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We've got us a new team for ADL season 2: North American Rejects

Theeban "1437" Siva
Braxton "Brax" Paulson
Allan "Dismek" Garcia
Ioannis "Fogged" Loucas
Steven "Korok" Ashworth
JingJun "Sneyking" Wu

http://www.joindota.com/en/news/17345-na-rejects-1437,-brax-and-sneyking

Do you even lift?

Fly been playing well, a shame about those last 10 minutes.

I think the issue with fnatic recently is that they've been going for some high risk team compositions against comparatively safer lineups. It feels as though their execution must be at a very high level every skirmish or teamfight for the lineup to pay off.

Dogma drafted and laned this game perfectly though, they made the right calls.

 

[Acinixys]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBxx4WerRBI
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Doesn't quite capture the realism since it lacks the ambient sounds of children crying and soccer matches on the tv going on in the background.

top kek

 

[FACE]

Admiralbulldog: I believe in the rat

The rat god has spoken.

 

[bbd23]

I did it boys

LOL

 

[ksan]

this dog vs fnatic game is weird as hell, so many team fights leading to nothing
still pretty fun to watch

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Pajkatt's naga isn't exploiting the hero as much as he should.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Pajkatt's naga isn't exploiting the hero as much as he should.

he's being pretty irritating.

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

The rat is strong with Dogma today.

So many sleep/TP bails.

 

[FACE]

I'd trade TB and Ember nerfs for Naga Siren being removed from the game.

 

[aeolist]

ugh naga

 

[Satch]

ive been trying to perfect my ember play


once i get as comfortable as possible should i switch to windrunner

looking for fast paced high impact heroes here

 

[Haly]

Nightstalker.

 

[SteveWinwood]

Puck.

 

[Satch]

stop steven im terrible at puck


i have been practicing nightstalker in bots a little bit here and there though. i might pick him up

 

[ksan]

Nightstalker.

Yeah, I actually think NS is overall one of the better heroes to play to learn to balance farm and ganking as a mid, as it pretty much forces you to do that Not to mention that it's a really fun hero to play.

Otherwise TA is another one, but she is way harder to play really effectively, as you need to make the gank/farm decisions yourself. She's way more farm heavy and also harder to play.

 

[Procarbine]

Pajkatt's naga isn't exploiting the hero as much as he should.

Yeah the way he won the game for his team was really underwhelming.

 

[Haly]

Slardar is also very proactive.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

I feel sorry for Fnatic but there's some structural problems in their team.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Yeah the way he won the game for his team was really underwhelming.

Do you usually answer questions no one has asked?

 

[ksan]

Yeah the way he won the game for his team was really underwhelming.

The thing is that he'd probably get really flamed if they lost.
I think it's really cool to see players deciding to play other ways than the "optimal way" (according to other pros), and make it work. Even bulba said, somehwere in the middle of the game, that he thought that pajkatt played naga a worse way than rtz does, but after the game my impression was that they had a pretty good game plan.

 

[G.ZZZ]

Do you usually answer questions no one has asked?

Do every one of your post read like you think you're smart?

 

[Quesa]

Do you usually answer questions no one has asked?

Do every one of your post read like you think you're smart?

fightfightfight

 

[Madouu]

sums it up

Adrian Kryeziu ‏@EraDota 8 min
notsurewatdo

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

I'm sorry I finished secondary school with a B in Food Technology.

 

[aeolist]

it is a constant surprise to me that people still respond to heavy's sandvich

 

[Wok]

I cannot carry anymore. It is just too much. Spectre needs a buff such as a decreased cooldown on his ultimate spell.

http://dotabuff.com/matches/605205058

I had a weird bug too, as if auto-attack was totally off: I start attacking a creep and once it is dead, I have to click on another creep to continue.

 

[KingKong]

Empire vs C9 should be good, I believe Empire needs to win to have a chance but so does C9

 

[SteveWinwood]

it is a constant surprise to me that people still respond to heavy's sandvich

in the years ive been here the one time i ever used my ignore list

its all just nonsense

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

I said it at the time when Naga hadn't even finished her manta, something both LD and Bulba commented on about having those items by 25 minutes rather than 32.

You could see the fact Pajkatt didn't really split her illusions up, something Loda and RTZ do every time they play.

But because I wrote it, it's controversial/something to belittle. That makes sense.

 

[shira]

Empire vs C9 should be good, I believe Empire needs to win to have a chance but so does C9

wud be funny if c9 stomp empire and starladder was all going just according to keikaku

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Have the eastern teams played already? Does anyone have a list of who they might be?

 

[Dreams-Visions]

I cannot carry anymore. It is just too much. Spectre needs a buff such as a decreased cooldown on his ultimate spell.

http://dotabuff.com/matches/605205058

I had a weird bug too, as if auto-attack was totally off: I start attacking a creep and once it is dead, I have to click on another creep to continue.

No, what you needed was a Radiance. You can't expect to keep up with Drow or Void in CS without a radiance.

The burn damage alone would have fucked up their entire team, as none of them got any tank items at all. Also, was your Pugna feeding? 21 deaths is a lot of deaths. Just a bkb and dagon 1 after an hour? Pugna clears waves with ease. What happened there?

Lastly, if Omni or Pug get a sheep, drow can't sit back and steal her life back. No sheep against a core of 3 or 4 carries = an eventual loss most of the time. Other team had 0 bkb's.

 

[rezuth]

I cannot carry anymore. It is just too much. Spectre needs a buff such as a decreased cooldown on his ultimate spell.

http://dotabuff.com/matches/605205058

I had a weird bug too, as if auto-attack was totally off: I start attacking a creep and once it is dead, I have to click on another creep to continue.

Should have gone abyssal and radiance.

 

[FACE]

Have the eastern teams played already? Does anyone have a list of who they might be?

http://www.joindota.com/en/coverages/6837-wpc-2014

 

[SamVimes]

Well there's the obvious problem of carry omni with radiance.

 

[aeolist]

Should have gone abyssal and radiance.

or manta and radiance

either way that daedalus wasn't the best pickup and the vanguard should have been sold to make room for something else

 

[ksan]

No, what you needed was a Radiance. You can't expect to keep up with Drow or Void in CS without a radiance.

The burn damage alone would have fucked up their entire team, as none of them got any tank items at all. Also, was your Pugna feeding? 21 deaths is a lot of deaths. Just a bkb and dagon 1 after an hour? Pugna clears waves with ease. What happened there?

Lastly, if Omni or Pug get a sheep, drow can't sit back and steal her life back. No sheep against a core of 3 or 4 carries = an eventual loss most of the time. Other team had 0 bkb's.

Should have gone abyssal and radiance.

I don't think the problem is item build here, but rather the lack of farm.

I'm wondering how long that game was.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

http://www.joindota.com/en/coverages/6837-wpc-2014

Thank you.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

I don't think the problem is item build here, but rather the lack of farm.

Yes, but Radiance directly affects his ability to farm quickly, which I was alluding to. Spectre doesn't keep up with superfarmers like Drow or Void (had he bought a BF) or other hard carries without a Radiance assuming both have equal time farm safely.

Also, Wok has never built rad on Spectre ever. and has only won once with the hero. More practice and experience is in order here.

I'm wondering how long that game was.

over an hour. 64 minutes, to be exact.

 

[rezuth]

I don't think the problem is item build here, but rather the lack of farm.

I'm wondering how long that game was.

The lack of farm is due to item build

Game was about an hour from what dotabuff says, either way they needed to get the void killed fast.

 

[FACE]

C9 x Empire on.

 

[Calidor]

I cannot carry anymore. It is just too much. Spectre needs a buff such as a decreased cooldown on his ultimate spell.

http://dotabuff.com/matches/605205058

I had a weird bug too, as if auto-attack was totally off: I start attacking a creep and once it is dead, I have to click on another creep to continue.

I'm sorry but the only correct answer here is refresher radiance specter

 

[Haly]

You guys had no team work, that was the problem.

 

[ksan]

Yes, but Radiance directly affects his ability to farm quickly, which I was alluding to. Spectre doesn't keep up with superfarmers like Drow or Void (had he bought a BF) or other hard carries without a Radiance assuming both have equal time farm safely.

Also, Wok has never built rad on Spectre ever. and has only won once with the hero. More practice and experience is in order here.

over an hour. 64 minutes, to be exact.

Well, I don't think that starting to build radiance is gonna help if he's never gonna get it, if he has just over 400 gpm with 30+ kills, it sounds like the early game farm was quite bad.
I think vanguard/diff might be a reasonable choice, and next time the focus should be on improving early farming instead.

But I definitely agree that radiance is the best possible item for spectre.

Spoiler

why am I arguing for pillow's item build instead of mine?

I'm sorry but the only correct answer here is refresher radiance specter

I thought quadruple e-blade, diff 2, and refresher was the optimal item build...

 

[rezuth]

Well, I don't think that starting to build radiance is gonna help if he's never gonna get it, if he has just over 400 gpm with 30+ kills, it sounds like the early game farm was quite bad.
I think vanguard/diff might be a reasonable choice, and next time the focus should be on improving early farming instead.

But I definitely agree that radiance is the best possible item for spectre.

Spoiler

why am I arguing for pillow's item build instead of mine?

I thought quadruple e-blade, diff 2, and refresher was the optimal item build...

He either goes late game or mid game build, he does not do this random build.

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

EE Wraith King vs. Empire.

 

[ksan]

He either goes late game or mid game build, he does not do this random build.

That's actually a pretty legit ultra late game build against some matchups, with the exception of the vanguard.
Doesn't seem to be the right game for that though.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Can you midas invoker's fire creep thing?

 

[Razzer]

Can you midas invoker's fire creep thing?

Think so yah.

 

[aeolist]

ahahaha that death on envy

can't even blame him for it but that was hilarious