesome concept and they utterly fucked up on it. I'm sure others hold the same opinion.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
HAVE YOU PLAYED BLINX?? the game engine is pretty good. Infact, as shit as i keep saying the game is, i don't think it's half as bad as people make out.
They created a great engine, but had shite art and shite ideas as to what makes a good game. The basis was there, but in terms of putting it into a complete package, they fucked up BIG TIME - which was entirely Artoons fault.
They were involved in ALL aspects of Blinx - which was entirely the problem!!!
This time they aren't, which should be beneficial to the project.
I assumed as such
- even i wouldn't be retarded enough to call Blinx a great story....... or would i ?!
Amir0x, let's put it another way.
UGA made Rez.
They also made Astroboy for the PS2.
Does that mean UGA is shit?
While producers, directors and so on are often given a hard time for having little or nothing to do with the game, Sakaguchi and Mizuguchi have made names for themselves because they are damned good at their jobs. You shouldn't be too worried about the development team working under them - who was directing Blinx and Pinobee anyway?
UGA made Rez.
They also made Astroboy for the PS2.
Does that mean UGA is shit?
While producers, directors and so on are often given a hard time for having little or nothing to do with the game, Sakaguchi and Mizuguchi have made names for themselves because they are damned good at their jobs. You shouldn't be too worried about the development team working under them - who was directing Blinx and Pinobee anyway?
MassiveAttack
Banned
I know I'll get crucified for this, but I didn't think Blinx was that damn bad :lol. Played and finished it on a rental and didn't regret it. Wasn't a great game but not "OMFG worst evar!!!1" either. I haven't played any of Artoon's other games, but Blinx isn't going to make me write off this new RPG (yet).
Blue Dragon
The light of the heart creates the shadow...
Five people who possess the power of strange shadows. The shadow moves in sync with the user, enhances their powers and creates magical powers. The hero is such a person, a boy who will never give up, Shuu. To stop the disaster that threatens when, he will stand together with his childhood friends Jiro and Crook to face it. Their weapon is "Shadow". Using various "Shadow Change" effects such as Sword, Assasin and Power Magic, they can unleash various different skills that enhance their own attack abilities. The man who stands before them as an enemy is Nene, an ancient one who wields magic that is long extinct. In this star overflowing with ancient ruins, they will meet many different people and with their "Shadows" they will embark on their adventure.
Producer: Hironobu Sakaguchi
Composer: Nobuo Uematsu
Character designer: Akira Toriyama
The light of the heart creates the shadow...
Five people who possess the power of strange shadows. The shadow moves in sync with the user, enhances their powers and creates magical powers. The hero is such a person, a boy who will never give up, Shuu. To stop the disaster that threatens when, he will stand together with his childhood friends Jiro and Crook to face it. Their weapon is "Shadow". Using various "Shadow Change" effects such as Sword, Assasin and Power Magic, they can unleash various different skills that enhance their own attack abilities. The man who stands before them as an enemy is Nene, an ancient one who wields magic that is long extinct. In this star overflowing with ancient ruins, they will meet many different people and with their "Shadows" they will embark on their adventure.
Producer: Hironobu Sakaguchi
Composer: Nobuo Uematsu
Character designer: Akira Toriyama
MightyHedgehog
Member
Whoa, that's actually reminded me of Monsters Inc. for a moment there.
CosmicGroinPull
Member
duckroll said:
The detail is pretty damn good up close, and it seems they might have enough power to actually pull this off without celshading at all.
hey that's like the original Xbox demo isn't it? how cute...
.Makes sense... Artoon was said to have been working on an Xbox/Xenon ARPG for about a year now. And yeah Artoon has a fairly crap track record but select staff have a fantastic pedigree (Sonic, NiGHTS, Panzer Dragoon). I've still got hope they'll do something great.
Oh and Dark Cloud 1 is videogame scat. Easily my biggest dissapointment since Dark Savior and easily the worst ARPG I've played this generation. And I've played EGG. :/
Oh and Dark Cloud 1 is videogame scat. Easily my biggest dissapointment since Dark Savior and easily the worst ARPG I've played this generation. And I've played EGG. :/
Bizarro Sun Yat-sen
Banned
According to an earlier interview with Sakaguchi, MW is designing the battle/skill systems and core dungeons and towns, etc., but some of the sidequests and things are being left to the developers.