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Disney officially reveals $1.1 BILLION expansion to Disney's California Adventure

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ManaByte

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http://www.miceage.com/allutz/al101807a.htm

First up was the news of the dramatic remake of the main entrance area. As we had told you in previous updates, the two-dimensional and sterile entrance area with a contemporary feel from 2001 will all be gutted. Never before has Disney had to go in and rebuild an entrance area to a theme park before, but Bob and his team feel this is absolutely necessary for DCA to not only fix the cheap looking and unattractive entrance that leads to a barren cement plaza, but to also set the stage for the rest of the park and create a unique and welcoming buffer zone between the outside world and the experiences beyond.

Since we first told you about the plans a year ago, the original concept of entrance turnstiles framed by Craftsman architecture hung with bougainvillea has morphed into the jazzier version of the Pan-Pacific Amphitheater facade as inspiration for the new entrance (the Studios park in Orlando has a similar entrance). Set where the California letters currently stand, the new turnstiles lead to a space similar to the Town Square in Disneyland.

Here's where the Pacific Electric Red Cars will stop to pick up and drop off passengers, surrounded by new Mission Moderne buildings that will house the Guest Relations office, stroller rentals, lost and found desk, and all of the standard infrastructure a fancy Disney theme park needs near the front gate.

In the middle of this square will be a flagpole and statue, finally fixing the oversight DCA had on opening day of not containing a flagpole for the American and California flags. The statue at the base of the flagpole is planned to be a new spin on the Walt statue in the Hub at Disneyland. Except this time the statue is of a much younger Walt arriving in Los Angeles in the late 1920's with a cardboard suitcase and a much more wiry and and wide eyed version of Mickey Mouse at his side. It is in this opening entrance area where the Imagineers hope to lay out the concept of this being a park celebrating "Walt Disney's California."

Moving down the street, you pass under the art deco bridge that hides the monorail beam. This bridge won't be too much of a focal point however, as the long term plans for transportation around the Resort may have the monorail moving from that circa 1961 path. The newly rebuilt street reminiscent of Los Angeles 1920's architecture will still house stores and dining facilities, and Bob spoke repeatedly about "pulling in" the scale and scope of that entrance area of DCA, making it more intimate and approachable.

The entry street leads to a circular plaza with the trolleys and antique cars circling the street. The entire area will receive curbs and sidewalks and traditional street furniture. The current broad expanse of cement known as the Sun Plaza is universally derided amongst Imagineers for having no curbs and no welcoming feature that invites people to stop and sit. The parade route will no longer pass through this section of the park, and that gave the Imagineers leeway to make the streetscapes a bit narrower and add in architectural texture and design elements that would not have been possible if they had to plan for a big parade passing through there each day.

Bob explained that all of the new buildings would be very individualized and distinctly broken up, much like Main Street USA. He went into detail about the vast amount of work WDI has put in to creating shops, restaurants and architectural features that will bring a distinctly period and realistic feel to the area, all unlike the broad, bland, and cartoon-ish two dimensional surfaces that are there now.

The northern edge of the new Walt Disney Plaza will be bounded by the big new eye candy, and a structure that may become the parks signature icon, a remade Carthay Circle Theater. (This was the Wilshire area theater Snow White was premiered at in 1937.) Bob made the announcement that the theater would house a "New version of the Walt Disney Story," which effectively ends Whoopi Goldberg's reign as the Queen of California. For a time there was a concept to move a slightly revamped version of Golden Dreams into this theater, but Bob and John Lasseter want to pursue the Walt Disney angle completely, especially at the front of the park. So long Whoopi, it's back to Universal's trams for her. The trolley cars circling Walt Disney Plaza will take a left turn and rumble down Hollywood Blvd., before traveling south past the Tower of Terror and ending right at the entrance to the Cars Land expansion.

Bob then turned his attention to Paradise Pier, and explained all about the Victorian remake for that area that we've been telling you about all year. Midway Mania (yes, that really is the title for DCA's version), was included in the presentation, even though it is not formally part of the Billion dollar budget. Bob went on to explain how the midway games will all be rethemed to Disney or Pixar characters, instead of using the gimmicky California place names in their theme. Sketches were shown demonstrating the elaborate detail work that will soon sweep through Paradise Pier, and the sprawling beer garden and new viewing terrace for World Of Color were mentioned.

The modern Mickey Mouse symbol on California Screamin' will be replaced by a period looking sign advertising Paradise Pier. Mickey will instead take up residence on the Sun Wheel, with its new Victorian loading area rebuilt around it. Bob also explained how a new LED lighting system will be installed on the Sun Wheel that will offer dramatically improved effects over the existing conventional lightbulbs that always seem to be partially burned out.

In place of the Ratatouille coaster once planned for the area, the existing Mulholland Madness coaster will be rethemed as Goofy's Flying Academy, although this area and the space to the east where the sunglass store and corn dog stand currently stand will be held for future expansion.

The biggest news for Paradise Pier was the latest concepts for the Little Mermaid attraction that was shown. The ride was constantly referred to as "a major attraction" by both Bob Weis and Jay Rasulo, as the budget on this one is approaching 100 Million. Now normally a 100 Million dollar attraction would be considered an E Ticket, but that title was reserved for the 200+ Million dollar thrill ride in Cars Land.

Even though this brand new Omnimover ride will be long and lushly themed, showcasing every major musical number from the movie, there is a current thought that labeling this as an E Ticket might raise expectations to a level where people expect a wild thrill ride or a 15 minute long Pirates of the Caribbean type experience. So instead of calling it a "Super D Ticket" or a "Family E Ticket", the term "major attraction" is currently being used to describe this expensive new musical ride. The big Little Mermaid show building alone is already looking DisneySea-esque to many observers, and the accompanying play area and fanciful water garden alone will certainly bring more people to the area than Golden Dreams currently does.

Finally, it was time for Bob to unveil plans for the biggest piece of the Phase One expansion, the new Cars Land section of the park. The Radiator Springs Racers attraction using a third generation Test Track ride system, with dual tracks and a custom built show building, is clearly the headliner here. Bob showed several pictures as he explained that the ride will have indoor and outdoor ride sections, with the indoor show scenes featuring all of the Cars characters before the ride turns into a thrilling road race with you and another car racing side by side.

Just one look at the massive show building, reminiscent of some of the early artwork for the mothballed Western River Expedition ride at Walt Disney World, tells you that this is a big-budget, fancy E Ticket attraction in the grand Disney tradition. Bob clearly was proud as he explained that this one will have it all; detailed themeing, a technologically impressive ride system, advanced animatronics and special effects, and an engaging and interactive plotline that ends in family friendly thrills.

The rest of Radiator Springs will keep people around before and after their ride on the Racers however. Two additional C Ticket attractions will open in the attached town of Radiator Springs. A full-sized moving, talking and dancing Tow Mater will be the disc jockey at a spinner ride that will have passengers being whipped around the desert floor in truck trailers. Nearby, DCA visitors will get a chance to experience the old Flying Saucer ride of the 1960's at a bumper car ride hosted by Luigi. Instead of sitting in toy flying saucers however, riders will perch themselves on the giant hubcaps of huge truck tires, and using the same pneumatic technology that Walt used in Tomorrowland over 40 years ago the tires will slide and spin across the floor.

Bob explained how modern computers will be able to control the air compressors and valves much more effectively than they could in the 1960's, and the ride should be dramatically more reliable than Walt's original version. Bob also explained that when WDI gave a presentation to John Lasseter on the C Tickets planned for Radiator Springs, that Lasseter became as giddy as a schoolboy when the Luigi's flying saucer concept was shown to him. John immediately recognized the ride system and technology as almost identical to the Flying Saucers, and he immediately wanted it included in DCA just for the Disneyland nostalgia of it. The scenery may be vastly different than Tomorrowland circa 1964, but a whole new generation visiting Radiator Springs will be able to discover the joys of riding in Walt Disney's Flying Saucers.

Bob went on to explain that all of these projects, and more, will be on display in the Preview Center we'd already told you about that is planned for the San Francisco buildings in the center of the park. He then concluded his 30 minute presentation with an overview map of the future DCA, highlighting the buildings and areas that will be rebuilt or newly constructed for the project.

So let's recap exactly what was announced at yesterday's Town Hall Meeting, and what was not. Opening in DCA by the summer of 2012 is:

New Park Entrance Complex by 2011

* New Art Deco turnstiles pushed out to the current California letters
* Pacific Electric Red Cars to Hollywood and Radiator Springs
* Antique vehicles to Hollywood
* Carthay Circle Theater with new Walt Disney Story
* Walt Disney Plaza
* 1920's Los Angeles architecture throughout

Paradise Pier Remake 2008-2011

* Toy Story Midway Mania in 2008
* DCA Preview Center in 2008
* Disney's World of Color in 2009 with new amphitheater
* Little Mermaid Attraction and play area
* Goofy's Flying Academy
* Beer Garden
* Victorian architecture and themeing throughout
* Disney-Pixar character overlay to midway games

Cars Land expansion 2012

* 12 acre expansion into the existing Timon Lot
* Radiator Springs Racers E Ticket
* Luigi's bumper tires C Ticket (a la' Flying Saucers)
* Mater's Spinner C Ticket
* Drive-In Movie Restaurant
* Radiator Springs area development, stores, quick serve dining
* Realigned parade route
 

aparisi2274

Member
GitarooMan said:
All while Disney continues to essentially ignore WDW....

So So true...

Just give me the damn Space Mountain 2.0

See this is a case where Iger who is a native to SoCal would rather sink the budget into his park, because that is where he went when growing up, instead of into the WDW properties where they actually generate profits.
 

esbern

Junior Member
aparisi2274 said:
So So true...

Just give me the damn Space Mountain 2.0

See this is a case where Iger who is a native to SoCal would rather sink the budget into his park, because that is where he went when growing up, instead of into the WDW properties where they actually generate profits.


i saw WDW and though WoW for some reason. MIckey wields arcane axe?
 

SteveMeister

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aparisi2274 said:
So So true...

Just give me the damn Space Mountain 2.0

See this is a case where Iger who is a native to SoCal would rather sink the budget into his park, because that is where he went when growing up, instead of into the WDW properties where they actually generate profits.

To be fair, WDW needs renovation far less than Anaheim does.
 
SteveMeister said:
To be fair, WDW needs renovation far less than Anaheim does.
Eh, parts of Epcot (Wonders of Life area, etc.) look pretty rough, The MK Tommorowland section in WDW isn't looking so hot, MGM (or Disney Studios) desperately needs a facelift in many areas...
 

C4Lukins

Junior Member
GitarooMan said:
All while Disney continues to essentially ignore WDW....

Disneyland had become a complete shit hole and really needs the updating a whole lot more. My guess is that their plan is to get Disneyland back up to speed, and then focus on WDW.

I love it that they are upgrading the place, but come on, Cars Land? To dedicate such a large space to the worst Pixar film seems a little ridiculous. The attraction itself sounds like it could be cool, I just wish they used a different franchise.
 

aparisi2274

Member
SteveMeister said:
To be fair, WDW needs renovation far less than Anaheim does.

Actually... Rides in WDW are in a far worse shape than in DL.

Aside from Haunted Mansion which just got a nice upgrade (even better than the DL version), there are so many rides that are out of date.

PotC - Aside from the addition of Capt Jack Sparrow, this ride is archaic.
Small World - I think they did a minor refurb on this, but come on, with technology today... lets update.
Space Mountain - This is the biggest reason in itself. the ride is so outdated, it needs the 2.0 upgrade.

Spaceship Earth - Thank god this went down for refurb. This ride was so so so so so out dated that the future technologies listed at the end of the ride are things we are doing today.

I am sure there are more I cant think of right now... but WDW does really need a major upgrade
 

ManaByte

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Christopher

Member
Is California Adventures actually a part of Disney Land?

Speaking of which my mom said for our vacation next year we're going to Disney World - good stuff I haven't been there since liek I was 11.
 

C4Lukins

Junior Member
aparisi2274 said:
Actually... Rides in WDW are in a far worse shape than in DL.

Aside from Haunted Mansion which just got a nice upgrade (even better than the DL version), there are so many rides that are out of date.

PotC - Aside from the addition of Capt Jack Sparrow, this ride is archaic.
Small World - I think they did a minor refurb on this, but come on, with technology today... lets update.
Space Mountain - This is the biggest reason in itself. the ride is so outdated, it needs the 2.0 upgrade.

Spaceship Earth - Thank god this went down for refurb. This ride was so so so so so out dated that the future technologies listed at the end of the ride are things we are doing today.

I am sure there are more I cant think of right now... but WDW does really need a major upgrade

The thing about WDW is that there is just so much more to do. It needs a giant facelift also, but Disneyland had reached the point where it was just a boring subpar amusement park. As I said, I bet they are focusing on one at a time. Disneyland alone seems like a massive undertaking. When they get around to WDW, it should be pretty epic.
 

SUPREME1

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Christopher said:
Is California Adventures actually a part of Disney Land?

Speaking of which my mom said for our vacation next year we're going to Disney World - good stuff I haven't been there since liek I was 11.


Seperate, smaller park directly next to Disneyland.

It was supposed to be for teens, or bigger kids.. but it blew.



They are now trying to salvage it by throwing more money at it.

My niece goes to Disneyland/Ca Adventure a couple of times a year with her annual pass.. I'll be sure to pass this on.


On a related note, Disney is opening up a Resort/Hotel in Hawaii soon. No amusement park, just a very nice place to vacation. Mucho $$$.
 
C4Lukins said:
The thing about WDW is that there is just so much more to do. It needs a giant facelift also, but Disneyland had reached the point where it was just a boring subpar amusement park. As I said, I bet they are focusing on one at a time. Disneyland alone seems like a massive undertaking. When they get around to WDW, it should be pretty epic.

That's it right there. In this area, there are 3 amusement parks to choose from, and frankly, Disneyland is #3.

It goes like this in SoCal:
1. Six Flags
2. Knotts Berry Farm
3. Disneyland

California Adventure helped, but Disneyland is still #3. It got so bad it was near irrelevancy. People would actually respond (and still do), "Hell no", when somebody brings up Disneyland.
 

aparisi2274

Member
C4Lukins said:
The thing about WDW is that there is just so much more to do. It needs a giant facelift also, but Disneyland had reached the point where it was just a boring subpar amusement park. As I said, I bet they are focusing on one at a time. Disneyland alone seems like a massive undertaking. When they get around to WDW, it should be pretty epic.


yeah like you said WHEN they get around to WDW... When being the key word
 

SteveMeister

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aparisi2274 said:
yeah like you said WHEN they get around to WDW... When being the key word

So, you think they're just going to ignore it? :lol :lol

Why on earth would they do that? They can't revamp all of the parks all at once. Even Disney doesn't have unlimited funds.

They WILL get to the WDW parks when they can. Right now, Anaheim gets the treatment first. I'm not sure why that might imply they never plan to do anything in Florida to you...
 
C4Lukins said:
I love it that they are upgrading the place, but come on, Cars Land? To dedicate such a large space to the worst Pixar film seems a little ridiculous. The attraction itself sounds like it could be cool, I just wish they used a different franchise.

I thought the same thing, but if they recreate Radiator Springs it'll be a great sight. There really isn't any location from another Pixar film they can do that with, so it makes sense.
 

jetjevons

Bish loves my games!
Dammit! DCA was like the best kept secret. I love that place. You can get a beer, wine taste, there's good food, great rides (Tower of Terror, Bug's Life, Soarin Over California, the white water rafting thing, the swinging feris wheel carriages, an actual rollercoaster) and best of all never any lines.
 

ManaByte

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ComputerNerd said:
That's it right there. In this area, there are 3 amusement parks to choose from, and frankly, Disneyland is #3.

It goes like this in SoCal:
1. Six Flags
2. Knotts Berry Farm
3. Disneyland

California Adventure helped, but Disneyland is still #3. It got so bad it was near irrelevancy. People would actually respond (and still do), "Hell no", when somebody brings up Disneyland.

Um, attendance numbers do not lie:
http://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/200704/320/

And the top 10 U.S. theme parks, by attendance:

1. Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom, 16.64 million, up 3.0 percent
2. Disneyland, Anaheim, 14.73 million, up 1.2 percent
3. Epcot, 10.46 million, up 5.5 percent
4. Disney-MGM Studios, 9.10 million, up 5.0 percent
5. Disney's Animal Kingdom, 8.91 million, up 8.6 percent
6. Universal Studios Florida, 6.00 million, up 1.2 percent
7. Disney's California Adventure, 5.95 million, up 2.1 percent
8. SeaWorld Orlando, 5.74 million, up 2.5 percent
9. Universal's Islands of Adventure, 5.30 million, down 4.8 percent
10. Universal Studios Hollywood, 4.70 million, flat

The next 10 North American parks are (in order):

* Busch Gardens Africa
* SeaWorld San Diego
* Knott's Berry Farm
* Canada's Wonderland
* Cedar Point
* Kings Island
* Six Flags Great Adventure
* Hersheypark
* Six Flags Great America
* Six Flags Magic Mountain

So in reality, it goes like this:

1. Disneyland
2. Knott's Berry Farm
3. Magic Mountain

Disneyland is #2 in the top 20 US theme parks as far as attendance goes, Knott's is #13, and Magic Mountain is dead last at #20.

Even California Adventure, which is getting this $1.1 billion face lift, is higher on the list than Magic Mountain.
 
ManaByte said:
Um, attendance numbers do not lie:
http://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/200704/320/



So in reality, it goes like this:

1. Disneyland
2. Knott's Berry Farm
3. Magic Mountain

Disneyland is #2 in the top 20 US theme parks as far as attendance goes, Knott's is #13, and Magic Mountain is dead last at #20.

Even California Adventure, which is getting this $1.1 billion face lift, is higher on the list than Magic Mountain.

In terms of enjoyment (for teens and 20 somethings), Magic Mountain definitely tops Disneyland. The lines are just too freaking long.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
Here's the actual press release:
Disney Announces Significant Expansion Plan
For The Disneyland Resort

Multi-Year Build-out Plan Includes Major Attractions and a
New "Cars Land" at Disney's California Adventure

GLENDALE, Calif., October 17, 2007 -- The Walt Disney Company today unveiled a significant multi-year expansion plan for the Disneyland Resort in Anaheim that continues its growth as a multi-day, world-class tourist destination.

Announced by Disney President and Chief Executive Officer Bob Iger and Parks and Resorts Chairman Jay Rasulo at a press conference at Walt Disney Imagineering’s Glendale headquarters, the expansion will bring new entertainment and major family-oriented attractions to Disney’s California Adventure, including an entirely new Cars Land inspired by the hit Disney•Pixar animated film Cars.

“The success of the Disneyland Resort over the past few years provides us with both the opportunity and the need to invest for growth, to enhance and expand the experience for our guests and attract new visitors, while at the same time delivering attractive returns on the investment,” said Iger. “This plan is a reflection of our belief in the bright future of the Disneyland Resort and our continuing commitment to grow the Anaheim Resort Area as a world class tourist destination.”

Disney Imagineers will be bringing more of Walt Disney into Disney’s California Adventure, celebrating the hope and optimism of California that attracted Walt to this land of opportunity in the 1920s. Guests entering the new Plaza will be instantly immersed in the world that inspired Walt during his early days as an animation pioneer. The new, interactive Walt Disney Story attraction will set the stage for the unfolding story of Walt that will permeate the park.

The expansive program reaches throughout Disney’s California Adventure, with an amazing Little Mermaid attraction, a groundbreaking, signature nighttime spectacular and
new viewing area for 9,000, and the addition of the 12-acre Cars Land featuring the world of Radiator Springs with three new attractions. Extensive landscaping, new retail and dining will create an even richer environment throughout the park in ways that reinforce Guests’ connection with Walt.

“Our Disneyland Guests have a deep emotional connection with Walt Disney, whose life story really captures the pioneering spirit of California in the 1920s,” said Rasulo. “The creative evolution of Disney’s California Adventure will connect guests to Walt’s own California adventure and reflect the place that he found when he first arrived with a cardboard suitcase in his hand and a head full of dreams.”

The expansion is part of Walt Disney Parks and Resorts’ overall growth strategy of continuing to invest in its core business of existing parks and resorts around the world, while exploring new opportunities to capture more of the growing family vacation market. This announcement follows Disney’s ground-breaking last month for a 250-room expansion of Disney’s Grand Californian Hotel & Spa, including 50 rooms dedicated to the West Coast debut of Disney Vacation Club, the company’s growing time share business.

Multi-day, World-Class Tourist Destination

Today’s announced expansion builds upon the transformation of the Disneyland park into a multi-day destination resort that began in 2001 with the creation of the Disneyland Resort and the opening of Disney’s California Adventure Park, Downtown Disney and Disney’s Grand Californian Hotel & Spa.

Since then, the Disneyland Resort has continued to grow with the addition of popular attractions and shows, including: Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage, Pirate’s Lair on Tom Sawyer Island, Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters, The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror, Monsters, Inc. Mike & Sulley to the Rescue!, Block Party Bash, High School Musical 2: Schools Out!, Disney Princess Fantasy Faire, and Jedi Training Academy, along with the re-Imagineering of Space Mountain and enhancements to Pirates of the Caribbean.

“This expansion builds on a commitment we made more than a decade ago to create and grow the Anaheim Resort Area as a world-class tourist destination where guests would want to stay for more than one day,” said Disneyland Resort President Ed Grier. "That investment has become a success for Disney, the Anaheim community and for the economy of Southern California.”

According to the Anaheim/Orange County Visitor and Convention Bureau, Anaheim is one of the fastest-growing tourist destinations in the country, enjoying some of the highest hotel occupancy rates in the nation and attracting millions of visitors each year who spend billions of dollars.

Coming to Disney’s California Adventure Over the Next Several Years

In addition to the new themeing and attractions, Disney’s California Adventure will receive new restaurant and retail innovations, landscaping to enrich the placemaking, facade and graphics enhancements, and an extensive menu of entertainment and events.
Disney’s California Adventure is already home to some of the Disneyland Resort’s highest-rated attractions and shows, including: Soarin’ Over California, California Screamin’, The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror and the Broadway-caliber show, Disney’s Aladdin - A Musical Spectacular.

Cars Land

The expansion will culminate with an entirely new, 12-acre addition: Cars Land, immersing guests into a world inspired by the hit Disney/Pixar movie, Cars, playing to America’s love affair with automobiles.

Radiator Springs Racers, a major “E-ticket” attraction, places guests right in the middle of the amazingly detailed, dimensional Cars world of Mater, Lightning McQueen, Doc and Sally. Guests get a quick race briefing from Doc and Lightning, and suddenly find themselves in the midst of a race around hairpin turns and steep banks.

Cars Land increases capacity to the park with two additional immersive family rides, featuring Luigi and Mater from the movie. Cars Land represents an unprecedented level of collaboration between Pixar Animation Studios and Disney Imagineering to create this extensive new area. The new land will substantially extend the total area of Disney’s California Adventure park.

Paradise Pier

Paradise Pier will host major new attractions beginning next summer with the opening of Toy Story Mania!, a ride-through, interactive adventure where Guests ride into a high-energy 4-D carnival midway hosted by Toy Story characters. Woody, Jessie, Buzz, Hamm and the gang come to life in amazing ways, immersing guests in the rich stories of the Pixar blockbuster Toy Story films.

A major ride based on Disney’s classic The Little Mermaid comes to the park’s Paradise Pier with leading-edge animation and special effects. Guests will dive into the magnificent scenes and magical songs from the movie. A Mermaid Grotto area with a fountain and sand castle will offer new play experiences for children.

Unique Nighttime Spectacular

The dramatic and unique Disney’s World of Color will bring new nighttime excitement to Paradise Pier. This nightly panorama of spectacular water effects, colorful lighting and music will bring Disney animation to life with an entirely new creative and technical approach. The 9,000 person viewing area offers prime waterside viewing of the show – and provides a site for live entertainment, music festivals, and outdoor film premieres.

Entry Plaza and Gateway

The totally new gateway to Disney’s California Adventure welcomes guests into an immersive world of historic California streets as Walt experienced them as a young artist arriving with big dreams.

A new visual icon in the tradition of Los Angeles, California’s great entertainment palaces will draw guests into the heart of the attractions. This new facility, which was inspired by Los Angeles’ historic Carthay Circle Theatre that premiered Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs in 1937, will house a next generation Walt Disney Story featuring an interactive tribute to Walt’s California experiences, and his entertainment legacy that continues world-wide today. Red Car trolleys reminiscent of the old Pacific Electric Railway will travel up and down the main street. New dining and shopping experiences and a slate of unique, live entertainment will bring energy to the Walt Disney Plaza.

Hollywood Pictures Backlot

Hollywood Pictures Backlot will be a new home for a slate of special ticketed events and chances to hear first hand from innovative directors, writers and animators. An update of the popular family show “Playhouse Disney” will provide an experience for younger children.

Golden State

The “Golden State” area of the park will see the addition of numerous new dining opportunities tied to the incredible bounty of California’s farmland and its rich ethnically diverse food heritage. Food and wine festivals that celebrate the seasons, tastes and cultures of the dynamic communities of the Golden State will entertain guests, bringing unique one-of-a-kind experiences.

Preview Center

A Preview Center located on San Francisco Street in the Golden State region of the park will feature models, Imagineering concepts – giving park guests a sneak peek at the excitement that lies ahead. The Preview Center is scheduled to open in late 2008.

About the Disneyland Resort:

Located on approximately 500 acres in Anaheim, Calif., the Disneyland Resort includes the Disneyland and Disney’s California Adventure Parks, three hotels with approximately 2,200 rooms and the 310,000 square foot retail, restaurant and entertainment Downtown Disney District. With 20,000 employees, the Disneyland Resort is Orange County’s largest single-site employer and a $3.6 billion annual contributor to the local economy. In January 2004, the Resort welcomed its 500 millionth guest since opening on July 17, 1955.
 

icecream

Public Health Threat
Jamesfrom818 said:
In terms of enjoyment (for teens and 20 somethings), Magic Mountain definitely tops Disneyland. The lines are just too freaking long.
Which doesn't meant anything when you have consistently thousands of tourists coming in with the first thing they say as 'We want to go to Disneyland!'
 

p_xavier

Authorized Fister
icecream said:
Which doesn't meant anything when you have consistently thousands of tourists coming in with the first thing they say as 'We want to go to Disneyland!'

I still don't understand, why would they build two parks next to each other? They're not linked? You need to buy two passes?!
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
JeFfRey said:
I still don't understand, why would they build two parks next to each other? They're not linked? You need to buy two passes?!

You can either buy two separate tickets or one park hopper tickets. It's no different to how it works at WDW with the separate parks.
 

AMUSIX

Member
spootime said:
so are they gonna install some real rollercoasters?
Yeah, Mana beat me, but currently DCA has a great coaster and an ok steel wild mouse. This major addition will add an upgraded Test Track ride, which could very easily be compared to a coaster as far as thrill goes.

On that, I'd say leave traditional coasters out. Don't try and compete with other parks in the area in a field that you can't win. Instead work on delivering more compelte experience, which is what it looks like they're doing here.

Oh, and for those who are questioning "Cars Land", they already have a smaller one up and running in Europe, and it seems to be a hit. Granted, themeing an entire area after a single movie just feels wrong (I'm looking at you, A Bug's Land).
 

Branduil

Member
A theme park dedicated to the experiences of the state it's in still seems like a terrible idea to me... WDW definitely needs some renovation, particularly the Magic Kingdom.
 
That CARS ride sounds amazing. I've heard the newer Test Track system (2nd gen I guess) used on Journey to the Center of the Earth at TDS is freakin' amazing. Can't wait to see what they do with a 3rd gen system. I will def. be holding off on getting back to California until phase 1 is complete. I'm a Florida boy, and I get my Disney fix down here, but there is something to be said for the original park. Fixing up DCA will make a second trip out to Cali that much sweeter.
 
Could Cars Land in 2012, a good six years after the films release spell the possibility of Cars 2 being developed as we speak? Up to a good five years to develop and release a Pixar movie is the usual length is it not?
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
cordonbleu said:
Could Cars Land in 2012, a good six years after the films release spell the possibility of Cars 2 being developed as we speak? Up to a good five years to develop and release a Pixar movie is the usual length is it not?

Cars 2 is expected in either 2011 or 2012. They're timing it so the movie and rides open around the same time.
 

Hcoregamer00

The 'H' stands for hentai.
This is great, DCA needs the improvements.

Of course, I would love to have them ripoff disneySEA, but that isn't happening anytime soon.
 

MattKeil

BIGTIME TV MOGUL #2
Jamesfrom818 said:
In terms of enjoyment (for teens and 20 somethings), Magic Mountain definitely tops Disneyland. The lines are just too freaking long.

Yeah, I much prefer the danger and excitement of gangbangers and shiftless thugs wandering around my amusement parks. That way the adrenaline never stops!
 

Hcoregamer00

The 'H' stands for hentai.
MattKeil said:
Yeah, I much prefer the danger and excitement of gangbangers and shiftless thugs wandering around my amusement parks. That way the adrenaline never stops!

Exactly, there is danger in every turn!!!

:lol
 

Desperado

Member
ManaByte said:
Cars 2 is expected in either 2011 or 2012. They're timing it so the movie and rides open around the same time.

Really? What are the time tables on the other Pixar films in the works?

Wikipedia said:
# Up (2009 film) in theaters June 12, 2009
# Toy Story 3 in theaters June 11, 2010
# Cars 2 in theaters June 10, 2011
# 1906 (film) in theaters June 9, 2012
# John Carter from Mars in theaters June 8, 2013
# Monsters, Inc. 2 in theaters August 16, 2014
# Toy Story 4 in theaters July 4, 2015
# Cars 3 in theaters July 17, 2016
# Alive Dogs in thaters July 16, 2017

Are all these legit projects?
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
I can't fathom how a single attraction can cost $100 million, let alone $200 million.

Desperado said:
Are all these legit projects?
Hell no. Up and Toy Story 3 are real. 1906 and John Carter are in some form of development, but aren't even greenlit. Cars 2 is rumored, the rest is bullshit.
 
ManaByte said:
Um, attendance numbers do not lie:
http://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/200704/320/



So in reality, it goes like this:

1. Disneyland
2. Knott's Berry Farm
3. Magic Mountain

Disneyland is #2 in the top 20 US theme parks as far as attendance goes, Knott's is #13, and Magic Mountain is dead last at #20.

Even California Adventure, which is getting this $1.1 billion face lift, is higher on the list than Magic Mountain.

I was talking more about local perception. Disneyland gets a lot of tourists, but locals just don't go there. So long as you're above, say, 10.
 
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