Agreed. Sony did patent their checkerboarding tech, though... Do we know if Microsoft has an equivalent?
There's different cb solutions available, other devs and companies have used it as well. Sony is just doing one type
Agreed. Sony did patent their checkerboarding tech, though... Do we know if Microsoft has an equivalent?
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-project-scorpio-tech-revealed
It's an overclocked RX 480 as Pro is a downclocked one. Vega wouldn't need that high clocks for 6Tflops.
I was being sarcastic, in response to other posts. My bad haha. I thought I was sounding absurd enough for it to be obvious. 😬While they're definitely neophiles I see zero evidente that they're lying about their enthusiasm. They're also a little more than willing to reiterate untested claims about the importance of customizations to stock designs, but given that there's no way to test a typical title running on multiple platforms at this point I guess that's to be expected. Consumers should know what they're getting in terms of coverage this early on. Anything new and slightly different is unprecedented and amazing, which gets a little old when you've seen the cycle repeat over and over, but at least it's consistent. They also had some of the most positive coverage of the PS4 Pro when it was first revealed.
Just forget about the 16AF. Dont think its ever coming to a PS4 Pro game ever. Not to mention 4k textures.pretty negligible I think, the bigger advantage for scorpio is 4k textures and 16xAF (if the Pro doesn't somehow do those as well)
Yeah but still Polaris clearly.
Not at all. As I've said all along, that was just more high hopes
I will be VERY interested to see the 2160cp vs 2160p and if it was worth the year wait.
Where's that coming from?
Nice, but why does the box extend a good inch or two further than the pcb/fan casing on the left hand side? Looks like you could shave a bit off there?
Just forget about the 16AF. Dont think its ever coming to a PS4 Pro game ever. Not to mention 4k textures.
For me the biggest advantage could the custom jaguar. I want them to go more into detail about it.
Some people in this thread are just getting nasty. Time for believers to abandon thread and leave the haters to continue spreading vitriol?
Do we know if the Kinect will work?
I am impressed that DF was impressed that much.I guess they had lower expectations before going to that reveal 'ceremony'.
Anyway, it is good news that Microsoft is still trying to win this race back.But they should concentrate on games firstly.After all it is the reason we buy all these boxes.
Agreed. Sony did patent their checkerboarding tech, though... Do we know if Microsoft has an equivalent?
yeah, but what's the real world performance of that? I had a friend who played Horizon on a monitor and then played it in 4K and wasn't really impressed. It's a jump in fidelity, but we enthusiast do exaggerate the real world difference at times.
Sitting down with Destiny on PS4 Pro and Scorpio isn't going to be some huge deal to likely majority of the gaming industry. Scropio is roughly 50% more powerful, it's what Pro would have been if it came out this year. It's comparable to PS4 > X1, slightly bigger jump, but again, I don't see the real world differences being that major once the games start rolling out.
hmmm...if that ever was the case for Neogaf I'm not sure it is any longer. GAF is pretty mainstream now man.We're NeoGAF, not N4G. There is an inherent expectation of knowledge and interest beyond what is considered "casual" when you sign up to become a member here.
I think it'll still work with an adapter
I'd be surprised if it wasn't at least supported like it is on the S. However, I doubt there will be any major mention of it, as the device is unfairly regarded as poison.
I hope they still have the cable program because I've had mine plugged in and used every day since day 1. It's a great piece of tech and makes interacting with the console in certain use cases very enjoyable and easy. I'm still miffed that they took away the hand control options and the old netflix build that worked great with it. It was the best way to scrub through video content outside of a mouse.
And yes, a lot of people are working overtime to downplay every aspect about it. A lot of people spent the last 3 years gloating over every DF comparison, and soon they won't be able to do that. Look at how many posters are now claiming DF of all places is biased towards MS and is doing PR puff-piece sponsored content. It just really grates certain people that MS made an impressive piece of gaming hardware that puts the Pro to shame in many ways.
Yeah... now I'm worried it'll be $499+, if so I'm definitely out. Not much budget for me to wiggle around between all the amazing games coming out, a Pro and a Switch.
the disparity wil most often be resolution
Pretty much. Only thing that sets this place apart from others now is the moderation. The quality of posters are what you'd expect on the internet.hmmm...if that ever was the case for Neogaf I'm not sure it is any longer. GAF is pretty mainstream now man.
We're NeoGAF, not N4G. There is an inherent expectation of knowledge and interest beyond what is considered "casual" when you sign up to become a member here.
These specs look great.
Now I hope Microsoft give us a reason to actually buy it.
pretty negligible I think, the bigger advantage for scorpio is 4k textures and 16xAF (if the Pro doesn't somehow do those as well)
Xbox "ULTRA"
using the Killer Instinct annoucer VO so it sounds like .. EX-BOX ... ULLLLLLTRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
then they play 2010 dubstep with a montage of tweens smiling at a tv.
Text Overlay - "YOU"RE HARDCORE"
Just forget about the 16AF. Dont think its ever coming to a PS4 Pro game ever. Not to mention 4k textures.
For me the biggest advantage could the custom jaguar. I want them to go more into detail about it.
That hardware DX12 operation to the CPU is also a very intriguing wrinkle for me.okay - let me be serious for a second.
- 1.8TF extra to achieve native 2160p (4k) [compared to ps4 pro]
- 3GB GDDR5 Ram extra to stream 4k textures/assets [compared to ps4 pro]
- 10% extra CPU power with less overhead to sustain frame-rates when game is pushing 4k res and 4k assets/textures [compared to ps4 pro]
- 1TB HDD that loads 50% faster than OG 500GB HDD. "faster loading times" [compared to xbox one]
Does that sound about right yall?
Yeah, and outside of GAF, that's not really important, and besides COD coming out on X1 at launch looking a bit rough, DF threads have always been overblown. I think when you have to screenshot things side-by-side to see the differences, it's moot for most gamers.The real world performance if we assume that the jump is the same as the xbox one to ps4 (which is underplaying it) is that all those face off articles for every multiplatform game this generation will now have a different conclusion.
That's why they went to digital foundry.
That's why this matters.
Links or powerstar
REAL motocross madness
Midtown Madness
Alan Wake
Crimson Skies
Flight Sim
HDMI in has become a must have for me. So glad it is still there.
Reading your just made me think of how fucking amazeballs would a scorpio optimized KI look !!
How does a 1tb HDD load anything faster than a 500gb one? Is it a 15k rpm drive or something?okay - let me be serious for a second.
- 1.8TF extra to achieve native 2160p (4k) [compared to ps4 pro]
- 3GB GDDR5 Ram extra to stream 4k textures/assets [compared to ps4 pro]
- 10% extra CPU power with less overhead to sustain frame-rates when game is pushing 4k res and 4k assets/textures [compared to ps4 pro]
- 1TB HDD that loads 50% faster than OG 500GB HDD. "faster loading times" [compared to xbox one]
Does that sound about right yall?
This would be a great save for E3 reveal.
Reading your just made me think of how fucking amazeballs would a scorpio optimized KI look !!
okay - let me be serious for a second.
- 1TB HDD that loads 50% faster than OG 500GB HDD. "faster loading times" [compared to xbox one]
Does that sound about right yall?
How does a 1tb HDD load anything faster than a 500gb one? Is it a 15k rpm drive or something?
it will give current $2k gaming pc's a run for their money
How does a 1tb HDD load anything faster than a 500gb one? Is it a 15k rpm drive or something?
I know we've discussed it previously, but there's a bit of a hurdle involved with 4k textures in the delivery of those 4k assets. They won't fit on the blu ray on in most cases and they can't use UHD for games. Unless MS is willing to offer them as add-ons free of charge, they will be a bit tricky. Pubs won't pay for the extra bandwidth etc, and Joe Consumer won't be happy with a mandatory patch with 20+GB content they can't even use.
16xAF should be good though, Sony needs to get on that
Oh boy, i think at e3 we are in for a treat for some 4k 60fps Killer Instinct!
I really hope they provide media downloads so we can see the 4k videos without streaming deficiencies. i think they did this last year, right?