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[Shuggananas]

next week is more likely tbh

 

[Monochromaticx]

maybe we will never get 6.85

 

[kionedrik]

pierce magic immunity

That's a bit too much.

Is there any non-ulti magic damage spell that pierces bkb? can't think of any on the top of my head.

 

[Monochromaticx]

That's a bit too much.

Is there any non-ulti magic damage spell that pierces bkb? can't think of any on the top of my head.

clinkz flaming arrows and techies land mines (i think), OD's orb is pure not magic

 

[Shuggananas]

Pudge hook ? Sun Strike ? Midnight Pulse ?

^ physical

 

[M.D]

this game may not have forced 50% but there's some weird shit going on with the match making in this game

2 days ago i lost 4 games in a row, then yesterday 2 games in a row someone on the enemy team abandons the game

an hour ago i played a match where we were supposed to lose but pulled it together at the end, largely thx to the enemy clinkz disconnecting for a long period of time and the match after that i had 2 people on my team feeding and leaving pre 10 minutes

 

[Shuggananas]

this game may not have forced 50% but there's some weird shit going on with the match making in this game

2 days ago i lost 4 games in a row, then yesterday 2 games in a row someone on the enemy team abandons the game

an hour ago i played a match where we were supposed to lose but pulled it together at the end, largely thx to the enemy clinkz disconnecting for a long period of time and the match after that i had 2 people on my team feeding and leaving pre 10 minutes

lots of fuckin idiots playing the game

 

[kionedrik]

clinkz flaming arrows and techies land mines (i think), OD's orb is pure not magic

I'm 100% sure flaming arrows and mines are physical

I'm 99% sure orb is magic.


edit: went to liquidpedia and you're right. orb is pure which means it's silly that bkb blocks it. it would also make sense if you cast it on ancients and catapults.

 

[M.D]

lots of fuckin idiots playing the game

dunno man, i looked a few days back and its the same pattern - i had a match where the enemy had someone abandon, then the next match i had 3 of my teammates abandon pre 10 minutes as well

funny thing, both games the team with the abandon team mates won

IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE

I'm 100% sure flaming arrows and mines are physical

I'm 99% sure orb is magic.

fake edit: went to liquidpedia and you're right. orb is pure which means it's silly that bkb blocks it.

i'm pretty sure searing arrows adds 10000 range to clinkz arrows, can someone fucking that shit

 

[jew]

Searing arrows doesnt add range. If arcane orb pierced bkb od would be first pick every game.

 

[shira]

http://zippy.gfycat.com/ImperfectPleasedBarracuda.webm

Can't wait for the doto watch

 

[Hazaro]

I'm 100% sure flaming arrows and mines are physical

I'm 99% sure orb is magic.


edit: went to liquidpedia and you're right. orb is pure which means it's silly that bkb blocks it. it would also make sense if you cast it on ancients and catapults.

Did people forget that OD is cancer that quickly?

 

[Shuggananas]

He's strong in lane but that's it
Ult is pathetic

 

[Monochromaticx]

Did people forget that OD is cancer that quickly?

I have a soft spot for OD

He's strong in lane but that's it
Ult is pathetic

and the aghs change made the ulti even more sheit.

 

[Red UFO]

I don't know what they were thinking with OD's aghs, it literally just fucks up your team fight.

 

[Acinixys]

How do you make your steam messages pop up infront of the game window in reborn?

I get the message sound but the message doesnt pop to the front like it did in Source 1

I have to alt tab or bring up the steam overlay

 

[Hazaro]

I have a soft spot for OD

and the aghs change made the ulti even more sheit.

I don't know what they were thinking with OD's aghs, it literally just fucks up your team fight.

What, you use it to isolate targets

 

[Cyborgmatt]

Ban if no 6.85 tomorrow?

I've been playing more Elite than Dota for like the last week or so. Elite is so good.

Space is cool.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

I had more fun with 6.84 than 6.83 because Lesh, Gyro and so forth aren't as OP as Troll/Sniper and also somewhat underpicked. Sniper approached something like 45% pickrate or something at some point last patch. Troll was up there as well.

However, the viable hero pool has gotten unprecedentedly small and pro game drafts are predictable as fuck.

 

[Shuggananas]

I'd say 6.85 will be a 3 days update with teasing for new stuff too, so I expect an announcement friday and 3 days next week with release on next thursday or something like that
Or the week after.

 

[NBtoaster]

I doubt 6.85 will come before the bugs and missing features of reborn are ironed out. I give it at least 2 weeks.

 

[LiQuid!]

Valve seems pretty selective about when they'll listen to an uproar and respond to it, but I really hope some of this UI redesign shit catches on and leads to change. They've essentially hidden almost every functionality feature of the Dota 2 client behind extra mouse clicks and advertisements.

 

[kionedrik]

and the aghs change made the ulti even more sheit.

Look at it like Naga sleep. It's a great isolation tool against bkb carrying cores since most supports won't buy it.

I doubt 6.85 will come before the bugs and missing features of reborn are ironed out. I give it at least 2 weeks.

I have the same feeling.

 

[Shuggananas]

People don't clump up vs OD in the first place

 

[Pratfall]

Valve seems pretty selective about when they'll listen to an uproar and respond to it, but I really hope some of this UI redesign shit catches on and leads to change. They've essentially hidden almost every functionality feature of the Dota 2 client behind extra mouse clicks and advertisements.

they just gotta display the friends list all the time and expand/clean up the chat window, otherwise its whatever, they gotta make their money somehow.

 

[Satch]

i am addicted to the epic boss fight custom game

 

[M.D]

first time in my life the entire team listens to me for some reason

 

[kionedrik]

Best cosplay yet:

 

[1.09]

warm blood feels good

 

[rakkadakka]

They've essentially hidden almost every functionality feature of the Dota 2 client behind extra mouse clicks and advertisements.

The two things that bug me are the friends list being hidden and looking at store sets every time you go the armory.

 

[twobear]

warm blood feels good

!!!

stan

 

[Deleted member 325805]

This has been happening to my DOTA and Steam for a few weeks now. I think it might be because I have a non steam game on a separate drive that freezes things when the drive leaves sleep for whatever reason. I'll remove the shortcut and see if things change. My netgraph probably looks the same

I reset my router & modem, and went from the old client to Reborn and it's much better, it still happens but very rarely now, instead of almost constantly. No idea how to fix it fully though, oh and I also changed my cmdrate, updaterate and rate to max instead of default, so that may have helped.

 

[ScOULaris]

Not sure how many of you play Custom Games in the new client, but I made this thread for relevant discussion on the matter:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1109969

 

[Gully State]

Last night, I came to the painful revelation that I have no idea how to deal with techies. I was playing WD support and my mind just drew a complete blank while I was systematically murdered.

What I did
-tp'd immediately to safe lane with all my items bought- prevented him from warding our area/jungle near the safe lane (about the only thing I did right).
-bought sentries- tried to deward his mines. Unfortunately I'd either not spot them with sentries or if I did, they'd get dewarded.
-still walked into his mine traps.
-my teammates still walked into them as well
-Suicided me with invis rune a couple of times.
-The thought of running into a mine just made me think twice to walk around anywhere, thus preventing me from warding properly.
-spent the rest of the game turtled up.
-bought a gem eventually but since I was getting two shot, I left it at home base for someone else to carry

 

[M.D]

Last night, I came to the painful revelation that I have no idea how to deal with techies. I was playing WD support and my mind just drew a complete blank while I was systematically murdered.

What I did
-tp'd immediately to safe lane with all my items bought- prevented him from warding our area/jungle near the safe lane (about the only thing I did right).
-bought sentries- tried to deward his mines. Unfortunately I'd either not spot them with sentries or if I did, they'd get dewarded.
-still walked into his mine traps.
-my teammates still walked into them as well
-Suicided me with invis rune a couple of times.
-The thought of running into a mine just made me think twice to walk around anywhere, thus preventing me from warding properly.
-spent the rest of the game turtled up.
-bought a gem eventually but since I was getting two shot, I left it at home base for someone else to carry

you know what you do against techies? you abandon the fucking game

 

[Gully State]

you know what you do against techies? you abandon the fucking game

Believe you me, I thought about it at one point. I had a faceless void accuse me of free farming.

 

[kionedrik]

how i deal with techies:

- keep vision of him and/or where he's mining
- let him waste his time, mana and pots
- buy sentries and kill all his shit

 

[G.ZZZ]

I think i'm about to get banned again boys (posted in a race thread), i salute you all here guys! Have fun with this shitty game.

 

[twobear]

pick illusion heroes/manta style

 

[bbd23]

pick storm and get orchid.

 

[SecretMoblin]

smh gzzzzzzzz

yeah obs wards are as important vs t*chies as sentries; also x-ping the fuck outta your team even if they fume at you for it

not much you can do if you're a solo support and void is accusing you of "free-farming", though lol

 

[Shuggananas]

I think i'm about to get banned again boys (posted in a race thread), i salute you all here guys! Have fun with this shitty game.

OT is a minefield today

 

[Gully State]

pick illusion heroes/manta style

pick storm and get orchid.

smh gzzzzzzzz

yeah obs wards are as important vs t*chies as sentries; also x-ping the fuck outta your team even if they fume at you for it

not much you can do if you're a solo support and void is accusing you of "free-farming", though lol

I wish I could pick storm. Team locked in their shit pretty fast (FV safelane, Kunkka mid, LC jungle, axe offlane). I had a game where I was told to picked storm and the BH refused to give me mid and went BF last night. I should really stand my ground a bit more in solo queue.

I've got the unenviable task of looking through replays of 4 losses before I play again. I really hope going through my games will pay off. I'm tired of not improving.

 

[SilentRacoon]

how i deal with techies:

- keep vision of him and/or where he's mining
- let him waste his time, mana and pots
- buy sentries and kill all his shit

All of this, plus try to get a necro book whenever possible, will make pushing high ground look like a stairway to heaven.

 

[Gully State]

All of this, plus try to get a necro book whenever possible, will make pushing high ground look like a stairway to heaven.

I used buy necro book a ton.. I completely forgot about this item. That's a good solution for late game.

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

Necro 3 isn't a realistic option for supports to get, usually your team needs you to buy cheaper support items like Glimmer, Force, etc, not to mention wards and such. Don't forget it costs 5200 gold before you even get true sight. It's only a decent option vs Techies if you're playing a hero that already likes getting necro like Invoker and BM.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

I had more fun with 6.84 than 6.83 because Lesh, Gyro and so forth aren't as OP as Troll/Sniper and also somewhat underpicked. Sniper approached something like 45% pickrate or something at some point last patch. Troll was up there as well.

However, the viable hero pool has gotten unprecedentedly small and pro game drafts are predictable as fuck.

Yea, I think that last sentence is what it boils down to. The hero pool of viable picks is undeniably larger than it's ever been. But whether it's just a matter of comfort picks, built-in utility or balance issues, the same 15 or so heroes are permanently picked/banned. The water has again separated from the fat and what we're left with is not as enjoyable as hoped. I guess in the end you just hope that whatever that meta we're left with in the end is enjoyable to you. For me it sort of hasn't been, but for others I'm sure they've been having the time of their lives. In a game with more than 100 heroes, seeing real diversity and enough balance to make everyone potentially pickable remains an elusive task for all MOBAs. And FOTM picks will always become quickly tiring.

 

[GregLombardi]

Yea, I think that last sentence is what it boils down to. The hero pool of viable picks is undeniably larger than it's ever been. But whether it's just a matter of comfort picks, built-in utility or balance issues, the same 15 or so heroes are permanently picked/banned. The water has again separated from the fat and what we're left with is not as enjoyable as hoped. I guess in the end you just hope that whatever that meta we're left with in the end is enjoyable to you. For me it sort of hasn't been, but for others I'm sure they've been having the time of their lives. In a game with more than 100 heroes, seeing real diversity and enough balance to make everyone potentially pickable remains an elusive task for all MOBAs. And FOTM picks will always become quickly tiring.

I still say the easy solution to this is to make abilities a range of unpredictable damage en masse, especially for played heroes or something. It is a really tough problem though.

I'm still surprised that Dota 10 v 10 is more fun than Dota.

 

[Satch]

10v10 is better than regular dota cuz theres no accountability

 

[SecretMoblin]

also more fun than dota: boss mode custom game, league of legends, the state of kentucky