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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life

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I expected and hoped that the Doctor would swear eternal punishment to that damn Weeping Angel. I suspect they will revisit this this, erm, time(?) again. They never really explained how the timeline became so unstable in the first place, did they?
 

The Real Abed

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Why don't they just import the US version? I mean we gladly import their Doctor Who and Red Dwarf and other shows. Some that end up being Americanized. But not all of them thankfully. (Not that they didn't try to Americanize either of those. Thank goodness most of our bastardizations flop.)

Also, yes, I noticed that plaque. Was that in the Tardis? Or in the guys collection room? I didn't watch close enough or rewind.
 

Quick

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I've watched every single episode on day of broadcast ever since it came back in 2005, loved the show like mad ever since Christopher Ecclestone said "Run!", and the only episode I've ever truly despised was "Love and Monsters".

Amy and Rory are number one with a fucking bullet.

YOU LEAVE LOVE AND MONSTERS ALONE.
 

Jintor

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Also, I was hoping that detective would totally still be at the Quay.

Why don't they just import the US version? I mean we gladly import their Doctor Who and Red Dwarf and other shows. Some that end up being Americanized. But not all of them thankfully. (Not that they didn't try to Americanize either of those. Thank goodness most of our bastardizations flop.)

Also, yes, I noticed that plaque. Was that in the Tardis? Or in the guys collection room? I didn't watch close enough or rewind.

It's in the Tardis, the Doctor adjusts his 'look' before he rushes in to meet his wife

/edit is the ABC version missing a preview for the next episode?
 
If this is Smith's last season I definitely hope Oswin sticks around with 12, I don't want her to just have seven episodes or whatever.

It won't be, he's around for the 50th and S8 is supposed to start before then.

YOU LEAVE LOVE AND MONSTERS ALONE.

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The Real Abed

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I've watched every single episode on day of broadcast ever since it came back in 2005, loved the show like mad ever since Christopher Ecclestone said "Run!", and the only episode I've ever truly despised was "Love and Monsters".
My parents and I literally just watched that episode. My mom doesn't understand why "the internet" hates it. All I can say is because of the ending because I have no real answer.

Also, that means the next episode is Fear Her.

*For the record, I am unbiased to Love and Monsters. It exists. That is all. Fear Her too.*
 

Quick

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I liked Love and Monsters...until the monster reveal and Elton's relationship with a slab, but that bit was hilarious. Sort of a wink to the parents, while the kids remain oblivious.

And I just got to see Doctor Who in America, where it's a whole one hour special on the various trips he makes to the US. Tennant and Barrowman were on it talking about the early days of them filming. Manhattan being a sound stage and an empty field and lake for New Earth. We've come a long way from the crew having to stay in Wales to doing actual location shoots in NY and Spain.
 

isny

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Also, yes, I noticed that plaque. Was that in the Tardis? Or in the guys collection room? I didn't watch close enough or rewind.

TARDIS

"Just a moment, final checks" says the Doctor from behind the TARDIS console to Amy

He then bends down to look in a mirrored object and checks himself out while styling his hair. Doctor then winks and straightens his bowtie. Camera then pans away to reveal the plaque.

TARDIS door opens and Doctor steps out
 
Man, you people are crazy. That episode is a fucking trainwreck. The only time the Doctor appears is to do a Scooby-Doo chase with an actually cool-looking monster (thank fuck he showed up again in The Pandorica Opens), and to save the day at the end out of nowhere. I know the point is to follow some regular Joes and how the Doctor comes into their life, but yeah, Blink did that much better. The Adventures of Marc Warren's Worst Performance and the Time Lord Circlejerk Club, not so much.

Also, fuck Peter Kay. Phoenix Nights doesn't mean you can do whatever you want.
 

maharg

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D:

I expected and hoped that the Doctor would swear eternal punishment to that damn Weeping Angel. I suspect they will revisit this this, erm, time(?) again. They never really explained how the timeline became so unstable in the first place, did they?

From people looping back and forth around the Quay building.
 

The Real Abed

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TARDIS

"Just a moment, final checks" says the Doctor from behind the TARDIS console to Amy

He then bends down to look in a mirrored object and checks himself out while styling his hair. Doctor then winks and straightens his bowtie. Camera then pans away to reveal the plaque.

TARDIS door opens and Doctor steps out
If it's part of the console, it can mean anything. Since the current console/control room is pretty much made up of random shit you'd find at a yard sale. (And my favorite of the two "New" versions we've seen thus far.)
 

The Technomancer

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If it's part of the console, it can mean anything. Since the current console/control room is pretty much made up of random shit you'd find at a yard sale. (And my favorite of the two "New" versions we've seen thus far.)

I do really like the idea (don't know where it came from) that the current TARDIS console is so eclectic and junky because it was so damaged in the Time War that he had to rebuild it out of whatever he could find.
 

The Technomancer

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Because it's poorly written, with a bad overall storyline that seems solely designed to revolve around "Hey, London got the Olympics!", among other issues

I may have to rewatch it. I don't remember it being that much more badly written then say...Night Terrors
 

The Real Abed

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I do really like the idea (don't know where it came from) that the current TARDIS console is so eclectic and junky because it was so damaged in the Time War that he had to rebuild it out of whatever he could find.
Yeah but the TARDIS has hundreds of control rooms in storage that it can change between. Makes you wonder where this one came from. Though it is interesting to think it was made up of stuff collected from throughout time. I'd love to take a tour of that one really. Every time I see it I notice new goofy shit. It's like an Appleby's or a TGIFridays or a... Ground Round?
 

Quick

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I thought it was a nice touch when Amy called for Melody, and being the last person she holds before going back to Rory.
 

zychi

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just watched.

moffat you magnificent bastard. so now the wait is until xmas, when does the second half of the season start? feb?
 

hamchan

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Everyone acted so well in that graveyard scene. I especially liked Smith, he was so desperate for Amy to not go.

Oh man, the Doctor should keep wearing Amy's glasses whenever he wants to read something now ;_;
 

The Technomancer

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Everyone acted so well in that graveyard scene. I especially liked Smith, he was so desperate for Amy to not go.

Oh man, the Doctor should keep wearing Amy's glasses whenever he wants to read something now ;_;

Once Rory was gone then the graveyard scene was good, but it felt really jarring going from them diving off the building to relief to all of the sudden out of nowhere another angel because godamnit we have to find some way to get them trapped in the past and we've written ourselves into a corner.
 

DrForester

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Once Rory was gone then the graveyard scene was good, but it felt really jarring going from them diving off the building to relief to all of the sudden out of nowhere another angel because godamnit we have to find some way to get them trapped in the past and we've written ourselves into a corner.

Yeah, them getting trapped should have been tied into the paradox, and destroying the Angels. That or have done the fake-out ending much earlier, and not 2 minutes before the real ending.
 

ag-my001

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1) So nice to see the Angels back in form. The cherubs were freaky evil, and I'm surprised no one here has made a gif of that smiling angel. Pure nightmare fuel.

2) Great to see the camera return as an Angel-episode character. Plenty of scenes where the Angels should have been moving but weren't, building up the tension for the POV switch you knew was coming.

3) A satisfactory ending. No need to save the universe as one last send-off, though there was an attempt at a sacrifice with the roof jump. I also really liked the jump back to Amelia waiting. It helps to explain her obsession with the raggedy doctor, while giving some needed comfort to the Doctor, who probably thought he'd never see young Amelia again.
 

WanderingWind

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Love and Monsters is a good idea. Just...not...a good execution. Blink did the same concept much better.

I remember when you guys were warning me about that episode. No amount of forewarning could prepare a soul for Moaning myrtle as a piece of sidewalk giving an ugly git blowjobs
 

Trike

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Well that was depressing. Karen Gillian has said on record that she won't return to the show because it would make the ending have less of an impact.

Also what the hell that was a slideshow, not a preview for the Christmas special. Wonder if they are going to do something big. The main villain is the guy who played the 9th Doctor in Scream of the Shalka.
 

The Real Abed

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It's not British TV, it's Who under Moffat. We used to get the full 13 episodes without breaks
Well, this is the first season we've had this. Also, remember we also didn't have a real final Tennant season. It was made up of 5 separate holiday specials.

I'm talking about British TV as a whole. Many shows are 6, 8 or 12/13 episodes at most per season. Sherlock is only 3 per season. The Office had 6 episodes for two seasons and two Christmas episodes. Be glad we'll eventually get the rest of this 13 episode season.
 
I really like that the Weeping Angels are back to being creepy and conniving. That two-parter really shit all over the Angels what with the neck breaking and being able to actually see them move.

Speaking of Weeping Angels, did the Doctor and River take care of that last Angel, or is it still just rolling around in that graveyard zapping people? People keep bringing up the Statue of Liberty, but I thought that was a bigger question mark.

Anyway, I really enjoyed the episode, but I think I would have liked it more if I hadn't known that the Ponds Williamses were leaving. I wish they could have kept it under wraps, but I'm sure that's extremely difficult. Would have made Rory getting ganked all the more shocking, though.

The question that loomed over the current series is whether the Doctor could let them go. Felt wrong for that decision to be made by Amy not the Doctor.

He clearly couldn't.
 

The Technomancer

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Hopefully The Doctor doesn't treat the new companion like shit like Ten did with Martha.

Ten was all kinds of messed up emotionally, one of the...appeals? I guess of that interpretation of the character. 9 was angry, 10 was melodramatic and mopey, 11 has control and ego issues.

The dynamic I want out of Oswin is a combination of the best parts of River and Donna.
 

Effect

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Weeping Angels seem like they could get very close to the hatred level the Doctor has reserved for the Dalaks. They keeping pulling some serious crap around him and there seems no to fight them. At what point I wonder does he simply say enough and tries to wipe them out.

I hope this isn't the very last we see of the Amy and Rory but I get a feeling it might if they're already signed to do other projects.

Edit:

In the end I enjoyed watching Rory more then Amy. His entire arc was a more satisfying. Similar to how I preferred Mickey over Rose but I like Amy a LOT more then I ever liked Rose.
 

hamchan

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Oh that's right, the scene of child Amy looking up and smiling as she hears the TARDIS coming back is originally from The Eleventh Hour. Crazy that they managed to tie that back in.
 

maharg

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I hope not. That will ruin the impact of this exit. It works because it's tragic.

I like that it's both tragic and allows Amy and Rory to go on living their lives. I'd have actually preferred a less tragic end in which they genuinely choose their life without the Doctor, but if it's gotta be tragic I'm glad that it was still, to some extent, a matter of choice and that they didn't die.
 

Diablos54

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Karen Gillan won't come back to do it for that exact reason.
Thank god. The only time we need to see Amy again is when Eleven regenerates, and even then it should only be Little Amelia. Otherwise we start heading into Rose territory, where she got everything she wanted in the end and a nice little bow on top.
 

The Technomancer

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Pre Moffat Dr. Who really doesn't begin to come close to how good the Moffat era is.

I said it.

Depends on your metric for "better". In general I think I find most of the Moffat run to be less interesting then the RTD era, which is part of why I really like this season so far.
 
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