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Disney hits the panic button

TGO

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Doom85

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But it's the truth whether you like it or not.

Truth? It’s just a cheap buzz word these days that is just thrown out whenever someone doesn’t like something for…..reasons. And at the end of the day, what is “crap“ is nothing but an opinion, so you are objectively wrong to claim it is truth. If anything, it makes one’s opinion appear less confident if they feel the need to pretend it is “truth”.
 
Truth? It’s just a cheap buzz word these days that is just thrown out whenever someone doesn’t like something for…..reasons. And at the end of the day, what is “crap“ is nothing but an opinion, so you are objectively wrong to claim it is truth. If anything, it makes one’s opinion appear less confident if they feel the need to pretend it is “truth”.
Ironically, this was the entire framework of the leftists propagating "woke" ideology in the first place. They have ultimately diluted many words such as racist, nazi, etc by weaponizing them when people dared to disagree or even question any of their warped worldviews as "truth".
Yeah woke gets thrown around a lot, and maybe they don't like it - but they had no problem in the beginning jamming it down everyone's throat to appear virtuous, while at the same time acting like brainwashed fascists constantly pivoting to the "new" subjective morality playbook.

In short - fuck em.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
Truth? It’s just a cheap buzz word these days that is just thrown out whenever someone doesn’t like something for…..reasons. And at the end of the day, what is “crap“ is nothing but an opinion, so you are objectively wrong to claim it is truth. If anything, it makes one’s opinion appear less confident if they feel the need to pretend it is “truth”.
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TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Truth? It’s just a cheap buzz word these days that is just thrown out whenever someone doesn’t like something for…..reasons. And at the end of the day, what is “crap“ is nothing but an opinion, so you are objectively wrong to claim it is truth. If anything, it makes one’s opinion appear less confident if they feel the need to pretend it is “truth”.
If you don't like it being called "woke" which I can't see a better way to describe a product let down by someone injecting such nonsense then it's just crap.
Happy now?
 

Fake

Gold Member
Even the Wednesday actress, Jenna Marie Ortega, said in an interview she is tired of hollywood being politically correct.

If after that you still don't believe in 'politically correct', you're either acting in bad faith or just too much liberal to notice.
 

Doom85

Member
Even the Wednesday actress, Jenna Marie Ortega, said in an interview she is tired of hollywood being politically correct.

If after that you still don't believe in 'politically correct', you're either acting in bad faith or just too much liberal to notice.

I’m not saying PC can’t exist, I’m just saying a fictional work is not automatically PC because some rando on the Internet is screaming about it. If you can’t see that, maybe you’re too much on the other side to notice…..
 

Doom85

Member
Ironically, this was the entire framework of the leftists propagating "woke" ideology in the first place. They have ultimately diluted many words such as racist, nazi, etc by weaponizing them when people dared to disagree or even question any of their warped worldviews as "truth".
Yeah woke gets thrown around a lot, and maybe they don't like it - but they had no problem in the beginning jamming it down everyone's throat to appear virtuous, while at the same time acting like brainwashed fascists constantly pivoting to the "new" subjective morality playbook.

In short - fuck em.

Yeah, and now the shoe is on the other foot.

In short - fuck all the drama queens on BOTH sides.
 
Yeah, and now the shoe is on the other foot.

In short - fuck all the drama queens on BOTH sides.
I wouldn't say the shoe has transferred, more like they are on both feet. People are doubling down more than ever, especially given the election looming, but I agree.
People need to get out of this victimhood complex/rage cycle/finger-pointing/pseudo-puritanism loop they are too stupid to realize they are in. And for those that are in it willingly, using this shit to profit or influence, to gather likes and social standing - these people are absolutely fucked in the head.
 

BigBeauford

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This is the most anti art, anti craft comment I've ever seen that believes itself convicned it is pro art and pro craft.

There is not one single well regarded filmmaker, writer, producer, or anything who could agree with you on this. In fact, they have already said the opposite.

George Lucas makes movies HE wants to make. Spielberg makes movies HE wants to make. Coppola makes movies HE wants to make. Scott makes movies HE wants to make. Lynxh makes movies HE wants to make. They have all, over their lengthy careers, been given opportunities to alter their stories to appeal to the more people for financial gain, or to work on projects with a much higher guarantee o financial success and 90% of the time they come to regret doing so.

Disney is a corporation. They want money. That's their job. The artists they hire, are artists. And when they get hired they SHOULD be getting hired to put themselves into the work. Thats the entire point. Financial success is secondary to that, and the point at which it isn't is the point at which the craft is gone for good.

And no, people don't just watch movies for fun. They watch movies to hear a story, to envision a world they cannot access, or just to feel something. That doesnt just mean "fun".
Yeah, like how the artists were so desperate to upstage Buzz with a woman of color, that they shoehorned the lamest backstory of how Buzz Light-year became a toy sensation based off a show where he played second fiddle but somehow was the most popular toy.
 

Toons

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Yeah, like how the artists were so desperate to upstage Buzz with a woman of color, that they shoehorned the lamest backstory of how Buzz Light-year became a toy sensation based off a show where he played second fiddle but somehow was the most popular toy.

I dont see how this in any way relates to what I just said lmao. Its a complete non sequitur.
 

Sonik

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I'm sorry Manabyte but the conclusions you reach from this graph are painfully stupid, the decisions these CEOs are making only have results after years, the disastrous phase 4, the aggressive woke horseshit, the Disney+ fiasco where they spammed Disney consoomers with so much garbage that even they couldn't take it were all Iger's decisions. The only thing Iger is good at is knowing when he fucked up and backstabbing, he let Chapek suffer all the consequences of his idiocy and arrogance and when Chapek started fixing things he blamed him for the results of his own moronic decisions and since investors are gullible idiots he took over again. I doubt he'll repeat the same mistakes again but I'm sure he'll find other ways to ruin Disney
 
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Lambogenie

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How is Tangled not part of this. Bloody idiots.

Then again, it's good with what it has, unlike the crap that was Frozen II.

Also, remake the early stuff in modern tech. Early pixar stuff is an easy win as long as they don't try to modernise "problematic" things. Use it to train junior talent.

And for crying out loud, make Kingdom Hearts into a movie and or anime franchise already. This is ripe for cross media milking but they waste on dumb mobile shit.
 
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How is Tangled not part of this. Bloody idiots.

Then again, it's good with what it has, unlike the crap that was Frozen II.

Also, remake the early stuff in modern tech. Early pixar stuff is an easy win as long as they don't try to modernise "problematic" things. Use it to train junior talent.

And for crying out loud, make Kingdom Hearts into a movie and or anime franchise already. This is ripe for cross media milking but they waste on dumb mobile shit.
Disney likely has "sensitivity readers" in its employment, so that would be an impossible task.
 

Cyberpunkd

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The value destruction is impressive, especially when you consider the S&P 500 is up ~85% in the same time period. Keep in mind this includes the impact of the "two $1 billion movies."
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Iger picked Czapek personally, and then had second thoughts and couldn't let go of his precious baby. He is a definition of arsonist / firefighter - Czapek didn't suddenly decide to go full woke, all that was part of Iger's legacy.
 
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