Angelus Errare
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I'm still trying to figure out the cap behind the cervix part.
Doctor sprayed womans genitals with Potassium hydroxide, not vinegar
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JetBlackPanda
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what?? bare hands?? bottle caps behind cervix?? I don't have any diseases??
this is the Dr.
this is the Dr.
Lamel
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The cap couldn't have been from the spray bottle, because they don't have caps like that.
Maybe the cap is what the concern was and she went to get it checked out? Or maybe it's the cap of the ointment the doc put on?
Really weird.
Count Dookkake
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What a douche.
TUROK
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This sort of info needs to be in the OP.
Zoe
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speculawyer
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Why was there an unmarked bottle of drain cleaner lying around?
^^
Yeah, even with the new information that the chemical is common for warts, and would be in the office;
The doctors actions are pretty perplexing, and it defines that saying "adding insult to injury." Which is rarely done in such a text-book way. I'd be amazingly offended, and feel a little weirded out that he went in without gloves, as a medical professional. And more specifically, a Obgyn.
Yeah, even with the new information that the chemical is common for warts, and would be in the office;
The doctors actions are pretty perplexing, and it defines that saying "adding insult to injury." Which is rarely done in such a text-book way. I'd be amazingly offended, and feel a little weirded out that he went in without gloves, as a medical professional. And more specifically, a Obgyn.
Zoe
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Whoops, quoted the wrong one above. This post:
Well from reading the link that raindoc posted, the second step after exposing the lesions with the vinegar is to burn them off.
NaughtyCalibur
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I actually had to reread that several times because I just... wot
it's not the next step and doctors don't use KOH to get rid of such lesions. IIRC Gyns use KOH to prepare tissue samples for evaluation under the microscope in case of an infection.
it would be nice to get kms_md from that other thread in here, it's been a while since I took the exam and honestly was never that fond of this speciality.
My guess is that it was a bizarre mistake and an unpleasant situation that should be looked at, but in a country of 300 million bizarre shit will happen even to competent people. Her comments at the end of the article sounds like she's hamming it up a bit for the lawsuit.
The doctor's reaction once he realized what was up was a bit odd but in full panic mode I could imagine many doing the same thing.
The doctor's reaction once he realized what was up was a bit odd but in full panic mode I could imagine many doing the same thing.
SolidusDave
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Our lab safety instructor would turn in his grave (if he were dead).
Yeah... Even direct smelling is strongly discouraged.
I guess now that they're talking we get to hear stuff like this.
Pretty horrifying indeed.
Kind of an idiot for tasting a chemical he doesn't know, he probably was freaking the fuck out.
My guess is that he took off his gloves (as they were probably covered in KOH) and then thought he didn't have enough time to put on new ones.
Not to be too big of a skeptic, but why would she need a hysterectomy? That seems a bit steep (I don't know what the ''normal'' thing is (not like there have been many cases like this))
Kind of an idiot for tasting a chemical he doesn't know, he probably was freaking the fuck out.
My guess is that he took off his gloves (as they were probably covered in KOH) and then thought he didn't have enough time to put on new ones.
Not to be too big of a skeptic, but why would she need a hysterectomy? That seems a bit steep (I don't know what the ''normal'' thing is (not like there have been many cases like this))
gynGAF here for a brief refresher on the use of KOH and acetic acid in office procedures.
first of all - never taste ANYTHING in a gynecologist's office.
secondly - ALWAYS wear gloves (and scrubs - never nice clothes).
i am a bit confused on the mix up between the KOH and vinegar (typically 3% acetic acid). they are stored in completely different containers and never administered by spray bottle (at least in my experience). KOH is typically used as part of the "whiff test" looking for bacterial vaginosis, whereby a vaginal specimen on a slide is mixed with KOH and a classic "fishy" smell is noted. gross, i know.
in fact, i do not know or remember the last time this test was performed in my office. in residency, we taught the medical students and interns how to do it, because (1) it is one of those classic gynecology tests and (2) its at times repulsive to do, so, why not make the lower levels do it?
acetic acid (vinegar water) is used during colposcopy. when a woman has an abnormal pap smear which suggests the presence of high risk HPV, gynecologists perform colposcopy to evaluate the cervix and ensure a more high grade or dangerous process is not present. basically, the colposcope is just a microscope used to look inside the vagina (the roots of the word are basically "vagina-scope", but that does not sound scientific at all). we apply 3% acetic acid (vinegar) to the cervix and use the microscope to evaluate for any abnormalities. these usually crop up as "acetowhite" lesions (again because "vinegar-white spots" is not very scientific sounding). they areas appear white because the HPV virus (should actually just be HPV - human papilloma virus - kind of like saying ATM machine) affects the glycogenation within the cells, which in turn causes the cells to appear white with microscopy and acetic acid.
first of all - never taste ANYTHING in a gynecologist's office.
secondly - ALWAYS wear gloves (and scrubs - never nice clothes).
i am a bit confused on the mix up between the KOH and vinegar (typically 3% acetic acid). they are stored in completely different containers and never administered by spray bottle (at least in my experience). KOH is typically used as part of the "whiff test" looking for bacterial vaginosis, whereby a vaginal specimen on a slide is mixed with KOH and a classic "fishy" smell is noted. gross, i know.
in fact, i do not know or remember the last time this test was performed in my office. in residency, we taught the medical students and interns how to do it, because (1) it is one of those classic gynecology tests and (2) its at times repulsive to do, so, why not make the lower levels do it?
acetic acid (vinegar water) is used during colposcopy. when a woman has an abnormal pap smear which suggests the presence of high risk HPV, gynecologists perform colposcopy to evaluate the cervix and ensure a more high grade or dangerous process is not present. basically, the colposcope is just a microscope used to look inside the vagina (the roots of the word are basically "vagina-scope", but that does not sound scientific at all). we apply 3% acetic acid (vinegar) to the cervix and use the microscope to evaluate for any abnormalities. these usually crop up as "acetowhite" lesions (again because "vinegar-white spots" is not very scientific sounding). they areas appear white because the HPV virus (should actually just be HPV - human papilloma virus - kind of like saying ATM machine) affects the glycogenation within the cells, which in turn causes the cells to appear white with microscopy and acetic acid.
AtomskEater
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Did he keep the two chemicals in similar unlabeled bottles next to each other on the shelf? Jesus, what a fuckup, spraying the wrong chemical was bad enough but it just gets worse from there.
What about the bottle cap though?
Maybe he had a brewski to open ::shrugs::
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