Digg.com Relaunching with Reddit Co-Founder and Kevin Rose

IF it becomes a better aggregator I will go to it. Reddit is terrible to use. Hopefully the old TECH TV guy can capture lightning again.

I bet he regrets not selling for millions.
 
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They need to get rid of the up/down vote stuff if they want me to use it. Enough with the echo chamber/bot manipulation stuff. Reddit is near unusable even in the small subs now due to politics just taking over everything whether you want it to or not.
 
lifa-cobex said:
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Digg was the breading ground for Reddit before Reddit.
It was fine as a great source for articles at first.
Then the obnoxious users came and that was the beginning of it's downfall.
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Don't forget that users like Mrbabyman ruined the entire site





Hell, he was so viral that old spice did this ad
 
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lifa-cobex said:
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Digg was the breading ground for Reddit before Reddit.
It was fine as a great source for articles at first.
Then the obnoxious users came and that was the beginning of it's downfall.
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Nah it was the reboot that killed it.
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Pejo said:
They need to get rid of the up/down vote stuff if they want me to use it. Enough with the echo chamber/bot manipulation stuff. Reddit is near unusable even in the small subs now due to politics just taking over everything whether you want it to or not.
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It's in absolutely every subreddit right now.
 
In setting up a new browser I had to go to Reddit's default homepage to log in. Saw one post that mentioned Matt Lucas, clicked it, and immediately regretted it when I saw the ridiculous top comments about how Matt Lucas is a bad person and how white men get away with things. Reddit has reached peak cesspool and if I didn't it's only the extensions and ways to filter out the worst of it that allow me to put up with the site long enough to find anything worth seeing.
 
Pejo said:
They need to get rid of the up/down vote stuff if they want me to use it. Enough with the echo chamber/bot manipulation stuff. Reddit is near unusable even in the small subs now due to politics just taking over everything whether you want it to or not.
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Agreed, upvotes only.
 
Who was that big user who posted a lot of articles....MrBabyMan?

Digg was awesome before they did that reboot. Was part of the exodus to Reddit.
 
I really hope it can float interesting content, avoid bias and give a place for a few fun comments. Control their mods and not have it turn into what Reddit has become, an echo chamber.
 
He had a good vodcast with Alex Albrecht (who himself used to do the Totally Rad Show with Jeff Cannata and Jeff Trachtenburg).

When Tech bros were cool rather than (ostensibly) evil!
 
Man. I got excited for a moment, thinking this was some Silicon Valley techbros digging themselves into a hole and disappearing forever.
 
Digg used to be the first site I visited on mornings so I'm curious about how this will go. Seeing Kevin Rose looking so old now makes me feel old af.
 
Pejo said:
They need to get rid of the up/down vote stuff if they want me to use it. Enough with the echo chamber/bot manipulation stuff. Reddit is near unusable even in the small subs now due to politics just taking over everything whether you want it to or not.
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what would you want instead of votes?
 
Sophist said:
These community websites are based on content curation by the community for the community. The voting system is the best for that.
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I feel like we're talking in circles. The voting system allows/encourages echo chamber behavior, botted narratives, hiding dissenting opinions, etc. It's a terrible system from the get go, which is the point of my original post in this thread.

Just a few days ago I went to the "/r/interestingasfuck" subreddit, which is supposed to be about things that are interesting as fuck. Some highlights I've seen there are scientific breakthroughs, pictures of Saturn's rings, a guy driving through Yosemite while it was on fire, etc. The #1 post that day was a cell phone vertical video showing a random liquor store employee in Canada slowly packing bottles of Jack Daniels into a box to assumingly be shipped back to the manufacturer because of politics. The entire comment section was politics. It had several thousand upvotes.

Do you think that a post like that qualifies as "interesting as fuck"? Do you think that the voting system is working as intended? Was that community really interested in this guy packing a box, or do you think it could have been related to ulterior motives? The subreddit is a fairly big one with many subscribers, which makes it very attractive to people trying to push a certain way of thinking.

You can say that the community voted for it, so it must be, but I don't think it's that simple. Nor do I think that actual humans that joined the sub looking for interesting things would be interested in it. Maybe if he was packing liquor into a box that was on fire while riding a unicycle. Then maybe there'd be an argument.

The voting system, as reddit originally saw it, was done so that upvotes were meant to be used for content you wanted to see more of, and downvotes were supposed to be to indicate that post/comment wasn't relevant to the subreddit. Almost immediately it turned into "do I agree with this guy or not?" There's no way to enforce that it be used as intended, that's why it's a shit system. Especially with full anonymity, unlimited free accounts, and compatibility with bots considered a "feature" of the platform.
 
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Pejo said:
I feel like we're talking in circles. The voting system allows/encourages echo chamber behavior, botted narratives, hiding dissenting opinions, etc. It's a terrible system from the get go, which is the point of my original post in this thread.

Just a few days ago I went to the "/r/interestingasfuck" subreddit, which is supposed to be about things that are interesting as fuck. Some highlights I've seen there are scientific breakthroughs, pictures of Saturn's rings, a guy driving through Yosemite while it was on fire, etc. The #1 post that day was a cell phone vertical video showing a random liquor store employee in Canada slowly packing bottles of Jack Daniels into a box to assumingly be shipped back to the manufacturer because of politics. The entire comment section was politics. It had several thousand upvotes.

Do you think that a post like that qualifies as "interesting as fuck"? Do you think that the voting system is working as intended? Was that community really interested in this guy packing a box, or do you think it could have been related to ulterior motives? The subreddit is a fairly big one with many subscribers, which makes it very attractive to people trying to push a certain way of thinking.

You can say that the community voted for it, so it must be, but I don't think it's that simple. Nor do I think that actual humans that joined the sub looking for interesting things would be interested in it. Maybe if he was packing liquor into a box that was on fire while riding a unicycle. Then maybe there'd be an argument.

The voting system, as reddit originally saw it, was done so that upvotes were meant to be used for content you wanted to see more of, and downvotes were supposed to be to indicate that post/comment wasn't relevant to the subreddit. Almost immediately it turned into "do I agree with this guy or not?" There's no way to enforce that it be used as intended, that's why it's a shit system. Especially with full anonymity, unlimited free accounts, and compatibility with bots considered a "feature" of the platform.
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It sounds like the real issue is with moderators allowing and encouraging that crap in the first place. If they enforced no politics rules everywhere but specifically designated political channels, it sounds like you could use the system as intended. Or maybe have a third "this doesn't belong here!" option that gets the content flagged for moderation.

The truth is, any discussion site online is only as good as it's moderation, and reddit has become horrible. The real solution is trying to figure out the proper setup so a website never can become that in the first place. Maybe something like community notes, but for moderators. Action doesn't happen until it's agreed upon from several different perspectives.
 
LegendOfKage said:
It sounds like the real issue is with moderators allowing and encouraging that crap in the first place. If they enforced no politics rules everywhere but specifically designated political channels, it sounds like you could use the system as intended. Or maybe have a third "this doesn't belong here!" option that gets the content flagged for moderation.

The truth is, any discussion site online is only as good as it's moderation, and reddit has become horrible. The real solution is trying to figure out the proper setup so a website never can become that in the first place. Maybe something like community notes, but for moderators. Action doesn't happen until it's agreed upon from several different perspectives.
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Maybe AI could be a tool used for modding in the future, I could see that helping depending on the AI. As long as you have people doing it, though, they're going to be prone to biases. Especially in reddit's case, mods there are unpaid which means that you only have people volunteering to use their limited(?) free time keeping things running smoothly. If they're not getting paid, then they're most likely doing it as a power tripping type thing, as is the case with 'power mods'.

But yea, I agree, that's definitely part of the problem. But no matter how good your modding is, it's not gonna prevent mass downvotes and hiding of "unpopular" opinions, which is a direct outcome of the 'voting' mechanism.
 
Yes!!! It has a real chance to succeed. reddit has been extremely manipulative and doesnt allow for honest conversations. I remember when reddit took over Digg, after all these years they can have their comeback.
 
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