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Doctor Who 50th Anniversary |OT| Splendid Chap, All Of Them

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aHebrewMenagerie

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The Last Day was cool. It's retarded that UK has to pay, I'm 90% sure it's a mistake. I like the sort of found footage thing they did with it. The Sets were awesome.
 
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infiniteloop

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8bit said:
io9 has a ranking of every story ever : http://io9.com/every-single-doctor-who-story-ranked-from-best-to-wors-1468104049
Timelash loses.
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Agree with most of the 'Classics' but The Eleventh Hour is way too low. below School Reunion, The Silurians?

#31 for Utopia/The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords? lol

Evil of the Daleks is too low also.

Bottom end of list is pretty accurate. Space Pirates isn't that bad. The Enemy of the World and Faceless Ones are decent I think, but I'm biased towards the Troughton era.
 
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cackhyena

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I'm only just about to finish up season 3, but Blink is the best one for me so far. Family of Blood is excellent a well. Gridlocked is right up there for the way it gives dat Fifth Element vibe. So goood.
 
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Mudcrab

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odiin

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infiniteloop said:
Agree with most of the 'Classics' but The Eleventh Hour is way too low. below School Reunion, The Silurians?

#31 for Utopia/The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords? lol

Evil of the Daleks is too low also.

Bottom end of list is pretty accurate. Space Pirates isn't that bad. The Enemy of the World and Faceless Ones are decent I think, but I'm biased towards the Troughton era.
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I realize that everyone had different opinions and it's especially difficult when you're having to order nearly 250 stories but that list is objectively terrible. Not only is Last of the Time lords 31 but it's actually ABOVE the Talons of Weng-Chiang which is in the 60s

Also above it is Rose which, according to the list, is the GREATEST first story for a Doctor OF ALL TIME.

The Enemy of the World and Faceless Ones are a damn sight better than decently, actually. They don't belong anywhere near the bottom of the list.
 
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Tregard

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I honestly really enjoyed "Fear Her", but I haven't watched it in a while. I appreciated the idea of a "near future" story, the near-past and near-future isn't an area Who covers enough.
 
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Sir_Crocodile

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8bit said:
io9 has a ranking of every story ever : http://io9.com/every-single-doctor-who-story-ranked-from-best-to-wors-1468104049
Timelash loses.
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Obvious this guy is a big fan given some of the comments (he is knowledgable about all the dvd enhancements for one thing), but he seems to have placed episodes higher for how important they were compared to how good they were, and it also seems nuwho eps are way overinflated - mediocre nuwho eps are way higher in the rankings then mediocre classic who fare.
 
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acheron_xl

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odiin said:
Also above it is Rose which, according to the list, is the GREATEST first story for a Doctor OF ALL TIME.
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Rose is pretty good. Unlike The Christmas Invasion (at #21!?!) which I think is the weakest first story that's not The Twin Dilemma or Time and the Rani.

Sir_Crocodile said:
Obvious this guy is a big fan given some of the comments (he is knowledgable about all the dvd enhancements for one thing), but he seems to have placed episodes higher for how important they were compared to how good they were, and it also seems nuwho eps are way overinflated - mediocre nuwho eps are way higher in the rankings then mediocre classic who fare.
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Episodes like The Idiot's Lantern ranking near the middle spell this out clearly.
 
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APZonerunner

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Hot Coldman said:
"I need an answer to dick all over the Moffat episodes, and pretend the classic series isn't full of inherent flaws, whilst making some sort of arbitrary listing to appease our idiot readers. Oh, I know..."
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I'm not sure how he's dicking over the Moffat episodes when there's one of his and three from his era in the top ten?! Also, it's not like it puts old Who on a pedestal - the entire 'Disappointment' section is old Who except Fear Her.
 
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Hot Coldman

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APZonerunner said:
I'm not sure how he's dicking over the Moffat episodes when there's one of his and three from his era in the top ten?! Also, it's not like it puts old Who on a pedestal - the entire 'Disappointment' section is old Who except Fear Her.
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Fair play to her (yes it's a woman, name's only at the top guys :lol ) on recognising most of the, er, "disappointments" are Old Who but I'm not going by the rankings, I'm going by the text. Almost every 11 Moffat story gets either a needlessly picky description or a plain factual description that tells you nothing about why it's listed.

Come on, she ranked Rose above The Eleventh Hour. I don't think I need to say more.
 
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Sotha Sil

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Funnily enough, "Rose" was my first episode and it made me shelf the series for years, while "The Eleventh Hour" immediatly clicked; Moffat is so much better at converting newcomers.
 
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Hot Coldman

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Re-watched "Rose" a couple days ago, and I love it, but it's just absolutely specific to the state of the franchise in 2005, the new Doctor and companion it was introducing (it's not the best Doctor introduction but I can't imagine another way to introduce those two characters) and the plays that RTD needed to make to the mainstream audience in order to worm the franchise back into the spotlight.

"The Eleventh Hour" is an opposite that embodies how magical the concept is, how intense the show can get and how fallible the protagonist can be, and it's fucking beautiful to boot. It's hands down THE best way to introduce the show to people... even if it did need 5 years of settling in to allow the episode to exist.
 
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Slowdive

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Cold War is way too high on that list, there's quite a bit wrong with it I think but not everyone will agree on something as big as that obviously.

Rose is brilliant, so is The Eleventh Hour, but when someone asks me where to start with the new series I say start with Rose tbh, and if they don't like it after a few episodes, then move on to The Eleventh Hour.

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Peter Davison's film is apparently going to be on red button on Saturday. I thought he'd just put it on Vimeo as usual, good to see it'll get actual screen time. FDR stands for "The Five(ish) Doctors Reboot" and Behind The Lens will also be on red button.
 
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Blader

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The Eleventh Hour is a perfect Doctor Who episode, imo. Does everything it needs to do as an introductory story and executes it fantastically.
 
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Axiom

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My only problem with The Eleventh Hour is that it so perfectly sets up the tone and direction of the Smith years that it makes the tonal shift of going back to 9 and 10 jarring.

People are prepared for that going in with the classic series, but even Moffat episodes under RTD are strikingly different in feel even if his tropes are all there.
 
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bengraven

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acheron_xl said:
On my journey through classic Who, Pertwee was the last Doctor that I watched, and I ended up kicking myself for resisting him. He's so good.
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He looks like a Doctor Who that could kick ass, then you see him candidly he looks like he's always smiling and having a good time.
 
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Ignis Fatuus

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The Last Day can be found on Doctor Who TV if anyone else out there has yet to see it.

It could have been better if the effects weren't total shit. I would've been pissed if I paid for this.
 
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Mariolee

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Did you guys see that new clip with
Rose meeting the Hurt Doctor? Looks like she has all of her bad wolf powers I guess.
 
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Ignis Fatuus

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I choose to believe that The Last Day is not canon but now I have a bad feeling that those scenes of ground combat in the Time War from the trailer is actually
The Fall of Arcadia
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Hot Coldman

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BobbyRoberts said:
wait, he said that? Like, as in obviously fucking around but someone's bound to take it seriously?
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Well the dude talking to him says "is it a scoop for us then?" and Moffat said "it's either a scoop or a lie!".

Of course, we're all clued in enough to know that the regen limit will be addressed very soon.
 
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paradox121

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BobbyRoberts said:
wait, he said that? Like, as in obviously fucking around but someone's bound to take it seriously?
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I think he kinda wants people to take him seriously at this stage.

Play up the fact that Capaldi's technically the 13th Doctor and that technically it was said he can only regenerate 12 times enough and it'll stick in the mindset of the less informed. Keeps interest after the 50th and hopefully for a few more years to come.
 
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